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Should Nazis have a voice in politics in the United States?

The real American patriots were shooting Nazis on the beaches of Normandy. Nazism has no place here. Fuck Nazis.
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I understand and sympathize with the OP, but I believe Freedom of Speech should come first.
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Sieg Heil! The American Reich will come! White Power!
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I'm not from the U.S. so I really don't care. I'm just here to eat popcorn and laugh at memes. And I'm all out of popcorn.
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I dunno, what does Hasselhoff think?
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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:16 pm

New Steuben wrote:watching Liberals and Leftists go at it with a Black Nationalist is actually delicious.

"grabs popcorn"

also, back on topic, if your a "free society" then both the communists and nazis get to speak their mind without fear of being killed or beaten by the state or random mobs, it's called being civilized.


Well, some of us do actually oppose racism in general. So my disdain for white nationalism and black nationalism is consistent.

Also yeah, people are allowed to have shit opinions. We've just got to constantly remind people who express said opinions why their opinions are shit.

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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:17 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:If they aren’t there, they can’t be oppressed.


If Muslims don't live where you are, there can't be jihadi suicide bombings. If you ban latinos from living near you, Mara Salvatrucha won't appear. Your point?

White people can always just pack their bags and leave if they don’t like it. They have that privilege of not being forced into slavery or otherwise oppressive living conditions.

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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:18 pm

Albrenia wrote:
New Steuben wrote:watching Liberals and Leftists go at it with a Black Nationalist is actually delicious.

"grabs popcorn"

also, back on topic, if your a "free society" then both the communists and nazis get to speak their mind without fear of being killed or beaten by the state or random mobs, it's called being civilized.


Well, some of us do actually oppose racism in general. So my disdain for white nationalism and black nationalism is consistent.

Also yeah, people are allowed to have shit opinions. We've just got to constantly remind people who express said opinions why their opinions are shit.


yeah, I'm not seeing NFAC and other black nationalist groups getting removed by Antifa so I guess from your mouth to god's ears :roll:
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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:18 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
If Muslims don't live where you are, there can't be jihadi suicide bombings. If you ban latinos from living near you, Mara Salvatrucha won't appear. Your point?

White people can always just pack their bags and leave if they don’t like it. They have that privilege of not being forced into slavery or otherwise oppressive living conditions.


Muslims can just pack their bags and leave America. Is that alright?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:19 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Well, some of us do actually oppose racism in general. So my disdain for white nationalism and black nationalism is consistent.

Also yeah, people are allowed to have shit opinions. We've just got to constantly remind people who express said opinions why their opinions are shit.


yeah, I'm not seeing NFAC and other black nationalist groups getting removed by Antifa so I guess from your mouth to god's ears :roll:


Good thing Albrenia isn't Antifa.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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American Micronesia
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Postby American Micronesia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:19 pm

From reading this thread, the accusations levelled against each other, and the outright radicalism by certain ideological forces here, I can only conclude one thing:

Thank God I'm not actually American.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:19 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
You just said you wanted a country without white people. You proved what you just said wrong.

If they aren’t there, they can’t be oppressed.


Cool, so you'd be fine with the US expelling its entire black population? No more oppression after all!
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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:20 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Well, some of us do actually oppose racism in general. So my disdain for white nationalism and black nationalism is consistent.

Also yeah, people are allowed to have shit opinions. We've just got to constantly remind people who express said opinions why their opinions are shit.


yeah, I'm not seeing NFAC and other black nationalist groups getting removed by Antifa so I guess from your mouth to god's ears :roll:

Probably because NFAC and other black nationalists aren’t going around committing terror the way the KKK and white supremacists do? Again, the false equivalency here is crazy. You can’t just deflect with “what about black nationalists” to justify your oppression.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:20 pm

American Micronesia wrote:From reading this thread, the accusations levelled against each other, and the outright radicalism by certain ideological forces here, I can only conclude one thing:

Thank God I'm not actually American.


That's a plot twist i didn't expect, since you have American in your name.
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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:20 pm

it's wierd being a white tribalist and being one of the saner people in this thread :blink:
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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:21 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
If Muslims don't live where you are, there can't be jihadi suicide bombings. If you ban latinos from living near you, Mara Salvatrucha won't appear. Your point?

White people can always just pack their bags and leave if they don’t like it. They have that privilege of not being forced into slavery or otherwise oppressive living conditions.


White people are unanimously wealthy enough to move out of their country of origin? Did I miss my White Bucks check or something?

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:21 pm

New Steuben wrote:it's wierd being a white tribalist and being one of the saner people in this thread :blink:


You haven't really said anything crazy. You identify heavily with your whiteness, which imo is a social grouping and not a biological reality, but you never started advocating for an ethnostate the way the other guy did.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:21 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:White people can always just pack their bags and leave if they don’t like it. They have that privilege of not being forced into slavery or otherwise oppressive living conditions.


White people are unanimously wealthy enough to move out of their country of origin? Did I miss my White Bucks check or something?


I'm actually lower class...was even homless for most of my childhood. :(
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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:22 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:If they aren’t there, they can’t be oppressed.


Cool, so you'd be fine with the US expelling its entire black population? No more oppression after all!

The way the US would have expelled black people would no doubt be oppressive and violent. The US has the force and infrastructure to use lethal force against blacks, and they are all too willing to do so.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:22 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
White people are unanimously wealthy enough to move out of their country of origin? Did I miss my White Bucks check or something?


I'm actually lower class...was even homless for most of my childhood. :(


Still waiting on your white privilege for all these years?
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Postby American Micronesia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:22 pm

New Steuben wrote:it's wierd being a white tribalist and being one of the saner people in this thread :blink:

What exactly constitutes as the "white tribe" though?

I'm from the Netherlands, and we already have an incredibly hard time trying to form an in-group with the Flemish and the Germans, let alone the rest of the continent.

I don't really understand the basics of "white nationalism" that has appeared on the US far right the last few decades after the demise of "mainstream nazism".

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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:23 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Cool, so you'd be fine with the US expelling its entire black population? No more oppression after all!

The way the US would have expelled black people would no doubt be oppressive and violent. The US has the force and infrastructure to use lethal force against blacks, and they are all too willing to do so.


If we, white Americans, wanted black Americans gone you would have been removed a LONG time ago.

according to your logic, what are we waiting for?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:23 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Cool, so you'd be fine with the US expelling its entire black population? No more oppression after all!

The way the US would have expelled black people would no doubt be oppressive and violent. The US has the force and infrastructure to use lethal force against blacks, and they are all too willing to do so.


Yeah it turns out you can't remove an entire ethnic group from a nation without violence and oppression. Thanks for telling us why your ethnostate would be shit.
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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:23 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:White people can always just pack their bags and leave if they don’t like it. They have that privilege of not being forced into slavery or otherwise oppressive living conditions.


White people are unanimously wealthy enough to move out of their country of origin? Did I miss my White Bucks check or something?

It’s not about wealth, it’s about racism and race. White people are granted more opportunities because of the pervasive white supremacy.

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Postby Picairn » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:24 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:White people can always just pack their bags and leave if they don’t like it. They have that privilege of not being forced into slavery or otherwise oppressive living conditions.

Ah yes, the bullshit Ben Shapiro argument. "People affected by climate change and rising sea levels can just sell their homes and leave".
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:24 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:The way the US would have expelled black people would no doubt be oppressive and violent. The US has the force and infrastructure to use lethal force against blacks, and they are all too willing to do so.


Yeah it turns out you can't remove an entire ethnic group from a nation without violence and oppression. Thanks for telling us why your ethnostate would be shit.

It wouldn’t be in this case.

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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:24 pm

American Micronesia wrote:
New Steuben wrote:it's wierd being a white tribalist and being one of the saner people in this thread :blink:

What exactly constitutes as the "white tribe" though?

I'm from the Netherlands, and we already have an incredibly hard time trying to form an in-group with the Flemish and the Germans, let alone the rest of the continent.

I don't really understand the basics of "white nationalism" that has appeared on the US far right the last few decades after the demise of "mainstream nazism".


you can break it down into groups such as slavic, latin, germanic etc etc

or in america, generally euro descent.

White nationalist want's a white ethnostate or a majority white nation state to safeguard the ethinc/cultural lineage of the people. It isn't that crazy, i mean many nations of the world operate on this principle today.
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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:24 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
White people are unanimously wealthy enough to move out of their country of origin? Did I miss my White Bucks check or something?

It’s not about wealth, it’s about racism and race. White people are granted more opportunities because of the pervasive white supremacy.


All these unemployed auto workers in my area would beg to differ.
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:25 pm

Picairn wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:White people can always just pack their bags and leave if they don’t like it. They have that privilege of not being forced into slavery or otherwise oppressive living conditions.

Ah yes, the bullshit Ben Shapiro argument. "People affected by climate change and rising sea levels can just sell their homes and leave".

People affected by climate change are most often minorities or poor. Try again.

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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:25 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:It’s not about wealth, it’s about racism and race. White people are granted more opportunities because of the pervasive white supremacy.


All these unemployed auto workers in my area would beg to differ.

That’s not what “white privilege” or “white supremacy” mean.

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