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Postby New Steuben » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:26 pm

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the stigma exists because of Islamic attacks, remember Paris back in like 16? and Nice? Hundreds died

Should the stigma be reinforced or not?


If Islamic preachers keep getting away with radicalizing youth and these terror attacks keep happening, it's a justified stigma.

Not saying it's what we should be looking for, but it simply is.
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Postby New Steuben » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:27 pm

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the stigma exists because of Islamic attacks, remember Paris back in like 16? and Nice? Hundreds died


That doesn't change anything about what I said. The moderates are the best hope for driving Islamist extremism out - unless you find atrocity a desirable outcome.


and what are the chances that's successfull? They have had decades

Not atrocity, but deporations sure and a much more hardline approach to islamic radical preaching.
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Postby The Marlborough » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:28 pm

Insaanistan wrote:Judging by the fact most people at school ignores me or stared at me suspiciously, I’m guessing there’s gonna be backlash against Muslims in general here.

Let us hope and pray that does not happen and that you remain safe. If you do feel unsafe, make sure people at your school know so they can help.
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:28 pm

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Albrenia wrote:
That doesn't change anything about what I said. The moderates are the best hope for driving Islamist extremism out - unless you find atrocity a desirable outcome.


and what are the chances that's successfull? They have had decades

Not atrocity, but deporations sure and a much more hardline approach to islamic radical preaching.

Deporting radical preachers and attackers who survive is a no-brainer.

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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:28 pm

Diarcesia wrote:Islamists have two short-term goals in mind

One: Exact punishment for perceived slights
Two: Bait outsiders to punishing innocents so they can say, "See? They hate you!"


Yup.
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Postby New Steuben » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:30 pm

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and what are the chances that's successfull? They have had decades

Not atrocity, but deporations sure and a much more hardline approach to islamic radical preaching.

Deporting radical preachers and attackers who survive is a no-brainer.


Is it a no brainer? they sure seem to have a problem letting them in.
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:31 pm

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Diarcesia wrote:Deporting radical preachers and attackers who survive is a no-brainer.


Is it a no brainer? they sure seem to have a problem letting them in.

I dunno if you're insinuating all of them are radical.

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Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:31 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
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and what are the chances that's successfull? They have had decades

Not atrocity, but deporations sure and a much more hardline approach to islamic radical preaching.

Deporting radical preachers and attackers who survive is a no-brainer.


Radical preachers should most certainly go. If there's any place hate speech laws could prove useful for once, it's with this.

Attackers deserve to rot in the most forgotten hole in prison, so the only reason I'd be against deporting them is you don't know if they'd be released by their country of origin.

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Postby New Steuben » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:33 pm

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Is it a no brainer? they sure seem to have a problem letting them in.

I dunno if you're insinuating all of them are radical.


I'm insinuating that if it's such a "no brainer" then why are their so many attacks?

Clearly they are not doing a good job.
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:34 pm

It might be a good idea to remove "French" and merge the other thread with this.

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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:34 pm

The Marlborough wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Judging by the fact most people at school ignores me or stared at me suspiciously, I’m guessing there’s gonna be backlash against Muslims in general here.

Let us hope and pray that does not happen and that you remain safe. If you do feel unsafe, make sure people at your school know so they can help.


I feel okay, and I specifically should be good. The most people have ever done was tell me to go back to where I came from (which is... America) or call me a terrorist or say I’m going to hell. Some people today actually came to me with questions about Islam. I’ll just make extra sure my phone is shut off during class so it doesn’t go “Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!” in the middle of class and freak everyone out.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:34 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:I dunno if you're insinuating all of them are radical.


I'm insinuating that if it's such a "no brainer" then why are their so many attacks?

Clearly they are not doing a good job.

You can ask the same question of right wing politicians who encourage far right violence.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:36 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Let us hope and pray that does not happen and that you remain safe. If you do feel unsafe, make sure people at your school know so they can help.


I feel okay, and I specifically should be good. The most people have ever done was tell me to go back to where I came from (which is... America) or call me a terrorist or say I’m going to hell. Some people today actually came to me with questions about Islam. I’ll just make extra sure my phone is shut off during class so it doesn’t go “Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!” in the middle of class and freak everyone out.


I think people would freak out more if you started quoting the Mandalorian and started muttering "I will initiate self-destruct.."

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Postby New Steuben » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:36 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Let us hope and pray that does not happen and that you remain safe. If you do feel unsafe, make sure people at your school know so they can help.


I feel okay, and I specifically should be good. The most people have ever done was tell me to go back to where I came from (which is... America) or call me a terrorist or say I’m going to hell. Some people today actually came to me with questions about Islam. I’ll just make extra sure my phone is shut off during class so it doesn’t go “Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!” in the middle of class and freak everyone out.


your fine, your in America
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Postby The Marlborough » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:37 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Let us hope and pray that does not happen and that you remain safe. If you do feel unsafe, make sure people at your school know so they can help.


I feel okay, and I specifically should be good. The most people have ever done was tell me to go back to where I came from (which is... America) or call me a terrorist or say I’m going to hell. Some people today actually came to me with questions about Islam. I’ll just make extra sure my phone is shut off during class so it doesn’t go “Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!” in the middle of class and freak everyone out.

Well that is good. Though I will say it is still kind of weird to have that as your ringtone in general.
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:37 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
I feel okay, and I specifically should be good. The most people have ever done was tell me to go back to where I came from (which is... America) or call me a terrorist or say I’m going to hell. Some people today actually came to me with questions about Islam. I’ll just make extra sure my phone is shut off during class so it doesn’t go “Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!” in the middle of class and freak everyone out.


your fine, your in America

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Postby New Steuben » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:37 pm

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I'm insinuating that if it's such a "no brainer" then why are their so many attacks?

Clearly they are not doing a good job.

You can ask the same question of right wing politicians who encourage far right violence.


I could, but I wouldn't, since France and Austria are not currently experiencing a wave of Neo-Fascist attacks and beheadings.
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:38 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:
I feel okay, and I specifically should be good. The most people have ever done was tell me to go back to where I came from (which is... America) or call me a terrorist or say I’m going to hell. Some people today actually came to me with questions about Islam. I’ll just make extra sure my phone is shut off during class so it doesn’t go “Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!” in the middle of class and freak everyone out.


your fine, your in America


*squints*

Is this a self aware joke, or...?

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Postby Pan Evropa » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:39 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
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I'm insinuating that if it's such a "no brainer" then why are their so many attacks?

Clearly they are not doing a good job.

You can ask the same question of right wing politicians who encourage far right violence.

Far-right violence in Europe? The main problems are Separatists and then Islamists... the far-right are not a problem here according to europol
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:39 pm

Albrenia wrote:
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your fine, your in America


*squints*

Is this a self aware joke, or...?


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Postby New Steuben » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:39 pm

Albrenia wrote:
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your fine, your in America


*squints*

Is this a self aware joke, or...?


it's a statement of fact, contrary what people like to think, being a muslim isn't some horrific thing to be in America, sure their is some stigmas, but it's not like their are roaving bands of christians looking for muslims to lynch.
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Postby New Steuben » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:39 pm

Pan Evropa wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:You can ask the same question of right wing politicians who encourage far right violence.

Far-right violence in Europe? The main problems are Separatists and then Islamists... the far-right are not a problem here according to europol


I don't see why Euro nations don't list Islamic terror as right-wing terror.
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:40 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
*squints*

Is this a self aware joke, or...?


it's a statement of fact, contrary what people like to think, being a muslim isn't some horrific thing to be in America, sure their is some stigmas, but it's not like their are roaving bands of christians looking for muslims to lynch.

I just wanna chek and be sure we're talking about the same United States of America here.

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Postby Solomons Land » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:40 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
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and what are the chances that's successfull? They have had decades

Not atrocity, but deporations sure and a much more hardline approach to islamic radical preaching.

Deporting radical preachers and attackers who survive is a no-brainer.


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Postby New Steuben » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:40 pm

Cordel One wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
it's a statement of fact, contrary what people like to think, being a muslim isn't some horrific thing to be in America, sure their is some stigmas, but it's not like their are roaving bands of christians looking for muslims to lynch.

I just wanna chek and be sure we're talking about the same United States of America here.


we are, just beacuse your a radical leftist with a warped viewpoint of the USA dosn't change this fact.
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