2020 French Terrorist Beheadings and Attacks Thread

[Arshanid Deccan]

According recent developments the supposed "Islamic" terrorist attacks in Avignon and Lyon last week were not conducted by Muslims at all. The attacker in Avignon was a far-right white supremecist who even did the Nazi Salute, he was taking advantage of the situation and was yelling "Allahu Akbar" and the French media was quick to report the "Allahu Akbar" part but no one is talking about how he was a Nazi sympathizer. In Lyon the motive was personal as the attacker was a Priest who already had legal trouble with another Priest of the Orthodox Church and the French media falsely stated that he chanted "Allahu Akbar" when attacking. No one is talking about these false reports which simply add fuel to the fire.

[Insaanistan]

I feel okay, and I specifically should be good. The most people have ever done was tell me to go back to where I came from (which is... America) or call me a terrorist or say I’m going to hell. Some people today actually came to me with questions about Islam. I’ll just make extra sure my phone is shut off during class so it doesn’t go “Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!” in the middle of class and freak everyone out.

Well that is good. Though I will say it is still kind of weird to have that as your ringtone in general.

It’s not my ringtone. You know how we have to pray five times a day? There are apps that play the call to prayer at prayer time for us.

[Insaanistan]

According recent developments the supposed "Islamic" terrorist attacks in Avignon and Lyon last week were not conducted by Muslims at all. The attacker in Avignon was a far-right white supremecist who even did the Nazi Salute, he was taking advantage of the situation and was yelling "Allahu Akbar" and the French media was quick to report the "Allahu Akbar" part but no one is talking about how he was a Nazi sympathizer. In Lyon the motive was personal as the attacker was a Priest who already had legal trouble with another Priest of the Orthodox Church and the French media falsely stated that he chanted "Allahu Akbar" when attacking. No one is talking about these false reports which simply add fuel to the fire.

I believe I and Rojava chatted about it for a bit.

[The Marlborough]

Well that is good. Though I will say it is still kind of weird to have that as your ringtone in general.

It’s not my ringtone. You know how we have to pray five times a day? There are apps that play the call to prayer at prayer time for us.

Ah sorry, misunderstood.

[Diarcesia]

According recent developments the supposed "Islamic" terrorist attacks in Avignon and Lyon last week were not conducted by Muslims at all. The attacker in Avignon was a far-right white supremecist who even did the Nazi Salute, he was taking advantage of the situation and was yelling "Allahu Akbar" and the French media was quick to report the "Allahu Akbar" part but no one is talking about how he was a Nazi sympathizer. In Lyon the motive was personal as the attacker was a Priest who already had legal trouble with another Priest of the Orthodox Church and the French media falsely stated that he chanted "Allahu Akbar" when attacking. No one is talking about these false reports which simply add fuel to the fire.

Illustrates my point that Nazis can make their attacks and the world will still look at the Muslims when one of their number does it.

[New Steuben]

According recent developments the supposed "Islamic" terrorist attacks in Avignon and Lyon last week were not conducted by Muslims at all. The attacker in Avignon was a far-right white supremecist who even did the Nazi Salute, he was taking advantage of the situation and was yelling "Allahu Akbar" and the French media was quick to report the "Allahu Akbar" part but no one is talking about how he was a Nazi sympathizer. In Lyon the motive was personal as the attacker was a Priest who already had legal trouble with another Priest of the Orthodox Church and the French media falsely stated that he chanted "Allahu Akbar" when attacking. No one is talking about these false reports which simply add fuel to the fire.

Illustrates my point that Nazis can make their attacks and the world will still look at the Muslims when one of their number does it.

Well, I think it's because recently Islamic terror has taken the fore front

Paris had what 180 dead?, Nice had 85 with the car attack, and now these string of attacks, Turkey and other nations rhetoric of support etc etc

It's a combination.

[Albrenia]

According recent developments the supposed "Islamic" terrorist attacks in Avignon and Lyon last week were not conducted by Muslims at all. The attacker in Avignon was a far-right white supremecist who even did the Nazi Salute, he was taking advantage of the situation and was yelling "Allahu Akbar" and the French media was quick to report the "Allahu Akbar" part but no one is talking about how he was a Nazi sympathizer. In Lyon the motive was personal as the attacker was a Priest who already had legal trouble with another Priest of the Orthodox Church and the French media falsely stated that he chanted "Allahu Akbar" when attacking. No one is talking about these false reports which simply add fuel to the fire.

Illustrates my point that Nazis can make their attacks and the world will still look at the Muslims when one of their number does it.

Which works in all of the Bad Guys favour.

Islamist nutcases get fresh recruits from the backlash on Muslim communities, alt-right loons get recruits from the controversy.

[New Steuben]

Illustrates my point that Nazis can make their attacks and the world will still look at the Muslims when one of their number does it.

Which works in all of the Bad Guys favour.

Islamist nutcases get fresh recruits from the backlash on Muslim communities, alt-right loons get recruits from the controversy.

well yeah they both fuel eachother

[Diarcesia]

Illustrates my point that Nazis can make their attacks and the world will still look at the Muslims when one of their number does it.

Well, I think it's because recently Islamic terror has taken the fore front

Paris had what 180 dead?, Nice had 85 with the car attack, and now these string of attacks, Turkey and other nations rhetoric of support etc etc

It's a combination.

And yet it's the far-right attacks that actually does the more damage

Though I get that the Islamists get more casualties per attack. Your points are fair.

[New Steuben]

Well, I think it's because recently Islamic terror has taken the fore front

Paris had what 180 dead?, Nice had 85 with the car attack, and now these string of attacks, Turkey and other nations rhetoric of support etc etc

It's a combination.

And yet it's the far-right attacks that actually does the more damage

Though I get that the Islamists get more casualties per attack. Your points are fair.

the Far-right usually does more damage because militarism is a part of being far right(I would even call myself far-right of some flavor so I admit this that militarism is part of it) this usually results in better combat training and motivation

the Islamics use fanatcism as a powerful method of attack, and sacrafice(bombings) to kill more people.

[The Huskar Social Union]

According recent developments the supposed "Islamic" terrorist attacks in Avignon and Lyon last week were not conducted by Muslims at all. The attacker in Avignon was a far-right white supremecist who even did the Nazi Salute, he was taking advantage of the situation and was yelling "Allahu Akbar" and the French media was quick to report the "Allahu Akbar" part but no one is talking about how he was a Nazi sympathizer. In Lyon the motive was personal as the attacker was a Priest who already had legal trouble with another Priest of the Orthodox Church and the French media falsely stated that he chanted "Allahu Akbar" when attacking. No one is talking about these false reports which simply add fuel to the fire.

I believe I and Rojava chatted about it for a bit.

I mentioned I had seen a mention of it on twitter that the police suspected the attacker in Avignon was from a far right group called Generation Identity i think it was.

[Albrenia]

Which works in all of the Bad Guys favour.

Islamist nutcases get fresh recruits from the backlash on Muslim communities, alt-right loons get recruits from the controversy.

well yeah they both fuel eachother

It's basically an ideological flanking attack. We're the poor bastards in the middle.

[Insaanistan]

Fun fact: Suicide is a HIGE sin in Islam.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Fun fact: Suicide is a HIGE sin in Islam.

I doubt Islamists are worried about that. Seeing themselves as Martyrs for their god and all that.

[New Steuben]

Fun fact: Suicide is a HIGE sin in Islam.

Not if it is carried out in "Jihad" and martydom.

[The Marlborough]

Well, I think it's because recently Islamic terror has taken the fore front

Paris had what 180 dead?, Nice had 85 with the car attack, and now these string of attacks, Turkey and other nations rhetoric of support etc etc

It's a combination.

And yet it's the far-right attacks that actually does the more damage

Though I get that the Islamists get more casualties per attack. Your points are fair.

And all people are going to care about is the number of casualties. If one ideology carries out two attacks per year killing 200 people in total vs a group who carries out 20 attacks for 10 deaths, the group carrying out the fewer but far deadlier attacks will be seen as a greater threat.

It's also worth taking into account demographic perceptions as well. If such deadly attacks originates from a group that say makes up 3% of the population compared to one that makes up say 90% of the population.

[New Steuben]

And yet it's the far-right attacks that actually does the more damage

Though I get that the Islamists get more casualties per attack. Your points are fair.

And all people are going to care about is the number of casualties. If one ideology carries out two attacks per year killing 200 people in total vs a group who carries out 20 attacks for 10 deaths, the group carrying out the fewer but far deadlier attacks will be seen as a greater threat.

It's also worth taking into account demographic perceptions as well. If such deadly attacks originates from a group that say makes up 3% of the population compared to one that makes up say 90% of the population.

THIS ^

for being a such a small segment of the population, their sure are a lot of attacks.

[Insaanistan]

Fun fact: Suicide is a HIGE sin in Islam.

Not if it is carried out in "Jihad" and martydom.

Islam makes it clear martyrdom for the wrong reasons will send you to hell.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Fun fact: Suicide is a HIGE sin in Islam.

Should have told that to all the suicide bombers that came before instead of us.

[The Marlborough]

Fun fact: Suicide is a HIGE sin in Islam.

Not if it is carried out in "Jihad" and martydom.

Actually that is a recent development and had to have a bunch of pro-terrorism clerics sanction it for their groups.

[New Steuben]

Not if it is carried out in "Jihad" and martydom.

Islam makes it clear martyrdom for the wrong reasons will send you to hell.

"makes it clear"

uhhhhhh

"looks at the middle east, africa and pakistan"

[Arshanid Deccan]

Also I hate the use of the term "Islamic Terror", when there is a terrorist attack conducted by a Muslim its automatically deemed "Islamic". If thats the case then why isn't any good action done by a Muslim considered Islamic or associated with the religion. For example when Muhammad Ali passed away, all the headlines were "American Hero" not "Islamic Hero". And this also goes for the term "Moderate Muslim". Why do we have to be categorized as "moderates" as if we aren't following our religion completely and if we were to follow Islam fully then we would some how become extremists. A peace-loving and progressive lifestyle is completely compatible with being strictly adherent to the religion. Terrorism is terrorism there is no such thing as Islamic Terrorism. One may argue that the terrorists are referring to Islamic texts to execute their agenda but at the same time people are blind towards the fact that the majority of Muslims who are living peacefully and who are constantly condemming these extremists also follow examples set by these same Islamic texts.

[New Steuben]

Also I hate the use of the term "Islamic Terror", when there is a terrorist attack conducted by a Muslim its automatically deemed "Islamic". If thats the case then why isn't any good action done by a Muslim considered Islamic or associated with the religion. For example when Muhammad Ali passed away, all the headlines were "American Hero" not "Islamic Hero". And this also goes for the term "Moderate Muslim". Why do we have to be categorized as "moderates" as if we aren't following our religion completely and if we were to follow Islam fully then we would some how become extremists. A peace-loving and progressive lifestyle is completely compatible with being strictly adherent to the religion. Terrorism is terrorism there is no such thing as Islamic Terrorism. One may argue that the terrorists are referring to Islamic texts to execute their agenda but at the same time people are blind towards the fact that the majority of Muslims who are living peacefully and who are constantly condemming these extremists also follow examples set by these same Islamic texts.

welcome to political nicknaming, it effects everyone.

[Insaanistan]

Islam makes it clear martyrdom for the wrong reasons will send you to hell.

"makes it clear"

uhhhhhh

"looks at the middle east, africa and pakistan"

You seem not to realize terrorists either do not know or do not give a crap about what Islam actually says.

[Insaanistan]

Also I hate the use of the term "Islamic Terror", when there is a terrorist attack conducted by a Muslim its automatically deemed "Islamic". If thats the case then why isn't any good action done by a Muslim considered Islamic or associated with the religion. For example when Muhammad Ali passed away, all the headlines were "American Hero" not "Islamic Hero". And this also goes for the term "Moderate Muslim". Why do we have to be categorized as "moderates" as if we aren't following our religion completely and if we were to follow Islam fully then we would some how become extremists. A peace-loving and progressive lifestyle is completely compatible with being strictly adherent to the religion. Terrorism is terrorism there is no such thing as Islamic Terrorism. One may argue that the terrorists are referring to Islamic texts to execute their agenda but at the same time people are blind towards the fact that the majority of Muslims who are living peacefully and who are constantly condemming these extremists also follow examples set by these same Islamic texts.

This.