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Should Nazis have a voice in politics in the United States?

The real American patriots were shooting Nazis on the beaches of Normandy. Nazism has no place here. Fuck Nazis.
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40%
I understand and sympathize with the OP, but I believe Freedom of Speech should come first.
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41%
Sieg Heil! The American Reich will come! White Power!
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9%
I'm not from the U.S. so I really don't care. I'm just here to eat popcorn and laugh at memes. And I'm all out of popcorn.
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7%
I dunno, what does Hasselhoff think?
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Total votes : 184

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Cordel One
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Cordel One » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:48 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Kowani wrote:As a black guy, replacing racism with racism does not make anything better.

It isn’t racism. It’s liberation.

Coincidentally that's the same defense white supremacists go to.

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Greater Malegron
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Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:49 pm

Kowani wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
It only strengthens my resolve

…What?

He’s a “white tribalist”. Whatever that is. A bit cringe.

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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:49 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:It isn’t racism. It’s liberation.

Coincidentally that's the same defense white supremacists go to.

History has shown that they are liars. They aren’t the ones who are oppressed.

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:50 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Kowani wrote:…What?

He’s a “white tribalist”. Whatever that is. A bit cringe.


Pot calling the kettle black
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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:50 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:He’s a “white tribalist”. Whatever that is. A bit cringe.


Pot calling the kettle black

Is this a pun?

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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:51 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Pot calling the kettle black

Is this a pun?


Likely unintentional, but now that you mention it...

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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:52 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Kowani wrote:It is not. Nothing in anything you have proposed involves liberating any people anywhere from a single facet of domination. You merely subject whites to a two-tiered system and place black people in a mental trap. This is the opposite of liberation, for you have turned even your supposed “liberated” people into the oppressed.


Pathetic.

A “mental trap”? What are you on about?

The fucking-

Liberation cannot merely be physical and legalistic, it must be mental. Malcom X explained that particular concept better than I ever can, but if you truly wish to “liberate” black people (and I don’t think you do), you must pursue a mental liberation by which we cease to think of the world through the colonialist paradigm. Race-it’s very existence is perhaps the most salient part of colonialist thought. A state based around race is merely mental slavery.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




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New Steuben
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Ex-Nation

Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:52 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Kowani wrote:…What?

He’s a “white tribalist”. Whatever that is. A bit cringe.


Well when you have people like the nfac marching around and you talking about some new black empire

Yeah, im going to start identifying more closley with my people, for security
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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:55 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Kowani wrote:…What?

He’s a “white tribalist”. Whatever that is. A bit cringe.

New Steuben wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:He’s a “white tribalist”. Whatever that is. A bit cringe.


Well when you have people like the nfac marching around and you talking about some new black empire

Yeah, im going to start identifying more closley with my people, for security

Both of your views are fucking terrible.

Holy shit, pull your heads out of your asses for 5 minutes and realize that this shot goes nowhere. You can’t win. The very structure is fucking asinine. This shit isn’t fucking sustainable. It’s inherently doomed, and not just because it’s based on a lie.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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New Steuben
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Ex-Nation

Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:55 pm

Kowani wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:He’s a “white tribalist”. Whatever that is. A bit cringe.

New Steuben wrote:
Well when you have people like the nfac marching around and you talking about some new black empire

Yeah, im going to start identifying more closley with my people, for security

Both of your views are fucking terrible.

Holy shit, pull your heads out of your asses for 5 minutes and realize that this shot goes nowhere. You can’t win. The very structure is fucking asinine. This shit isn’t fucking sustainable. It’s inherently doomed, and not just because it’s based on a lie.


Daddy chill
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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:56 pm

It is mildly amusing to see white nationalists and black nationalists mocking each other for their views, without realising they have the same views as each other, just with a colour palette swap.

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Ex-Nation

Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:56 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Kowani wrote:
Both of your views are fucking terrible.

Holy shit, pull your heads out of your asses for 5 minutes and realize that this shot goes nowhere. You can’t win. The very structure is fucking asinine. This shit isn’t fucking sustainable. It’s inherently doomed, and not just because it’s based on a lie.


Daddy chill


Whooooaaaaaaaaaa whoa whoa whoa whoa what?
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:57 pm

Albrenia wrote:It is mildly amusing to see white nationalists and black nationalists mocking each other for their views, without realising they have the same views as each other, just with a colour palette swap.


Im not the one advocating for violence.
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Picairn
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Founded: Feb 21, 2020
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Picairn » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:57 pm

Albrenia wrote:It is mildly amusing to see white nationalists and black nationalists mocking each other for their views, without realising they have the same views as each other, just with a colour palette swap.

I can never stop laughing at how both of them didn't realize their own contradiction.
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Albrenia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:58 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Albrenia wrote:It is mildly amusing to see white nationalists and black nationalists mocking each other for their views, without realising they have the same views as each other, just with a colour palette swap.


Im not the one advocating for violence.


No, but if you continue down the road of white tribalism eventually you will. It's an inevitable result when you encounter a non-white person who refuses to be a second class citizen, or denied the right to live where they choose.

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Cordel One
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Cordel One » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:He’s a “white tribalist”. Whatever that is. A bit cringe.


Well when you have people like the nfac marching around and you talking about some new black empire

Yeah, im going to start identifying more closley with my people, for security

Go look somewhere else for your people, I want nothing to do with you or your race war.

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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 pm

Albrenia wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
Im not the one advocating for violence.


No, but if you continue down the road of white tribalism eventually you will. It's an inevitable result when you encounter a non-white person who refuses to be a second class citizen, or denied the right to live where they choose.


Well im not an internationalist “no human is illegal” type sooooo
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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Albrenia wrote:It is mildly amusing to see white nationalists and black nationalists mocking each other for their views, without realising they have the same views as each other, just with a colour palette swap.


Im not the one advocating for violence.

The history of white supremacy proves you undeniably wrong. When have we ever seen a peaceful white supremacy?

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Ex-Nation

Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 pm

https://youtu.be/Syef51M7n5w

This video explains what's going on here very well.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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New Steuben
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Ex-Nation

Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:00 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
Im not the one advocating for violence.

The history of white supremacy proves you undeniably wrong. When have we ever seen a peaceful white supremacy?


Im not a supremacist
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Greater Malegron
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Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:01 pm

Kowani wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:A “mental trap”? What are you on about?

The fucking-

Liberation cannot merely be physical and legalistic, it must be mental. Malcom X explained that particular concept better than I ever can, but if you truly wish to “liberate” black people (and I don’t think you do), you must pursue a mental liberation by which we cease to think of the world through the colonialist paradigm. Race-it’s very existence is perhaps the most salient part of colonialist thought. A state based around race is merely mental slavery.

So what, just ask nicely for the white people to “please stop being mean and oppressing us, lets just get along, water under the bridge?” I don’t think that quite cuts it.

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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:01 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Kowani wrote:
Both of your views are fucking terrible.

Holy shit, pull your heads out of your asses for 5 minutes and realize that this shot goes nowhere. You can’t win. The very structure is fucking asinine. This shit isn’t fucking sustainable. It’s inherently doomed, and not just because it’s based on a lie.


Daddy chill

Oh, no. You don't get to come in here with an internally contradictory, self-cannibalizing ideology and then pretend some sort of reasonableness. Tone is second to ideas, and your ideas are shit. There is no common fucking interest of white people. Think critically for 2 minutes, goddamn
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Founded: Jul 27, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:01 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Kowani wrote:The fucking-

Liberation cannot merely be physical and legalistic, it must be mental. Malcom X explained that particular concept better than I ever can, but if you truly wish to “liberate” black people (and I don’t think you do), you must pursue a mental liberation by which we cease to think of the world through the colonialist paradigm. Race-it’s very existence is perhaps the most salient part of colonialist thought. A state based around race is merely mental slavery.

So what, just ask nicely for the white people to “please stop being mean and oppressing us, lets just get along, water under the bridge?” I don’t think that quite cuts it.


How about resisting racists instead of becoming one against whites?
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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New Steuben
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Founded: Mar 05, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:02 pm

Kowani wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
Daddy chill

Oh, no. You don't get to come in here with an internally contradictory, self-cannibalizing ideology and then pretend some sort of reasonableness. Tone is second to ideas, and your ideas are shit. There is no common fucking interest of white people. Think critically for 2 minutes, goddamn


Relax
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Greater Malegron
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Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:04 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:So what, just ask nicely for the white people to “please stop being mean and oppressing us, lets just get along, water under the bridge?” I don’t think that quite cuts it.


How about resisting racists instead of becoming one against whites?

Like I said, white people, racist or not, are at least partially complicit in the system of white supremacy.

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