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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

The Marlborough wrote:Greeks come in a variety of skin tones just like everyone else.

I guess

Torisakia wrote:They obviously didn't look like humans with the head of a dog. Seriously, you expect me to believe that a guy like this was walking around the pyramids?

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:

New haven america wrote:Nicole Kidman when she was younger.

Cleopatra was a blond haired, blue eyed, Greek women. No, seriously.

I don’t know, I’d suggest Nia Vardalos. Although I’m ok with Gadot’s casting.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Torisakia wrote:They obviously didn't look like humans with the head of a dog. Seriously, you expect me to believe that a guy like this was walking around the pyramids?

The therapist: The jackal headed man is not real and he can't harm you.

The Jackal headed man:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The therapist: The jackal headed man is not real and he can't harm you.

The Jackal headed man:

Anubis?

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The therapist: The jackal headed man is not real and he can't harm you.

The Jackal headed man:

Anubis?

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Anubis?

The Jackal Headed man

The Black Forrest wrote:Yea I saw this nonsense. I remember awhile ago they tried to declare King Tut was a black Pharaoh even though there was ancient artwork showing a tanish Tut fighting black Nubmians. Questioning the claim got you labeled as racist.

Cleopatra was the descendent of one of Alexanders generals. You could argue for a tanish greek looking woman.

There is this simplistic mentality that only actors from a particular people can play people from the past.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Anubis?

The Jackal Headed man

Torisakia wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Jackal Headed man

Regardless of what it's actually called, I refuse to believe that the Egyptians looked like that.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

New haven america wrote:Because of ethnic history, not actual surface details.

Most white people look the same, but if you told a French guy and a Russian guy that they looked basically the same you'd never hear the end of it.

That ringing you hear in the background is the residual sound of an Irish man screaming forever after being told "you're a really handsome guy. Are you British?"

Neanderthaland wrote:Let's ask the Ancient Egyptians what an Ancient Egyptian woman looks like:

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Yeah, I think Gal will do okay.

Neanderthaland wrote:Let's ask the Ancient Egyptians what an Ancient Egyptian woman looks like:

(Image)

Yeah, I think Gal will do okay.

Salus Maior wrote:

Neanderthaland wrote:Let's ask the Ancient Egyptians what an Ancient Egyptian woman looks like:

(Image)

Yeah, I think Gal will do okay.

Well, technically Cleopatra wasn't ancient Egyptian.

This is the classical era

Debate Proxy 1 wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
That ringing you hear in the background is the residual sound of an Irish man screaming forever after being told "you're a really handsome guy. Are you British?"

Actually a really good point can be drawn out of this...

A part of human psychology is to try and draw clear lines of recognition based on allegiances. It could come in the form of flags, assumed skin-color groups (Germans didn't used to be considered "white", but "swarthy"), even languages (Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian).

For instance, I have a strong preference for American English and think it more reformed; others feel differently, and we tend to draw lines based on that. I wonder if something similar is going on in trying to define Greeks as "white" or "Mediterranean" like with the Germans.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
They were tan, olive, Mediterranean. Their own hieroglyphs suggest this. Nubians were depicted as black, and Greeks as white.

Strange how they depicted the Greeks tbh. The Greeks themselves aren't exactly pale, aside from this one guy I know but he's half German and Scottish.

Greed and Death wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Strange how they depicted the Greeks tbh. The Greeks themselves aren't exactly pale, aside from this one guy I know but he's half German and Scottish.

That is an interesting part of the problem with ancient paintings.
If someone or a group of people is darker than you then said they were black. Likewise if they were fairer you said they were white.

Along comes a painter who has never seen the people in question and guess what shade gets pulled out ?

A roman painter who has never seen a Sicilian might paint him as coal black and a Eygtian painter who ahs never seen a Greek might paint them as snow white.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Greed and Death wrote:That is an interesting part of the problem with ancient paintings.
If someone or a group of people is darker than you then said they were black. Likewise if they were fairer you said they were white.

Along comes a painter who has never seen the people in question and guess what shade gets pulled out ?

A roman painter who has never seen a Sicilian might paint him as coal black and a Eygtian painter who ahs never seen a Greek might paint them as snow white.

Tuscan painters trying to paint Sicilian mafiosos fighting African immigrants: "My paintbrushes have failed me."

New haven america wrote:

Insaanistan wrote:Ehhh... a lot of them look Sudanese.

Yes, and most Sudanese look like modern day Ethiopians.

Neanderthaland wrote:

New haven america wrote:Yes, and most Sudanese look like modern day Ethiopians.

I'm not sure what "looking like an Ethiopian" even means, since Ethiopians are some of the most diverse looking people in the world.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Debate Proxy 1 wrote:Actually a really good point can be drawn out of this...

A part of human psychology is to try and draw clear lines of recognition based on allegiances. It could come in the form of flags, assumed skin-color groups (Germans didn't used to be considered "white", but "swarthy"), even languages (Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian).

For instance, I have a strong preference for American English and think it more reformed; others feel differently, and we tend to draw lines based on that. I wonder if something similar is going on in trying to define Greeks as "white" or "Mediterranean" like with the Germans.

I myself don't define race. To me ethnicity is real but not race. I feel very uncomfortable calling a Sicilian man with brown skin white and an Arab woman with ivory skin brown. And it's weird calling T.I. black when he's actually like peanut butter colored.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Neanderthaland wrote:I'm not sure what "looking like an Ethiopian" even means, since Ethiopians are some of the most diverse looking people in the world.

Looks Amhara

Greed and Death wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Tuscan painters trying to paint Sicilian mafiosos fighting African immigrants: "My paintbrushes have failed me."

Interesting Libyans were painted as fairly light.