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Should Nazis have a voice in politics in the United States?

The real American patriots were shooting Nazis on the beaches of Normandy. Nazism has no place here. Fuck Nazis.
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I understand and sympathize with the OP, but I believe Freedom of Speech should come first.
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41%
Sieg Heil! The American Reich will come! White Power!
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9%
I'm not from the U.S. so I really don't care. I'm just here to eat popcorn and laugh at memes. And I'm all out of popcorn.
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7%
I dunno, what does Hasselhoff think?
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Total votes : 184

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:35 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Picairn wrote:Question: What does "keeping their heads down" mean to you? Is that a call to be subservient to the new black ethno-state?

You know the Klan? The Nazis? Shit like that? Don’t do that. Don’t do anything racist for that matter. Show some respect.


How can one have a black ethnostate with a major white population and racial equality?
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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:37 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:That makes no indication of curtailing civil rights? What specific rights have I advocated denying?


So you're advocating a black nationalist system which does not remove non-black people, offers them full legal status and protections, and does not put in place policies to install black people in a superior status to non-black people?

Well, I think the government should incentivize black people to hold public office, and I would argue black people would probably be granted greater legal protection, I mean, they are the overwhelming majority, after all.

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:38 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
So you're advocating a black nationalist system which does not remove non-black people, offers them full legal status and protections, and does not put in place policies to install black people in a superior status to non-black people?

Well, I think the government should incentivize black people to hold public office, and I would argue black people would probably be granted greater legal protection, I mean, they are the overwhelming majority, after all.


Greater legal protection? Incentivize blacks holding office? Your system is racist dude. It's a two tiered state.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:38 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:Well, I think the government should incentivize black people to hold public office, and I would argue black people would probably be granted greater legal protection, I mean, they are the overwhelming majority, after all.


Greater legal protection? Incentivize blacks holding office? Your system is racist dude. It's a two tiered state.


Dare I say...systemic? :p
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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:38 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:You know the Klan? The Nazis? Shit like that? Don’t do that. Don’t do anything racist for that matter. Show some respect.


How can one have a black ethnostate with a major white population and racial equality?

I would argue whites could receive money in exchange for leaving the country. Or other incentives. Ultimately, if it comes down to it, I admit, I wouldn’t be too against force.

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Picairn
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Postby Picairn » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:39 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:Well, I think the government should incentivize black people to hold public office, and I would argue black people would probably be granted greater legal protection, I mean, they are the overwhelming majority, after all.

So special benefits for a particular group? No.
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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:39 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
How can one have a black ethnostate with a major white population and racial equality?

I would argue whites could receive money in exchange for leaving the country. Or other incentives. Ultimately, if it comes down to it, I admit, I wouldn’t be too against force.


So ethnic cleansing then.

Bruh
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:40 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:Well, I think the government should incentivize black people to hold public office, and I would argue black people would probably be granted greater legal protection, I mean, they are the overwhelming majority, after all.


Greater legal protection? Incentivize blacks holding office? Your system is racist dude. It's a two tiered state.

*looks at the white-dominated system that currently exists*

My system is racist? :roll:

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:40 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:I would argue whites could receive money in exchange for leaving the country. Or other incentives. Ultimately, if it comes down to it, I admit, I wouldn’t be too against force.


So ethnic cleansing then.

Bruh


Black nationalists are just Nazis for their own people, never let anyone tell you otherwise.
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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:40 pm

Picairn wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:Well, I think the government should incentivize black people to hold public office, and I would argue black people would probably be granted greater legal protection, I mean, they are the overwhelming majority, after all.

So special benefits for a particular group? No.

More rights for black people is not less rights for whites.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:40 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater legal protection? Incentivize blacks holding office? Your system is racist dude. It's a two tiered state.

*looks at the white-dominated system that currently exists*

My system is racist? :roll:

As a black guy, replacing racism with racism does not make anything better.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:41 pm

Kowani wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:*looks at the white-dominated system that currently exists*

My system is racist? :roll:

As a black guy, replacing racism with racism does not make anything better.

It isn’t racism. It’s liberation.

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:41 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater legal protection? Incentivize blacks holding office? Your system is racist dude. It's a two tiered state.

*looks at the white-dominated system that currently exists*

My system is racist? :roll:


Nice whataboutism
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Picairn
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Postby Picairn » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:42 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:More rights for black people is not less rights for whites.

Ironically a few months ago I was pulling this exact same shit with the Istanbul treaty on protections towards women.

Thank goodness I recognized my mistake and dropped that.
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Albrenia wrote:With great power comes great mockability.

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Moralityland wrote:big corporations allied with the communist elite
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Listen here Jack, we're going to destroy malarkey.
♔ The Empire of Picairn ♔
-✯ ✯ ✯ ✯ ✯-—————————-✯ ✯ ✯ ✯ ✯-
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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:42 pm

This thread is an example why free speech is important, so we can know who holds what views in the open.

and then have healthy, civilized,debate.
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:44 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Kowani wrote:As a black guy, replacing racism with racism does not make anything better.

It isn’t racism. It’s liberation.

It is not. Nothing in anything you have proposed involves liberating any people anywhere from a single facet of domination. You merely subject whites to a two-tiered system and place black people in a mental trap. This is the opposite of liberation, for you have turned even your supposed “liberated” people into the oppressed.


Pathetic.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:44 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater legal protection? Incentivize blacks holding office? Your system is racist dude. It's a two tiered state.

*looks at the white-dominated system that currently exists*

My system is racist? :roll:

You just advocated for ethnic cleansing, that's definitely racist.

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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:45 pm

Kowani wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:It isn’t racism. It’s liberation.

It is not. Nothing in anything you have proposed involves liberating any people anywhere from a single facet of domination. You merely subject whites to a two-tiered system and place black people in a mental trap. This is the opposite of liberation, for you have turned even your supposed “liberated” people into the oppressed.


Pathetic.


It only strengthens my resolve
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Picairn
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Postby Picairn » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:45 pm

New Steuben wrote:This thread is an example why free speech is important, so we can know who holds what views in the open.

and then have healthy, civilized,debate.

Pretty sure if there were no rules, this debate would have exploded into a string of insults and mockery.
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Albrenia wrote:With great power comes great mockability.

Proctopeo wrote:I'm completely right and you know it.

Moralityland wrote:big corporations allied with the communist elite
Social democrat, passionate political observer, and naval warfare enthusiast.
Listen here Jack, we're going to destroy malarkey.
♔ The Empire of Picairn ♔
-✯ ✯ ✯ ✯ ✯-—————————-✯ ✯ ✯ ✯ ✯-
Kyrusia's words live on forever!

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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:45 pm

Picairn wrote:
New Steuben wrote:This thread is an example why free speech is important, so we can know who holds what views in the open.

and then have healthy, civilized,debate.

Pretty sure if there were no rules, this debate would have exploded into a string of insults and mockery.


Well yeah, we have violent people in this thread, it would be more than that, we would be having fist fights.
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Head of Government: Chancellor Arthur Berg
Ethnicity's: Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Southern/Eastern Euro Minorities
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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:46 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
So ethnic cleansing then.

Bruh


Black nationalists are just Nazis for their own people, never let anyone tell you otherwise.


Agreed.

Both must be opposed vocally wherever they raise their head.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:46 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Kowani wrote:It is not. Nothing in anything you have proposed involves liberating any people anywhere from a single facet of domination. You merely subject whites to a two-tiered system and place black people in a mental trap. This is the opposite of liberation, for you have turned even your supposed “liberated” people into the oppressed.


Pathetic.


It only strengthens my resolve

…What?
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:46 pm

Kowani wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:It isn’t racism. It’s liberation.

It is not. Nothing in anything you have proposed involves liberating any people anywhere from a single facet of domination. You merely subject whites to a two-tiered system and place black people in a mental trap. This is the opposite of liberation, for you have turned even your supposed “liberated” people into the oppressed.


Pathetic.

A “mental trap”? What are you on about?

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:47 pm

I am truly antifascist. I oppose all systems that seek to restrict human freedom and create artificial hierarchies.

That means no black ethnostate either
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Picairn
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Founded: Feb 21, 2020
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Picairn » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:47 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I am truly antifascist. I oppose all systems that seek to restrict human freedom and create artificial hierarchies.

That means no black ethnostate either

Yes.
Picairn's Ministry of Foreign Relations
Minister: Edward H. Cornell
WA Ambassador: John M. Terry (Active)
Factbook | Constitution | Newspaper
Albrenia wrote:With great power comes great mockability.

Proctopeo wrote:I'm completely right and you know it.

Moralityland wrote:big corporations allied with the communist elite
Social democrat, passionate political observer, and naval warfare enthusiast.
Listen here Jack, we're going to destroy malarkey.
♔ The Empire of Picairn ♔
-✯ ✯ ✯ ✯ ✯-—————————-✯ ✯ ✯ ✯ ✯-
Kyrusia's words live on forever!

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