2020 French Terrorist Beheadings and Attacks Thread

[The Huskar Social Union]

Any group being funded by Turkey should be banned or forced to give up their funding from Turkey. This should also apply to Mosques and also to anything with ties to Iran and the Saudis.

[Fahran]

France will ban the Grey Wolves organisation (a Turkish ultranationalist organisation of Turkish emigrants who are nationalist about Turkey...) next week.


https://twitter.com/LCP/status/1323265147503259648

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54787028

The group is also set to be banned in the Netherlands. Among incoming bans in France is the ban on the Islam Council of France, the largest representation of Muslims in the country, but funded by the Turkish government.

They honestly should have been banned ages ago.

[Albrenia]

The Collective against Islamophobia, a group with a stated aim of "tackling institutionalised islamophobia in France" will also be banned next week. The government says it is primarily encouraging terrorism.

https://twitter.com/ccif

https://twitter.com/LCP/status/1323265147503259648

Don't know enough about the group to comment if this is right or wrong, but if they really are encouraging terrorism instead of protecting people's rights, then fuck 'em.

[New Steuben]

Any group being funded by Turkey should be banned or forced to give up their funding from Turkey. This should also apply to Mosques and also to anything with ties to Iran and the Saudis.

This would be fair and common sense strategy

[New Steuben]

France will ban the Grey Wolves organisation (a Turkish ultranationalist organisation of Turkish emigrants who are nationalist about Turkey...) next week.


https://twitter.com/LCP/status/1323265147503259648

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54787028

The group is also set to be banned in the Netherlands. Among incoming bans in France is the ban on the Islam Council of France, the largest representation of Muslims in the country, but funded by the Turkish government.

They honestly should have been banned ages ago.

That's what confusing why were the Grey Wolves ALLOWED but not Neo-Nazis?

[Albrenia]

They honestly should have been banned ages ago.

That's what confusing why were the Grey Wolves ALLOWED but not Neo-Nazis?

Incompetence probably.

[New Steuben]

That's what confusing why were the Grey Wolves ALLOWED but not Neo-Nazis?

Incompetence probably.

meh, your probably right

[Insaanistan]

Not really. Unlike how speaking English correctly (Aka, “talking white”) doesn’t make me not really black (despite what most black people tell me), the Qur’ân forbids doing this stuff, so you’re literally no longer a Muslim.

My, what a laughably bigoted and borderline racist statement this was. You really should check that victim complex, as it's going to get you into hot water at some point in life from the looks of it.

How is this borderline racist in any way?

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

The Collective against Islamophobia, a group with a stated aim of "tackling institutionalised islamophobia in France" will also be banned next week. The government says it is primarily encouraging terrorism.

https://twitter.com/ccif

https://twitter.com/LCP/status/1323265147503259648

Don't know enough about the group to comment if this is right or wrong, but if they really are encouraging terrorism instead of protecting people's rights, then fuck 'em.

I don't know either but CCIF retweeted this:

https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1 ... 3510048769

Basically CCIF/the tweet thinks that inclusion of French Muslims killed by the French government in the name of anti-terrorism is a form of islamophobia, so...

[Chan Island]

Any group being funded by Turkey should be banned or forced to give up their funding from Turkey. This should also apply to Mosques and also to anything with ties to Iran and the Saudis.

Yup. Enough is enough. We shouldn't keep allowing these autocracies to fund hate that kills our own people. It does not make sense.

The Collective against Islamophobia, a group with a stated aim of "tackling institutionalised islamophobia in France" will also be banned next week. The government says it is primarily encouraging terrorism.

https://twitter.com/ccif

https://twitter.com/LCP/status/1323265147503259648

Looks like Europe isn't going to play nice anymore.

Good. Enough is enough.

[Insaanistan]

They honestly should have been banned ages ago.

That's what confusing why were the Grey Wolves ALLOWED but not Neo-Nazis?

Uh, a Neo-Nazi just got shot by police while he threatened a North African business with his knife

[New Steuben]

Don't know enough about the group to comment if this is right or wrong, but if they really are encouraging terrorism instead of protecting people's rights, then fuck 'em.

I don't know either but CCIF retweeted this:

https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1 ... 3510048769

Basically CCIF/the tweet thinks that inclusion of French Muslims killed by the French government in the name of anti-terrorism is a form of islamophobia, so...

LOL wat?

yeah, fuck em

[New Steuben]

That's what confusing why were the Grey Wolves ALLOWED but not Neo-Nazis?

Uh, a Neo-Nazi just got shot by police while he threatened a North African business with his knife

that has nothing to do with what I said

[Insaanistan]

Don't know enough about the group to comment if this is right or wrong, but if they really are encouraging terrorism instead of protecting people's rights, then fuck 'em.

I don't know either but CCIF retweeted this:

https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1 ... 3510048769

Basically CCIF/the tweet thinks that inclusion of French Muslims killed by the French government in the name of anti-terrorism is a form of islamophobia, so...

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

They honestly should have been banned ages ago.

That's what confusing why were the Grey Wolves ALLOWED but not Neo-Nazis?

Probably lack of interest in the group, considering it is fairly new.

The Grey Wolves only emerged as a concept in late 1960s. It's taken a while for it to go off and capture the minds of millions of Turks.

[Insaanistan]

Uh, a Neo-Nazi just got shot by police while he threatened a North African business with his knife

that has nothing to do with what I said

You said Neo-Nazis aren’t allowed.

Unless of course the group the dude belonged to was illegal, but nothing I saw said that.

[New Steuben]

that has nothing to do with what I said

You said Neo-Nazis aren’t allowed.

Unless of course the group the dude belonged to was illegal, but nothing I saw said that.

no what i'm saying is, in euro nations the Grey Wolves(an obvious neo-fascist group) are ALLOWED yet Neo-Nazis are routinely gone after.

[Insaanistan]

You said Neo-Nazis aren’t allowed.

Unless of course the group the dude belonged to was illegal, but nothing I saw said that.

no what i'm saying is, in euro nations the Grey Wolves(an obvious neo-fascist group) are ALLOWED yet Neo-Nazis are routinely gone after.

Ooooooohhhh.
Please be more specific next time.

[Albrenia]

Don't know enough about the group to comment if this is right or wrong, but if they really are encouraging terrorism instead of protecting people's rights, then fuck 'em.

I don't know either but CCIF retweeted this:

https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1 ... 3510048769

Basically CCIF/the tweet thinks that inclusion of French Muslims killed by the French government in the name of anti-terrorism is a form of islamophobia, so...

In that case, I support the decision to yeet them in with the other terrorist supporters.

[Fahran]

Also I hate the use of the term "Islamic Terror", when there is a terrorist attack conducted by a Muslim its automatically deemed "Islamic". If thats the case then why isn't any good action done by a Muslim considered Islamic or associated with the religion.

It's called Islamic or Islamist terrorism when the motivation behind the attack is to advance the political and religious objectives in keeping with an Islamist paradigm in much the same way that white supremacist terrorism or anarchist terrorism encompasses attacks intended to advance those ideologies. I would consider Islamic think tanks and charity to represent the other side of the coin because they're doing good specifically in the name of Islam or Islamism.

For example when Muhammad Ali passed away, all the headlines were "American Hero" not "Islamic Hero".

Because he was an American sports hero who happened to be a Muslim.

And this also goes for the term "Moderate Muslim". Why do we have to be categorized as "moderates" as if we aren't following our religion completely and if we were to follow Islam fully then we would some how become extremists. A peace-loving and progressive lifestyle is completely compatible with being strictly adherent to the religion.

I'm not certain you can be a social progressive and strictly adhere to any Abrahamic religion. A lot of the policies that exist in the Dar as-Salaam and that we've already discussed are not socially progressive in a way that speaks to liberal values. Which is fine in my book. But I have no idea how anyone reconciles liberalism with religion beyond compartmentalizing or rejecting substantial parts of modern society as degenerate or immoral.

Terrorism is terrorism there is no such thing as Islamic Terrorism. One may argue that the terrorists are referring to Islamic texts to execute their agenda but at the same time people are blind towards the fact that the majority of Muslims who are living peacefully and who are constantly condemming these extremists also follow examples set by these same Islamic texts.

Most white supremacists, nationalists, and communists never commit terrorism either. Most Jews don't. Yet I'd still consider Kahane's boys to be Jewish terrorists.

[New Steuben]

IF the Grey Wolves etc are banned Erdogen is going to double down, but fuck that guy anyways.

[Insaanistan]

I don't know either but CCIF retweeted this:

https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1 ... 3510048769

Basically CCIF/the tweet thinks that inclusion of French Muslims killed by the French government in the name of anti-terrorism is a form of islamophobia, so...

In that case, I support the decision to yeet them in with the other terrorist supporters.

Agreed. Can we just yeet ALL terrorists.

[Fahran]

IF the Grey Wolves etc are banned Erdogen is going to double down, but fuck that guy anyways.

Erdogan trolling the EU provides an endless source of amusement, as much as I dislike Erdogan. Neoliberal economic policies and our dependence of global trade have made it next to impossible to confront Turkey, Russia, or China without substantial impacts to our economic prosperity and our populations have grown so soft and pampered that, in many cases, we're unwilling to ever take a stand when it makes the price of oil or manufactured goods spike.

[New Steuben]

IF the Grey Wolves etc are banned Erdogen is going to double down, but fuck that guy anyways.

Erdogan trolling the EU provides an endless source of amusement, as much as I dislike Erdogan. Neoliberal economic policies and our dependence of global trade have made it next to impossible to confront Turkey, Russia, or China without substantial impacts to our economic prosperity and our populations have grown so soft and pampered that, in many cases, we're unwilling to ever take a stand when it makes the price of oil or manufactured goods spike.

^ This

and it's scary

[-Astoria-]

According recent developments the supposed "Islamic" terrorist attacks in Avignon and Lyon last week were not conducted by Muslims at all. The attacker in Avignon was a far-right white supremecist who even did the Nazi Salute, he was taking advantage of the situation and was yelling "Allahu Akbar" and the French media was quick to report the "Allahu Akbar" part but no one is talking about how he was a Nazi sympathizer. In Lyon the motive was personal as the attacker was a Priest who already had legal trouble with another Priest of the Orthodox Church and the French media falsely stated that he chanted "Allahu Akbar" when attacking. No one is talking about these false reports which simply add fuel to the fire.

Shh! That spoils the narrative!