What did the Ancient Egyptians look like?

[Greed and Death]

You know how if you go around New York, you can see people that don't all look the same, because their ancestry is not all from the same place? I imagine you could do that in ancient Egypt too.

If you look at how the Egyptians depicted themselves in their artwork, they did not show everyone having the same skin color, and there is some variation in the facial features on their sculptures. Some Egyptian sculptures have an African look, but then others are more Mediterranean and you can see how they relate to Greek sculpture. And some are a little of both.

I think a lot of people would benefit from taking a nice long dive into art history, and just looking at how the Egyptians represented themselves.

And how do the portraits of Cleopatra portray her ?

[Albionist Great Britain]

Pretty sure genetic evidence shows they were very similar to Ancient Greeks and Ancient Anatolians.

Actually, weren’t indigenous Egyptians more unique and distinct all on their own, rather than being similar to Greeks and Anatolians? At least prior to Greek colonisation.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Pretty sure genetic evidence shows they were very similar to Ancient Greeks and Ancient Anatolians.

Actually, weren’t indigenous Egyptians more unique and distinct all on their own, rather than being similar to Greeks and Anatolians? At least prior to Greek colonisation.

Genetically they were close to levantines, and to a lesser extent southern europeans.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

It appears to mostly be with in a certain subsect of African Americans that make this mistake.

African Americans think everyone from Africa is black?

They think French Montana is black. Hes morrocan.

[Rhozeus]

Disagree: Greece hs had a significant admixture of Asian (Turkish/ Jewish/ Arabic) genes during the Ottoman empire. Back then, there were whole lot more blond and blonde-ish Greeks. Alexander the Great was blonde. Cleo's grandmother was blonde.

We should look for whatever colour the Macedonians USED TO BE 2000 YEARS AGO.

Southern europrans have always been dark due to the climate they live in. The nordic Greeks are a myth.

Nope: Most Indo-Europeans were blonde, blonde-ish, or even red-haired - and with blue or green eyes. It's only once they start marrying the indigenous southern Europeans (like the Pelasgians, in Greece) or other immigrants (Athens had a sizeable Phoenician bloodline) that they became brown-eyed and black-haired.

As mentioned before in this thread: Alexander the Great was blonde. The one colour picture we have of the man shows a dark blonde young man. The northern Dorians pictured themselves as blonde. Homer mentions fair-haired men (/heroes - pretty much the same to him). Cleopatra's grandmother was a blonde Greek woman.

Where does this need come from to dump all fair-haired people north of the Drava? It certainly isn't historically accurate!

[Rhozeus]

Actually, weren’t indigenous Egyptians more unique and distinct all on their own, rather than being similar to Greeks and Anatolians? At least prior to Greek colonisation.

Genetically they were close to levantines, and to a lesser extent southern europeans.

The ones in the Delta that is. The ones upstream were closer to the Ancient Berbers.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Southern europrans have always been dark due to the climate they live in. The nordic Greeks are a myth.

Nope: Most Indo-Europeans were blonde, blonde-ish, or even red-haired - and with blue or green eyes. It's only once they start marrying the indigenous southern Europeans (like the Pelasgians, in Greece) or other immigrants (Athens had a sizeable Phoenician bloodline) that they became brown-eyed and black-haired.

As mentioned before in this thread: Alexander the Great was blonde. The one colour picture we have of the man shows a dark blonde young man. The northern Dorians pictured themselves as blonde. Homer mentions fair-haired men (/heroes - pretty much the same to him). Cleopatra's grandmother was a blonde Greek woman.

Where does this need come from to dump all fair-haired people north of the Drava? It certainly isn't historically accurate!

I'm sure there were blonde Greeks. There still are blonde Greeks. Most however have always been brunette with olive skin.

If a painting of a blonde youth in ancient Greece means all Greeks were like that, ima assume Jotaro Kujo is a good representative of 17 year old Japanese boys in the late 1980s.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Genetically they were close to levantines, and to a lesser extent southern europeans.

The ones in the Delta that is. The ones upstream were closer to the Ancient Berbers.

Berbers themselves are close to southern europeans. The sahara for a long time was a major genetic barrier between the Mediterranean coast and the inner regions of Africa.

[Heloin]

You know how if you go around New York, you can see people that don't all look the same, because their ancestry is not all from the same place? I imagine you could do that in ancient Egypt too.

If you look at how the Egyptians depicted themselves in their artwork, they did not show everyone having the same skin color, and there is some variation in the facial features on their sculptures. Some Egyptian sculptures have an African look, but then others are more Mediterranean and you can see how they relate to Greek sculpture. And some are a little of both.

I think a lot of people would benefit from taking a nice long dive into art history, and just looking at how the Egyptians represented themselves.

And how do the portraits of Cleopatra portray her ?

[Rhozeus]

Nope: Most Indo-Europeans were blonde, blonde-ish, or even red-haired - and with blue or green eyes. It's only once they start marrying the indigenous southern Europeans (like the Pelasgians, in Greece) or other immigrants (Athens had a sizeable Phoenician bloodline) that they became brown-eyed and black-haired.

As mentioned before in this thread: Alexander the Great was blonde. The one colour picture we have of the man shows a dark blonde young man. The northern Dorians pictured themselves as blonde. Homer mentions fair-haired men (/heroes - pretty much the same to him). Cleopatra's grandmother was a blonde Greek woman.

Where does this need come from to dump all fair-haired people north of the Drava? It certainly isn't historically accurate!

I'm sure there were blonde Greeks. There still are blonde Greeks. Most however have always been brunette with olive skin.

If a painting of a blonde youth in ancient Greece means all Greeks were like that, ima assume Jotaro Kujo is a good representative of 17 year old Japanese boys.

Dude, if you move the goalposts any further, your strawman will drop off the horizon.

I never said "all Greeks". I said "northern Dorians" - you know, like Cleopatra's ancestors?

You on the other hand were describing her ancestors as "the myth of Nordic Greeks, who never existed".

[Rhozeus]

The ones in the Delta that is. The ones upstream were closer to the Ancient Berbers.

Berbers themselves are close to southern europeans. The sahara for a long time was a major genetic barrier between the Mediterranean coast and the inner regions of Africa.

Then let's conclude that we agree about the genes.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Various shades of brown i would imagine.

Though Cleopatra was of greek descent i think so probably a bit lighter maybe?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

And how do the portraits of Cleopatra portray her ?

Plot twist: Marc Antony drank too much liquor and is focusing on trying not to die

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Berbers themselves are close to southern europeans. The sahara for a long time was a major genetic barrier between the Mediterranean coast and the inner regions of Africa.

Then let's conclude that we agree about the genes.

So in conclusion, the ancient Egyptians looked like how Egyptians look now.

[Kowani]

Southern europrans have always been dark due to the climate they live in. The nordic Greeks are a myth.

Nope: Most Indo-Europeans were blonde, blonde-ish, or even red-haired - and with blue or green eyes. It's only once they start marrying the indigenous southern Europeans (like the Pelasgians, in Greece) or other immigrants (Athens had a sizeable Phoenician bloodline) that they became brown-eyed and black-haired.

As mentioned before in this thread: Alexander the Great was blonde. The one colour picture we have of the man shows a dark blonde young man. The northern Dorians pictured themselves as blonde. Homer mentions fair-haired men (/heroes - pretty much the same to him). Cleopatra's grandmother was a blonde Greek woman.

Where does this need come from to dump all fair-haired people north of the Drava? It certainly isn't historically accurate!

[Rhozeus]

Then let's conclude that we agree about the genes.

So in conclusion, the ancient Egyptians looked like how Egyptians look now.

Yes, but their dynasty looked like sun-tanned Czechs with afro-wigs.

[Hurdergaryp]

Plot twist: Marc Antony drank too much liquor and is focusing on trying not to die

The ancient world didn't have liquor, given how the distilling process hadn't been invented yet.

[Bear Stearns]

It appears to mostly be with in a certain subsect of African Americans that make this mistake.

African Americans think everyone from Africa is black?

yeah

[Heloin]

Plot twist: Marc Antony drank too much liquor and is focusing on trying not to die

The ancient world didn't have liquor, given how the distilling process hadn't been invented yet.

They had lots of wine so it all evens out.

[Albrenia]

Nope: Most Indo-Europeans were blonde, blonde-ish, or even red-haired - and with blue or green eyes. It's only once they start marrying the indigenous southern Europeans (like the Pelasgians, in Greece) or other immigrants (Athens had a sizeable Phoenician bloodline) that they became brown-eyed and black-haired.

As mentioned before in this thread: Alexander the Great was blonde. The one colour picture we have of the man shows a dark blonde young man. The northern Dorians pictured themselves as blonde. Homer mentions fair-haired men (/heroes - pretty much the same to him). Cleopatra's grandmother was a blonde Greek woman.

Where does this need come from to dump all fair-haired people north of the Drava? It certainly isn't historically accurate!

Never has a man conquering the world looked so mildly disinterested.

[Rhozeus]

Nope: Most Indo-Europeans were blonde, blonde-ish, or even red-haired - and with blue or green eyes. It's only once they start marrying the indigenous southern Europeans (like the Pelasgians, in Greece) or other immigrants (Athens had a sizeable Phoenician bloodline) that they became brown-eyed and black-haired.

As mentioned before in this thread: Alexander the Great was blonde. The one colour picture we have of the man shows a dark blonde young man. The northern Dorians pictured themselves as blonde. Homer mentions fair-haired men (/heroes - pretty much the same to him). Cleopatra's grandmother was a blonde Greek woman.

Where does this need come from to dump all fair-haired people north of the Drava? It certainly isn't historically accurate!

Shall we include a colour-accurate detail? Again: I said Dark Blonde - and his hair is lighter than the manes of Boucephalos.

https://screenrant.com/christopher-mcqu ... der-great/

[Hurdergaryp]

African Americans think everyone from Africa is black?

yeah

Now that's an overly simplistic answer. Generalist, too.

[The Huskar Social Union]

yeah

Now that's an overly simplistic answer. Generalist, too.

On nation states?

[Hurdergaryp]

Now that's an overly simplistic answer. Generalist, too.

On nation states?

I was surprised as well.

[SD_Film Artists]

It just reminds me of how Rami Malek as allegedy 'white washing' when playing as an Egyptian pharaoh despite the fact that his parents are Egyptian.

African Americans think everyone from Africa is black?

yeah

Or perhaps they mean only 'proper' Africans are black, while also seeing no double standard when a black person identifies as Irish.