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Should Nazis have a voice in politics in the United States?

The real American patriots were shooting Nazis on the beaches of Normandy. Nazism has no place here. Fuck Nazis.
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I understand and sympathize with the OP, but I believe Freedom of Speech should come first.
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Sieg Heil! The American Reich will come! White Power!
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I'm not from the U.S. so I really don't care. I'm just here to eat popcorn and laugh at memes. And I'm all out of popcorn.
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I dunno, what does Hasselhoff think?
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Total votes : 184

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:55 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Communal League wrote:Ah, you're an ethno-nationalist. I suspected as much based on your past comments. It is not surprising that such a fundamentally flawed position would lead to the rejection of a better future in favour of blindly clinging to scraps of the past. It also explains why you've demurred in criticising Nazism.

Nazism is different. The nazis were a product of centuries of oppression and white supremacy. Black Nationalism, (my ideology), is rooted in liberation from that white dominated system. Nice job with the false equivalence.


And if black nationalism ever took power it would be just like the nazis.

Are you willing to give up your phone right now? That was invented by white people.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:55 pm

Albrenia wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
it has nothing to do with "being the wrong color" it's about maintaing an ethnic and cultural legacy, which basically most "woke" leftists want as well with their constant bitching about "cultural appropriation"


Those people are dumbasses too then. Cultures evolve anyway, no matter how much frightened people dig in their heels and try to stop it.

Ethnostates are trash.


Historically speaking nations almost always revolve around a primary ethnic group.

whether you like it or not.
Germanic-American Republic of New Steuben/Germanisch-Amerikanische Republik Neu Steuben
Government: Germanic Neo-Pagan Nationalist Constitutional Republic
Head of State: President Otto Wilson
Head of Government: Chancellor Arthur Berg
Ethnicity's: Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Southern/Eastern Euro Minorities
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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:56 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Ethnostates are trash, people should be able to receive equal treatment without leaving for an other country.

Too bad that isn’t possible given the pervasiveness of white supremacy.

That's true. One white supremacist in the world is ten too many, and we have millions.
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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:56 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Has anyone been peaceful historically?


No. Some of the oldest human remains we've ever found show signs of violent unnatural death. We've been going to war with each other since we first picked up rocks.


Yeah, people who think 'whites are violent' or 'all blacks are just warlord types' are just two sides of the same dumb coin. Humans are violent, regardless of colour.

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:57 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Tell me what would happen to peaceful white people in your black ethnostate then?

White people, historically, haven’t exactly been peaceful. But I guess if they kept their heads down, and didn’t start shit, I wouldn’t have too much an issue with them.


Kept their heads down? What, so segregation but against whites?
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:57 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Those people are dumbasses too then. Cultures evolve anyway, no matter how much frightened people dig in their heels and try to stop it.

Ethnostates are trash.


Historically speaking nations almost always revolve around a primary ethnic group.

whether you like it or not.


I'm glad to live in a time where that is no longer universally true then.

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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:58 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No. Some of the oldest human remains we've ever found show signs of violent unnatural death. We've been going to war with each other since we first picked up rocks.


Yeah, people who think 'whites are violent' or 'all blacks are just warlord types' are just two sides of the same dumb coin. Humans are violent, regardless of colour.


hey now, I'm not saying all blacks are warlord types I just found what he said to be ironic considering africa's history.

their are millions of massivley intelligent black men and women and I have had the honor of meeting some of them.
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Head of State: President Otto Wilson
Head of Government: Chancellor Arthur Berg
Ethnicity's: Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Southern/Eastern Euro Minorities
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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:58 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Those people are dumbasses too then. Cultures evolve anyway, no matter how much frightened people dig in their heels and try to stop it.

Ethnostates are trash.


Historically speaking nations almost always revolve around a primary ethnic group.

whether you like it or not.


Racial ethnostates are trash
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:58 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Those people are dumbasses too then. Cultures evolve anyway, no matter how much frightened people dig in their heels and try to stop it.

Ethnostates are trash.


Historically speaking nations almost always revolve around a primary ethnic group.

whether you like it or not.

Good thing I'm not a statist.

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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:58 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
Historically speaking nations almost always revolve around a primary ethnic group.

whether you like it or not.


Racial ethnostates are trash


that's a minority opinion unfortunately for you
Germanic-American Republic of New Steuben/Germanisch-Amerikanische Republik Neu Steuben
Government: Germanic Neo-Pagan Nationalist Constitutional Republic
Head of State: President Otto Wilson
Head of Government: Chancellor Arthur Berg
Ethnicity's: Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Southern/Eastern Euro Minorities
Climate: Continental

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:00 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Racial ethnostates are trash


that's a minority opinion unfortunately for you


Uh, no its not. Outside America most people don't even think about race like we do.

Try and make a white ethnostate. I doubt it would last five minutes because no one can even agree as to who is or isn't white.
Leftist, commie and Antifa Guy. Democratic Confederalist, Anti-racist

"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:00 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:Nazism is different. The nazis were a product of centuries of oppression and white supremacy. Black Nationalism, (my ideology), is rooted in liberation from that white dominated system. Nice job with the false equivalence.


And if black nationalism ever took power it would be just like the nazis.

Are you willing to give up your phone right now? That was invented by white people.

That first statement is simply not true, we’ve even seen black nationalist leaders in some cases, but you don’t hear them being compared to Hitler.

As for the second thing, that’s as flimsy as the “if you hate capitalism, why do you have a phone” argument.

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:01 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
And if black nationalism ever took power it would be just like the nazis.

Are you willing to give up your phone right now? That was invented by white people.

That first statement is simply not true, we’ve even seen black nationalist leaders in some cases, but you don’t hear them being compared to Hitler.

As for the second thing, that’s as flimsy as the “if you hate capitalism, why do you have a phone” argument.


The first argument is true because we also saw what Robert Mugabe did.

He chased whites out of Zimbabwe. BTW question, do you live in a mostly non white country?
Leftist, commie and Antifa Guy. Democratic Confederalist, Anti-racist

"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:02 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
that's a minority opinion unfortunately for you


Uh, no its not. Outside America most people don't even think about race like we do.

Try and make a white ethnostate. I doubt it would last five minutes because no one can even agree as to who is or isn't white.


Good thing i don't want a 100% white only state now do I?
Germanic-American Republic of New Steuben/Germanisch-Amerikanische Republik Neu Steuben
Government: Germanic Neo-Pagan Nationalist Constitutional Republic
Head of State: President Otto Wilson
Head of Government: Chancellor Arthur Berg
Ethnicity's: Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Southern/Eastern Euro Minorities
Climate: Continental

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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:02 pm

Let's say I live in your black nationalist state, and I'm white. What happens if I don't just accept having to 'keep my head down'? What if I express my political opinions like a free citizen, and refuse to be cowed into a submissive role?

What happens if I refuse to sit at the back of the bus?

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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:02 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:White people, historically, haven’t exactly been peaceful. But I guess if they kept their heads down, and didn’t start shit, I wouldn’t have too much an issue with them.


Kept their heads down? What, so segregation but against whites?

Hey, they segregated us first. Also, ideally they’d just go somewhere else. What is with people and persecution complexes?

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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:03 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kept their heads down? What, so segregation but against whites?

Hey, they segregated us first. Also, ideally they’d just go somewhere else. What is with people and persecution complexes?


that's ironic says the guy who think their is a white supreamist master plan unfolding across the globe :roll:
Germanic-American Republic of New Steuben/Germanisch-Amerikanische Republik Neu Steuben
Government: Germanic Neo-Pagan Nationalist Constitutional Republic
Head of State: President Otto Wilson
Head of Government: Chancellor Arthur Berg
Ethnicity's: Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Southern/Eastern Euro Minorities
Climate: Continental

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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:03 pm

Albrenia wrote:Let's say I live in your black nationalist state, and I'm white. What happens if I don't just accept having to 'keep my head down'? What if I express my political opinions like a free citizen, and refuse to be cowed into a submissive role?

What happens if I refuse to sit at the back of the bus?

Again, stop trying to drive a false equivalency here. Our race wasn’t the one that enslaved and belittled others for hundreds of years.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:03 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kept their heads down? What, so segregation but against whites?

Hey, they segregated us first. Also, ideally they’d just go somewhere else. What is with people and persecution complexes?


The irony of this statement isn't lost on you I hope.
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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:03 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kept their heads down? What, so segregation but against whites?

Hey, they segregated us first. Also, ideally they’d just go somewhere else. What is with people and persecution complexes?


"They did it first" is a shit argument. And many white people could make the case that in fact the enslavement of whites by people of color happened first (arab slave trade). Guess white supremacists get to kill all minorities now cause "they did it first."
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:04 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:That first statement is simply not true, we’ve even seen black nationalist leaders in some cases, but you don’t hear them being compared to Hitler.

As for the second thing, that’s as flimsy as the “if you hate capitalism, why do you have a phone” argument.


The first argument is true because we also saw what Robert Mugabe did.

He chased whites out of Zimbabwe. BTW question, do you live in a mostly non white country?

No. Why? Do you?

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:04 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Let's say I live in your black nationalist state, and I'm white. What happens if I don't just accept having to 'keep my head down'? What if I express my political opinions like a free citizen, and refuse to be cowed into a submissive role?

What happens if I refuse to sit at the back of the bus?

Again, stop trying to drive a false equivalency here. Our race wasn’t the one that enslaved and belittled others for hundreds of years.


Oh my fucking God that's hilarious. You must not know African history then cause this is exactly what happened for thousands of years between Africans.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Communal League
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Postby Communal League » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:04 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kept their heads down? What, so segregation but against whites?

Hey, they segregated us first. Also, ideally they’d just go somewhere else. What is with people and persecution complexes?

Are you seriously this lacking in self awareness? Literally all you've done for the past few pages is complain about how white people are the root of all evil.

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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:05 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:Hey, they segregated us first. Also, ideally they’d just go somewhere else. What is with people and persecution complexes?


The irony of this statement isn't lost on you I hope.

It’s not a persecution complex when you have thousands of years of history on your side.

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:05 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The first argument is true because we also saw what Robert Mugabe did.

He chased whites out of Zimbabwe. BTW question, do you live in a mostly non white country?

No. Why? Do you?


I do. And most white people have treated me, a person of color, like anyone else.

You ought to meet white people sometime. They're no different than anyone else.
Leftist, commie and Antifa Guy. Democratic Confederalist, Anti-racist

"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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