Coincidentally that's the same defense white supremacists go to.
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by Cordel One » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:48 pm

by Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:49 pm

by Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:49 pm

by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:50 pm

by Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:50 pm

by Kowani » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:52 pm
Greater Malegron wrote:Kowani wrote:It is not. Nothing in anything you have proposed involves liberating any people anywhere from a single facet of domination. You merely subject whites to a two-tiered system and place black people in a mental trap. This is the opposite of liberation, for you have turned even your supposed “liberated” people into the oppressed.
Pathetic.
A “mental trap”? What are you on about?
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

by New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:52 pm

by Kowani » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:55 pm
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

by New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:55 pm
Kowani wrote:Greater Malegron wrote:He’s a “white tribalist”. Whatever that is. A bit cringe.New Steuben wrote:
Well when you have people like the nfac marching around and you talking about some new black empire
Yeah, im going to start identifying more closley with my people, for security
Both of your views are fucking terrible.
Holy shit, pull your heads out of your asses for 5 minutes and realize that this shot goes nowhere. You can’t win. The very structure is fucking asinine. This shit isn’t fucking sustainable. It’s inherently doomed, and not just because it’s based on a lie.

by Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:56 pm

by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:56 pm
New Steuben wrote:Kowani wrote:
Both of your views are fucking terrible.
Holy shit, pull your heads out of your asses for 5 minutes and realize that this shot goes nowhere. You can’t win. The very structure is fucking asinine. This shit isn’t fucking sustainable. It’s inherently doomed, and not just because it’s based on a lie.
Daddy chill

by New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:57 pm
Albrenia wrote:It is mildly amusing to see white nationalists and black nationalists mocking each other for their views, without realising they have the same views as each other, just with a colour palette swap.

by Picairn » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:57 pm
Albrenia wrote:It is mildly amusing to see white nationalists and black nationalists mocking each other for their views, without realising they have the same views as each other, just with a colour palette swap.

by Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:58 pm
by Cordel One » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 pm

by New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 pm
Albrenia wrote:New Steuben wrote:
Im not the one advocating for violence.
No, but if you continue down the road of white tribalism eventually you will. It's an inevitable result when you encounter a non-white person who refuses to be a second class citizen, or denied the right to live where they choose.

by Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 pm

by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 pm

by New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:00 pm

by Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:01 pm
Kowani wrote:Greater Malegron wrote:A “mental trap”? What are you on about?
The fucking-
Liberation cannot merely be physical and legalistic, it must be mental. Malcom X explained that particular concept better than I ever can, but if you truly wish to “liberate” black people (and I don’t think you do), you must pursue a mental liberation by which we cease to think of the world through the colonialist paradigm. Race-it’s very existence is perhaps the most salient part of colonialist thought. A state based around race is merely mental slavery.

by Kowani » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:01 pm
New Steuben wrote:Kowani wrote:
Both of your views are fucking terrible.
Holy shit, pull your heads out of your asses for 5 minutes and realize that this shot goes nowhere. You can’t win. The very structure is fucking asinine. This shit isn’t fucking sustainable. It’s inherently doomed, and not just because it’s based on a lie.
Daddy chill
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.

by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:01 pm
Greater Malegron wrote:Kowani wrote:The fucking-
Liberation cannot merely be physical and legalistic, it must be mental. Malcom X explained that particular concept better than I ever can, but if you truly wish to “liberate” black people (and I don’t think you do), you must pursue a mental liberation by which we cease to think of the world through the colonialist paradigm. Race-it’s very existence is perhaps the most salient part of colonialist thought. A state based around race is merely mental slavery.
So what, just ask nicely for the white people to “please stop being mean and oppressing us, lets just get along, water under the bridge?” I don’t think that quite cuts it.

by New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:02 pm
Kowani wrote:New Steuben wrote:
Daddy chill
Oh, no. You don't get to come in here with an internally contradictory, self-cannibalizing ideology and then pretend some sort of reasonableness. Tone is second to ideas, and your ideas are shit. There is no common fucking interest of white people. Think critically for 2 minutes, goddamn

by Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:04 pm
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