by Sundiata » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:12 pm
by Senkaku » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:14 pm
by Sundiata » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:17 pm
Senkaku wrote:It’s called the oldest profession for a reason. We might as well make it safe for the parties at both ends of the transaction (and for the rest of society) rather than driving it underground, because it clearly isn’t going anywhere.
by Punished UMN » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:17 pm
Senkaku wrote:It’s called the oldest profession for a reason. We might as well make it safe for the parties at both ends of the transaction (and for the rest of society) rather than driving it underground, because it clearly isn’t going anywhere.
by Geneviev » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:18 pm
by Sundiata » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:19 pm
Punished UMN wrote:Senkaku wrote:It’s called the oldest profession for a reason. We might as well make it safe for the parties at both ends of the transaction (and for the rest of society) rather than driving it underground, because it clearly isn’t going anywhere.
It wouldn't exist in an economically just society because there would be no niche for it to exist in.
by Senkaku » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:19 pm
Sundiata wrote:Senkaku wrote:It’s called the oldest profession for a reason. We might as well make it safe for the parties at both ends of the transaction (and for the rest of society) rather than driving it underground, because it clearly isn’t going anywhere.
I personally don't believe that it should be driven underground to the extent that it is criminalized, but I certainly do think it's immoral.
Punished UMN wrote:Senkaku wrote:It’s called the oldest profession for a reason. We might as well make it safe for the parties at both ends of the transaction (and for the rest of society) rather than driving it underground, because it clearly isn’t going anywhere.
It wouldn't exist in an economically just society because there would be no niche for it to exist in.
by Senkaku » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:20 pm
Geneviev wrote:It should be decriminalized just to protect the people involved. Morality is, to me, a separate issue that should come after protecting people.
by Sundiata » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:21 pm
Senkaku wrote:Geneviev wrote:It should be decriminalized just to protect the people involved. Morality is, to me, a separate issue that should come after protecting people.
It should be fully legalized, because the gray zone where it’s not illegal to sell but it’s still illegal to buy or whatever still leaves people unprotected and lets criminal elements get involved
by Katganistan » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:23 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:23 pm
by Geneviev » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:24 pm
Senkaku wrote:Geneviev wrote:It should be decriminalized just to protect the people involved. Morality is, to me, a separate issue that should come after protecting people.
It should be fully legalized, because the gray zone where it’s not illegal to sell but it’s still illegal to buy or whatever still leaves people unprotected and lets criminal elements get involved
by Punished UMN » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:25 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I'm personally against legalizing it because of the whole slew of issues that impact sex workers (worse mental health, generally lower quality of life etc etc) and the difficulties it raises in integrating those people into wider society. I have no academic sources on the latter but just from talking with current and former sex workers they pretty unanimously said it's difficult to hold friendships, relationships, form new careers etc etc.
Ideally we'd try and reach a point where people don't need to sell themselves to survive because that's capitalism distilled down to its most basic and disgusting form.
by Albrenia » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:25 pm
by Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:29 pm
by Purpelia » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:29 pm
by Kowani » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:30 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I'm personally against legalizing it because of the whole slew of issues that impact sex workers (worse mental health, generally lower quality of life etc etc) and the difficulties it raises in integrating those people into wider society. I have no academic sources on the latter but just from talking with current and former sex workers they pretty unanimously said it's difficult to hold friendships, relationships, form new careers etc etc.
Ideally we'd try and reach a point where people don't need to sell themselves to survive because that's capitalism distilled down to its most basic and disgusting form.
by Senkaku » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:31 pm
by Punished UMN » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:32 pm
Kowani wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:I'm personally against legalizing it because of the whole slew of issues that impact sex workers (worse mental health, generally lower quality of life etc etc) and the difficulties it raises in integrating those people into wider society. I have no academic sources on the latter but just from talking with current and former sex workers they pretty unanimously said it's difficult to hold friendships, relationships, form new careers etc etc.
Ideally we'd try and reach a point where people don't need to sell themselves to survive because that's capitalism distilled down to its most basic and disgusting form.
Wonder if the Christian position on sex and the influence of that onto greater societal moral standards have anything to do with that...
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by Senkaku » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:34 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I'm personally against legalizing it because of the whole slew of issues that impact sex workers (worse mental health, generally lower quality of life etc etc) and the difficulties it raises in integrating those people into wider society. I have no academic sources on the latter but just from talking with current and former sex workers they pretty unanimously said it's difficult to hold friendships, relationships, form new careers etc etc.
Ideally we'd try and reach a point where people don't need to sell themselves to survive because that's capitalism distilled down to its most basic and disgusting form.
by Andsed » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:34 pm
by Albrenia » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:36 pm
by Punished UMN » Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:36 pm
Senkaku wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:I'm personally against legalizing it because of the whole slew of issues that impact sex workers (worse mental health, generally lower quality of life etc etc) and the difficulties it raises in integrating those people into wider society. I have no academic sources on the latter but just from talking with current and former sex workers they pretty unanimously said it's difficult to hold friendships, relationships, form new careers etc etc.
Ideally we'd try and reach a point where people don't need to sell themselves to survive because that's capitalism distilled down to its most basic and disgusting form.
Lots of jobs impact people’s mental health and quality of life, and most jobs today are literally selling your body to survive. What do you think a Walgreens cashier or an Amazon warehouse worker or a hospital temperature checker is doing, if not selling use of their body for a period of time?
If sex work were legal and sex workers could safely conduct their business, live openly, and be assured of health and safety like most other wage laborers, perhaps the problems they face would be a bit less acute.
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