2020 French Terrorist Beheadings and Attacks Thread

[New Steuben]

Unsurprising.

Are we really at a place in Western society where it's "unsurprising" that one ethnic group is essentially doing a pogrom of another ethnic group on Western soil?

fucked up man...fucked up...

[Insaanistan]

Do we also want to talk about how mobs of Turks and Azeris were roving the streets of Lyon "looking for Armenians"?

Dear God. Allah protect the Armenians.

[Insaanistan]

Do we also want to talk about how mobs of Turks and Azeris were roving the streets of Lyon "looking for Armenians"?

We can, and probably should, but outside of happening in the same general area, I don't think it has much to do with the Islamic attacks.

This is starting to feel like a war of the worlds, the Islamic world coming to terms with the Western world… and it’s not looking pretty so far

Like I said before, fighting against non-believers is a tenet of Islamic belief. They can't raise armies for it -nor do most Muslims want something like that- but one can't accept integration into Western Culture -with values utterly unlike that of Islam- to be done painlessly and nonviolently. Especially when the state does so little to do any integration. Seriously, most Muslims in France are 2nd-3rd generation away from being a migrant, they should have gotten used to their beliefs not being held sacrosanct or safe-from-touch by the general public by now.

For the last time, killling non-Muslims for their beliefs isn’t allowed.

[Salus Maior]

Do we also want to talk about how mobs of Turks and Azeris were roving the streets of Lyon "looking for Armenians"?

We can, and probably should, but outside of happening in the same general area, I don't think it has much to do with the Islamic attacks.

It might have something to do with the Greek Orthodox priest getting shot in the same city.

[Senkaku]

Ethnic mobs rampaging through the second city, terrorist murders nationwide, and a massive corona surge seem like solid criteria for declaring martial law or something, no? I mean, a decapitation here or there isn’t worth it, but it seems like they’re maybe at the point where someone needs to pump the brakes on that train

I disagree, every time an attack happens, Charlie Hebdo needs to publish a thousand more copies

So your proposal is to do nothing to stop the attacks but to just try and egg on more of them... because reasons?

I thought the rightist objection to jihadist attacks was that they were killing people and that that’s undesirable, not that they don’t happen enough

[The Horror Channel]

Breaking news: a French priest was brutally shot.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54763136

"Religion of peace" indeed.

[New Steuben]

I'm not for religious bands of people assaulting anyone, but honestly, Christians in Lyon need to get into lockstep and fucking Crush these Turkish/Azeri muslim mobs. They need to "deus vult" that ass before more people are hurt, this shit needs to be nipped in the butt immediatly.

[New Steuben]

I disagree, every time an attack happens, Charlie Hebdo needs to publish a thousand more copies

So your proposal is to do nothing to stop the attacks but to just try and egg on more of them... because reasons?

I thought the rightist objection to jihadist attacks was that they were killing people and that that’s undesirable, not that they don’t happen enough

uhhhh the idea is to bring out the extremists , you shouldn't have to live in fear of them wtf are you saying?

[Aureumterra III]

I'm not for religious bands of people assaulting anyone, but honestly, Christians in Lyon need to get into lockstep and fucking Crush these Turkish/Azeri muslim mobs. They need to "deus vult" that ass before more people are hurt, this shit needs to be nipped in the butt immediatly.

We don’t need vigilante violence, French law enforcement should do its thing, not Christian civilians

[Senkaku]

I'm not for religious bands of people assaulting anyone, but honestly, Christians in Lyon need to get into lockstep and fucking Crush these Turkish/Azeri muslim mobs. They need to "deus vult" that ass before more people are hurt, this shit needs to be nipped in the butt immediatly.

I’m pretty sure the French army is perfectly capable of handling the situation without anyone having to organize religious mobs into some sort of Crusade-larping even bigger pogrom attempt

[New Steuben]

I'm not for religious bands of people assaulting anyone, but honestly, Christians in Lyon need to get into lockstep and fucking Crush these Turkish/Azeri muslim mobs. They need to "deus vult" that ass before more people are hurt, this shit needs to be nipped in the butt immediatly.

We don’t need vigilante violence, French law enforcement should do its thing, not Christian civilians

then do their thing already shit

[Fahran]

Are we really at a place in Western society where it's "unsurprising" that one ethnic group is essentially doing a pogrom of another ethnic group on Western soil?

The Grey Wolves have been roughing up Kurdish activists in Germany so I can't really say I'm surprised to see the same sorts looking to terrorize Armenians and Greeks.

Also, the saying is "nipped in the bud" not "nipped in the butt."

[New Steuben]

I'm not for religious bands of people assaulting anyone, but honestly, Christians in Lyon need to get into lockstep and fucking Crush these Turkish/Azeri muslim mobs. They need to "deus vult" that ass before more people are hurt, this shit needs to be nipped in the butt immediatly.

I’m pretty sure the French army is perfectly capable of handling the situation without anyone having to organize religious mobs into some sort of Crusade-larping even bigger pogrom attempt

are they though? really?

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

I disagree, every time an attack happens, Charlie Hebdo needs to publish a thousand more copies

So your proposal is to do nothing to stop the attacks but to just try and egg on more of them... because reasons?

I thought the rightist objection to jihadist attacks was that they were killing people and that that’s undesirable, not that they don’t happen enough

That may be the rightist argument, yes. Not sure how that is relevant to me or my point, though

By giving in to the attacks, the West is showing that the value of secularism is compromiseable

[The Marlborough]

Unsurprising.

Are we really at a place in Western society where it's "unsurprising" that one ethnic group is essentially doing a pogrom of another ethnic group on Western soil?

Yes. I mean in southern California Latino gangs are engaged in a low intensity ethnic cleansing campaign against black Americans. The pure lains in Quebec will never cease until they have chased out everyone else.

[The Restored Danelaw]

I disagree, every time an attack happens, Charlie Hebdo needs to publish a thousand more copies

So your proposal is to do nothing to stop the attacks but to just try and egg on more of them... because reasons?

I thought the rightist objection to jihadist attacks was that they were killing people and that that’s undesirable, not that they don’t happen enough

Yeah, but the answer to "we're killing people because we can't act like normal people when our beliefs are insulted" isn't "ok, we'll stop doing what made you lash out". It's "get used to it." If Charlie Hebdo publishes another copy and a Muslim beheads someone, the person at fault is the Muslim -him and, admittedly, the upbringing that gave him the idea that beheading people for having his opinions insulted was even remotely close to acceptable.

[New Steuben]

Are we really at a place in Western society where it's "unsurprising" that one ethnic group is essentially doing a pogrom of another ethnic group on Western soil?

The Grey Wolves have been roughing up Kurdish activists in Germany so I can't really say I'm surprised to see the same sorts looking to terrorize Armenians and Greeks.

Also, the saying is "nipped in the bud" not "nipped in the butt."

https://youtu.be/W51By0ZuDck

grey wolves in Lyon

[Senkaku]

I’m pretty sure the French army is perfectly capable of handling the situation without anyone having to organize religious mobs into some sort of Crusade-larping even bigger pogrom attempt

are they though? really?

Yes, they’re one of the foremost military forces in the world and they’ve been used as gendarmes frequently over France’s modern history.

It seems to me you’re just looking for a reason for a different sort of pogrom to be initiated, and that your outrage rings a little false. Are all pogroms bad, or are some okay if they’re targeted at the “right” people?

[Insaanistan]

Breaking news: a French priest was brutally shot.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54763136

"Religion of peace" indeed.

Oh, please, Islam is a peaceful religion. If you think a group is violent because some claiming to follow its doctrine are, there’s a problem, my friend.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

I'm not for religious bands of people assaulting anyone, but honestly, Christians in Lyon need to get into lockstep and fucking Crush these Turkish/Azeri muslim mobs. They need to "deus vult" that ass before more people are hurt, this shit needs to be nipped in the butt immediatly.

No

[New Steuben]

are they though? really?

Yes, they’re one of the foremost military forces in the world and they’ve been used as gendarmes frequently over France’s modern history.

It seems to me you’re just looking for a reason for a different sort of pogrom to be initiated, and that your outrage rings a little false. Are all pogroms bad, or are some okay if they’re targeted at the “right” people?

no no no

their is "capable" and then their is "willing" these are two differen't things.

[Senkaku]

So your proposal is to do nothing to stop the attacks but to just try and egg on more of them... because reasons?

I thought the rightist objection to jihadist attacks was that they were killing people and that that’s undesirable, not that they don’t happen enough

That may be the rightist argument, yes. Not sure how that is relevant to me or my point, though

By giving in to the attacks, the West is showing that the value of secularism is compromiseable

I believe I proposed declaring martial law, to which you said “no, just publish more magazines,” so I’m not really sure how I’m the one being characterized as “giving in” and compromising secularism lmao

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

"Religion of peace" indeed.

Oh, please, Islam is a peaceful religion.

"Peaceful religion"

Alexa, what is an oxymoron?

[New Steuben]

the grey wolves in lyon really just point out that assimilation has failed, these people do not see themselves as French in any capacity, they are just Turkish with a passport.

[Insaanistan]

Oh, please, Islam is a peaceful religion.

"Peaceful religion"

Alexa, what is an oxymoron?

So are Athiests violent because there are Christian atheists?
Pick up a Qur’ân, man.