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Postby Risottia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:14 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:That's ridiculous. France barely has a history beyond brutality and conquest, as most European powers do.

The sheer ignorance implied by this statement is awesome.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:16 pm

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Saiwania wrote:National Rally and Marine Le Pen is what France most needs to return to its former splendor. The height of French history in my eyes, was under Napoleon.

That's ridiculous. France barely has a history beyond brutality and conquest, as most European powers do. I mean no ill will towards the French, but their history is one of oppression. Arguably, they were worse than much of Europe, with their bloody revolution.


Most of Europe doesn't have a history? What the actual fuck kind of dishonesty is this?
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:40 pm

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Greater Malegron wrote:Okay, I’ll give you the invade and pillage. But they still didn’t proclaim the natives as inferior. And I don’t know about the rapes...

I'm legitimately curious about how you think the Nahuas became the dominant ethnicity in Mexico and Central America.

Again, they didn’t engage in the same sort of racism colonial powers did.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:42 pm

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The Restored Danelaw wrote:I'm legitimately curious about how you think the Nahuas became the dominant ethnicity in Mexico and Central America.

Again, they didn’t engage in the same sort of racism colonial powers did.


Nah they just killed or enslaved everyone in the nations they attacked. So much better
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Postby Kathol Rift » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:45 pm

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The Restored Danelaw wrote:I'm legitimately curious about how you think the Nahuas became the dominant ethnicity in Mexico and Central America.

Again, they didn’t engage in the same sort of racism colonial powers did.

I’m curious, have you ever heard of the relationship between the Bantu and the Bushman people? Because the Bantu definitely engaged in the same sort of racism the colonial powers did there.
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Postby Albionist Great Britain » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:45 pm

I think we’re going a bit off-topic and entering threadjack territory - if we’re not already there.

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Postby Ors Might » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:46 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
The Restored Danelaw wrote:I'm legitimately curious about how you think the Nahuas became the dominant ethnicity in Mexico and Central America.

Again, they didn’t engage in the same sort of racism colonial powers did.

So it’s not as bad because they didn’t try to justify their brutality with racial prejudice?
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:47 pm

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Greater Malegron wrote:Again, they didn’t engage in the same sort of racism colonial powers did.

So it’s not as bad because they didn’t try to justify their brutality with racial prejudice?

Yes, actually? Does intent not matter?

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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:48 pm

Albionist Great Britain wrote:I think we’re going a bit off-topic and entering threadjack territory - if we’re not already there.

Yeah, we are. I’ll leave, since it seems my presence isn’t helping.
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:49 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Ors Might wrote:So it’s not as bad because they didn’t try to justify their brutality with racial prejudice?

Yes, actually? Does intent not matter?

Not in regards to pillaging, murdering, and raping? Like, what difference does it make to those being brutalized that it isn’t because of their skin color?
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:05 pm

Get back to talking about the attack described in the OP, please.

On further consideration, we'll just leave this locked. Pretty much everything that can be said has been said, which is why the thread went skittering off into the weeds.
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Postby Loben III » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:30 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
The Restored Danelaw wrote:I'm legitimately curious about how you think the Nahuas became the dominant ethnicity in Mexico and Central America.

Again, they didn’t engage in the same sort of racism colonial powers did.


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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:33 pm

Farnhamia wrote:Get back to talking about the attack described in the OP, please.

On further consideration, we'll just leave this locked. Pretty much everything that can be said has been said, which is why the thread went skittering off into the weeds.


I think you may have accidently unlocked it. I'll treat it as locked now though and stop posting after this.

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Postby The Marlborough » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:48 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
The Restored Danelaw wrote:I'm legitimately curious about how you think the Nahuas became the dominant ethnicity in Mexico and Central America.

Again, they didn’t engage in the same sort of racism colonial powers did.

They were ethnocentric however, viewing themselves as above those they conquered.
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Postby Aureumterra III » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:55 pm

To bring this back on topic, let’s say hypothetically, even if everything Greater Malegron says is true and France has no history except rape, pillage, colonialism, and genocide, how does that justify the beheading of Samul Paty in particular?
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Postby Albionist Great Britain » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:08 pm

Aureumterra III wrote:To bring this back on topic, let’s say hypothetically, even if everything Greater Malegron says is true and France has no history except rape, pillage, colonialism, and genocide, how does that justify the beheading of Samul Paty in particular?


It doesn’t. In my opinion, nothing justifies it. France’s history is irrelevant to the fact a man was murdered.

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Postby Andsed » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:08 pm

Aureumterra III wrote:To bring this back on topic, let’s say hypothetically, even if everything Greater Malegron says is true and France has no history except rape, pillage, colonialism, and genocide, how does that justify the beheading of Samul Paty in particular?

It doesn’t and I don't think anyone aside from a few very extreme radicals are trying to say this was in any justifiable.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:54 pm

There is rumor that the killer took video footage of the killing he did. It might not exist anymore, however. It was shared on Telegram amongst some online Jihadist cliques. I theorize that if the media got a hold of it and broadcast it for all of France to see, that perhaps there will be enough support for the platform of Marine Le Pen for the National Rally to take over. This could be the smoking gun France's far right has been looking for.

We have to get Macron and similar politicians out, before France can truly take steps to resolve its internal problems. The 5 million Muslims statistic is problematic from my perspective, I don't believe it should've been allowed to happen. There weren't no 5 million Muslims in France before 1939. I won't stand for the trend continuing. There is an opportunity going forward to ensure France becomes French again.
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:01 pm

Saiwania wrote:There is rumor that the killer took video footage of the killing he did. It might not exist anymore, however. It was shared on Telegram amongst some online Jihadist cliques. I theorize that if the media got a hold of it and broadcast it for all of France to see, that perhaps there will be enough support for the platform of Marine Le Pen for the National Rally to take over. This could be the smoking gun France's far right has been looking for.

We have to get Macron and similar politicians out, before France can truly take steps to resolve its internal problems. The 5 million Muslims statistic is problematic from my perspective, I don't believe it should've been allowed to happen. There weren't no 5 million Muslims in France before 1939. I won't stand for the trend continuing. There is an opportunity going forward to ensure France becomes French again.


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Saiwania wrote:There is rumor that the killer took video footage of the killing he did. It might not exist anymore, however. It was shared on Telegram amongst some online Jihadist cliques. I theorize that if the media got a hold of it and broadcast it for all of France to see, that perhaps there will be enough support for the platform of Marine Le Pen for the National Rally to take over. This could be the smoking gun France's far right has been looking for.

We have to get Macron and similar politicians out, before France can truly take steps to resolve its internal problems. The 5 million Muslims statistic is problematic from my perspective, I don't believe it should've been allowed to happen. There weren't no 5 million Muslims in France before 1939. I won't stand for the trend continuing. There is an opportunity going forward to ensure France becomes French again.

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Postby New haven america » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:02 pm

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Greater Malegron wrote:That's ridiculous. France barely has a history beyond brutality and conquest, as most European powers do.

The sheer ignorance implied by this statement is awesome.

I mean, the reason why Europe is such the powerhouse it is today is because of it's raping and pillaging of literally the entire world for resources due to Europe being pretty resource poor in general.

So no, they're not too far off.
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Postby American Micronesia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:05 pm

New haven america wrote:
Risottia wrote:The sheer ignorance implied by this statement is awesome.

I mean, the reason why Europe is such the powerhouse it is today is because of it's raping and pillaging of literally the entire world for resources due to Europe being pretty resource poor in general.

So no, they're not too far off.

... I mean, the only way I could possible reply to this is "OK American" and move on.

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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:06 pm

Saiwania wrote:There is rumor that the killer took video footage of the killing he did. It might not exist anymore, however. It was shared on Telegram amongst some online Jihadist cliques. I theorize that if the media got a hold of it and broadcast it for all of France to see, that perhaps there will be enough support for the platform of Marine Le Pen for the National Rally to take over. This could be the smoking gun France's far right has been looking for.

We have to get Macron and similar politicians out, before France can truly take steps to resolve its internal problems. The 5 million Muslims statistic is problematic from my perspective, I don't believe it should've been allowed to happen. There weren't no 5 million Muslims in France before 1939. I won't stand for the trend continuing. There is an opportunity going forward to ensure France becomes French again.


I wonder what the Muslims IN mainland France who hid Jews in their mosques and the Muslims who fought in the Free French army (they made up MOST of the army of Free France), as well as the Maghrebi Muslim camp guards who flatout refused to carry out Nazi and Vichy French orders against Jews, and the Imams who were part of the French resistance and forged passports for Jews that said they were Muslim, and the Imams who issued fatwas not to comply with Vichy French and Nazi orders to capture Jews would all think about your “Ensure France becomes French again” idea. In fact, it reminds me of a crazy Austrian man with a silly moustache that the people I talked about above opposed and what he suggested and implemented.
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Postby Picairn » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:07 pm

New haven america wrote:I mean, the reason why Europe is such the powerhouse it is today is because of it's raping and pillaging of literally the entire world for resources due to Europe being pretty resource poor in general.

So no, they're not too far off.

Actually, the reason they are rich today is because of the Marshall Plan and the subsequent economic recovery, not colonialism as by that time, it was no longer profitable and on the way to extinction.

All the wealth Europe gained from colonialism was destroyed in WW2.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:10 pm

American Micronesia wrote:
New haven america wrote:I mean, the reason why Europe is such the powerhouse it is today is because of it's raping and pillaging of literally the entire world for resources due to Europe being pretty resource poor in general.

So no, they're not too far off.

... I mean, the only way I could possible reply to this is "OK American" and move on.

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New haven america wrote:I mean, the reason why Europe is such the powerhouse it is today is because of it's raping and pillaging of literally the entire world for resources due to Europe being pretty resource poor in general.

So no, they're not too far off.

Actually, the reason they are rich today is because of the Marshall Plan and the subsequent economic recovery, not colonialism as by that time, it was no longer profitable and on the way to extinction.

All the wealth Europe gained from colonialism was destroyed in WW2.

Compounded by the fact Europe has one of the best geography for trade, with it's bountiful rivers and inland seas.
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