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Should Nazis have a voice in politics in the United States?

The real American patriots were shooting Nazis on the beaches of Normandy. Nazism has no place here. Fuck Nazis.
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I understand and sympathize with the OP, but I believe Freedom of Speech should come first.
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Sieg Heil! The American Reich will come! White Power!
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I'm not from the U.S. so I really don't care. I'm just here to eat popcorn and laugh at memes. And I'm all out of popcorn.
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I dunno, what does Hasselhoff think?
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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:41 pm

Communal League wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:“misconception of race”
“For all humanity to share equally”.
Are you white? I get the feeling you are.
Communism replaced black culture with communism.
Oppressed peoples need to rediscover their culture and guard it from all those who wish to harm it. Whites can keep their ideas, because we don’t want them. Africa should be for Africans, Asia for the Asians, and America for the native Americans. It’s our cultures, our history, our heritage. We’re not going to let you break them for some internationalist, pan-racial utopia. People are best kept separate.

Ah, you're an ethno-nationalist. I suspected as much based on your past comments. It is not surprising that such a fundamentally flawed position would lead to the rejection of a better future in favour of blindly clinging to scraps of the past. It also explains why you've demurred in criticising Nazism.

Nazism is different. The nazis were a product of centuries of oppression and white supremacy. Black Nationalism, (my ideology), is rooted in liberation from that white dominated system. Nice job with the false equivalence.
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:43 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Communal League wrote:Ah, you're an ethno-nationalist. I suspected as much based on your past comments. It is not surprising that such a fundamentally flawed position would lead to the rejection of a better future in favour of blindly clinging to scraps of the past. It also explains why you've demurred in criticising Nazism.

Nazism is different. The nazis were a product of centuries of oppression and white supremacy. Black Nationalism, (my ideology), is rooted in liberation from that white dominated system. Nice job with the false equivalence.


Black Nationalism is the same as White Nationalism

Nazism isn't necessarily White Nationalist, since many White Nationalists want an majority white ethnostate, not a totalitarian socialist state. You would be hard pressed to find them saying things like " Oh I want my guns and private property subject to the state"
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:44 pm

Yeah, nah. People arguing for a black ethnostate aren't better than those arguing for a white one. They're both racist assholes who deserve to be shouted down for their bigotry.

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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:45 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:Nazism is different. The nazis were a product of centuries of oppression and white supremacy. Black Nationalism, (my ideology), is rooted in liberation from that white dominated system. Nice job with the false equivalence.


Black Nationalism is the same as White Nationalism

Nazism isn't necessarily White Nationalist, since many White Nationalists want an majority white ethnostate, not a totalitarian socialist state. You would be hard pressed to find them saying things like " Oh I want my guns and private property subject to the state"

It is most assuredly not. Black nationalists didn’t gas millions, they didn’t slaughter countless indigenous people, they didn’t enslave other races. Fuck off with your false equivalencies.

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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:45 pm

Albrenia wrote:Yeah, nah. People arguing for a black ethnostate aren't better than those arguing for a white one. They're both racist assholes who deserve to be shouted down for their bigotry.


I disagree, I think all peoples and cultures should be respected and given their own space.

Africa shouldn't be subject to mass colonization and Europe shouldn't be subject to massive immigration

If all cultures and peoples are mixed, then nothing is sacred and nothing is special.

it would also be another huge fuck you to the native american community.
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New Steuben
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:46 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
Black Nationalism is the same as White Nationalism

Nazism isn't necessarily White Nationalist, since many White Nationalists want an majority white ethnostate, not a totalitarian socialist state. You would be hard pressed to find them saying things like " Oh I want my guns and private property subject to the state"

It is most assuredly not. Black nationalists didn’t gas millions, they didn’t slaughter countless indigenous people, they didn’t enslave other races. Fuck off with your false equivalencies.


That was National Socialists, not White Nationalists, their are differences, all NAZIS were white nationalists, not all White Nationalists are Nazis.
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Postby Communal League » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:46 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Communal League wrote:Ah, you're an ethno-nationalist. I suspected as much based on your past comments. It is not surprising that such a fundamentally flawed position would lead to the rejection of a better future in favour of blindly clinging to scraps of the past. It also explains why you've demurred in criticising Nazism.

Nazism is different. The nazis were a product of centuries of oppression and white supremacy. Black Nationalism, (my ideology), is rooted in liberation from that white dominated system. Nice job with the false equivalence.

Black nationalism is based on playing the Uno reverse card. You just swap white for black, and otherwise adopt the very system that oppresses you.

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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:47 pm

Albrenia wrote:Yeah, nah. People arguing for a black ethnostate aren't better than those arguing for a white one. They're both racist assholes who deserve to be shouted down for their bigotry.

You too? You people should know better than to do this “both sides are the same” circlejerk like somehow Nazis who want genocide and racism is the same as people trying to rise up against a system that treats them as subhuman and actively fights against the white supremacist system.

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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:48 pm

Communal League wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:Nazism is different. The nazis were a product of centuries of oppression and white supremacy. Black Nationalism, (my ideology), is rooted in liberation from that white dominated system. Nice job with the false equivalence.

Black nationalism is based on playing the Uno reverse card. You just swap white for black, and otherwise adopt the very system that oppresses you.

It’s not the system that is oppressive, it is the oppressors that built the system. Any system of their design will inherently favor their interests at the expense of the oppressed.
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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:48 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Yeah, nah. People arguing for a black ethnostate aren't better than those arguing for a white one. They're both racist assholes who deserve to be shouted down for their bigotry.

You too? You people should know better than to do this “both sides are the same” circlejerk like somehow Nazis who want genocide and racism is the same as people trying to rise up against a system that treats them as subhuman and actively fights against the white supremacist system.


Black people have all of Africa and tons of unused space, Ghana is even offering citizenship to so called "opressed" black people.

you have tons of options. Also, if your butthurt about oppression you might want to ask why the arabs own the entire top half of your home continent.
Germanic-American Republic of New Steuben/Germanisch-Amerikanische Republik Neu Steuben
Government: Germanic Neo-Pagan Nationalist Constitutional Republic
Head of State: President Otto Wilson
Head of Government: Chancellor Arthur Berg
Ethnicity's: Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Southern/Eastern Euro Minorities
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Communal League
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Postby Communal League » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:48 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:Nazism is different. The nazis were a product of centuries of oppression and white supremacy. Black Nationalism, (my ideology), is rooted in liberation from that white dominated system. Nice job with the false equivalence.


Black Nationalism is the same as White Nationalism

Nazism isn't necessarily White Nationalist, since many White Nationalists want an majority white ethnostate, not a totalitarian socialist state. You would be hard pressed to find them saying things like " Oh I want my guns and private property subject to the state"

The socialism of the Nazis is a myth. There were some socialists in the Nazi Party before they got into government, but hey were all purged in the Night of the Long Knives. In practice, the Nazis endorsed capitalist economics and private ownership. Indeed, the word privatisation was coined to describe their mass sale of state-owned property.

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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:49 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Yeah, nah. People arguing for a black ethnostate aren't better than those arguing for a white one. They're both racist assholes who deserve to be shouted down for their bigotry.

You too? You people should know better than to do this “both sides are the same” circlejerk like somehow Nazis who want genocide and racism is the same as people trying to rise up against a system that treats them as subhuman and actively fights against the white supremacist system.


Tell me what would happen to peaceful white people in your black ethnostate then?

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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:49 pm

Communal League wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
Black Nationalism is the same as White Nationalism

Nazism isn't necessarily White Nationalist, since many White Nationalists want an majority white ethnostate, not a totalitarian socialist state. You would be hard pressed to find them saying things like " Oh I want my guns and private property subject to the state"

The socialism of the Nazis is a myth. There were some socialists in the Nazi Party before they got into government, but hey were all purged in the Night of the Long Knives. In practice, the Nazis endorsed capitalist economics and private ownership. Indeed, the word privatisation was coined to describe their mass sale of state-owned property.


dosn't matter, the point is, there are few White Nationalists wanting to be a bug under the states boot, they simply just want to maintain a white majority nation, that's basically it and some want national healthcare like Richard Spencer.
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Germanic-American Republic of New Steuben/Germanisch-Amerikanische Republik Neu Steuben
Government: Germanic Neo-Pagan Nationalist Constitutional Republic
Head of State: President Otto Wilson
Head of Government: Chancellor Arthur Berg
Ethnicity's: Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Southern/Eastern Euro Minorities
Climate: Continental

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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:51 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:You too? You people should know better than to do this “both sides are the same” circlejerk like somehow Nazis who want genocide and racism is the same as people trying to rise up against a system that treats them as subhuman and actively fights against the white supremacist system.


Tell me what would happen to peaceful white people in your black ethnostate then?

White people, historically, haven’t exactly been peaceful. But I guess if they kept their heads down, and didn’t start shit, I wouldn’t have too much an issue with them.
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Postby Cordel One » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:51 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:You too? You people should know better than to do this “both sides are the same” circlejerk like somehow Nazis who want genocide and racism is the same as people trying to rise up against a system that treats them as subhuman and actively fights against the white supremacist system.


Black people have all of Africa and tons of unused space, Ghana is even offering citizenship to so called "opressed" black people.

you have tons of options. Also, if your butthurt about oppression you might want to ask why the arabs own the entire top half of your home continent.

Ethnostates are trash, people should be able to receive equal treatment without leaving for an other country.

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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:51 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Communal League wrote:The socialism of the Nazis is a myth. There were some socialists in the Nazi Party before they got into government, but hey were all purged in the Night of the Long Knives. In practice, the Nazis endorsed capitalist economics and private ownership. Indeed, the word privatisation was coined to describe their mass sale of state-owned property.


dosn't matter, the point is, there are few White Nationalists wanting to be a bug under the states boot, they simply just want to maintain a white majority nation, that's basically it and some want national healthcare like Richard Spencer.


It's a good thing most of us don't care what people who are scared of people being the wrong colour want.

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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:52 pm

Albrenia wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
dosn't matter, the point is, there are few White Nationalists wanting to be a bug under the states boot, they simply just want to maintain a white majority nation, that's basically it and some want national healthcare like Richard Spencer.


It's a good thing most of us don't care what people who are scared of people being the wrong colour want.


it has nothing to do with "being the wrong color" it's about maintaing an ethnic and cultural legacy, which basically most "woke" leftists want as well with their constant bitching about "cultural appropriation"
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Government: Germanic Neo-Pagan Nationalist Constitutional Republic
Head of State: President Otto Wilson
Head of Government: Chancellor Arthur Berg
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Greater Malegron
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:52 pm

Cordel One wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
Black people have all of Africa and tons of unused space, Ghana is even offering citizenship to so called "opressed" black people.

you have tons of options. Also, if your butthurt about oppression you might want to ask why the arabs own the entire top half of your home continent.

Ethnostates are trash, people should be able to receive equal treatment without leaving for an other country.

Too bad that isn’t possible given the pervasiveness of white supremacy.

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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:53 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Tell me what would happen to peaceful white people in your black ethnostate then?

White people, historically, haven’t exactly been peaceful. But I guess if they kept their heads down, and didn’t start shit, I wouldn’t have too much an issue with them.


Black civilizations have pretty much been exclusively warlord states throughout almost their entire history so idk what this even means.
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Postby Cordel One » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:53 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Tell me what would happen to peaceful white people in your black ethnostate then?

White people, historically, haven’t exactly been peaceful. But I guess if they kept their heads down, and didn’t start shit, I wouldn’t have too much an issue with them.

Has anyone been peaceful historically? In recent history Europe (which happens to be white) got the upper hand and used it to subjugate and exploit the world. It doesn't make white people superior, inferior, or different.
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:54 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Ethnostates are trash, people should be able to receive equal treatment without leaving for an other country.

Too bad that isn’t possible given the pervasiveness of white supremacy.

You're literally blaming Europeans for everything wrong with the world.

Do I need to spell out how stupid that is?
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:54 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
It's a good thing most of us don't care what people who are scared of people being the wrong colour want.


it has nothing to do with "being the wrong color" it's about maintaing an ethnic and cultural legacy, which basically most "woke" leftists want as well with their constant bitching about "cultural appropriation"


Those people are dumbasses too then. Cultures evolve anyway, no matter how much frightened people dig in their heels and try to stop it.

Ethnostates are trash.

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Postby New Steuben » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:55 pm

Greater Malegron wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Ethnostates are trash, people should be able to receive equal treatment without leaving for an other country.

Too bad that isn’t possible given the pervasiveness of white supremacy.


if white supremacy was a real threat Europe wouldn't be letting in millions of african and arab people into their nations.

and these peoples must enjoy white supremacy if that is their ultimate goal: to pop babies out in native white nations.
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Head of Government: Chancellor Arthur Berg
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Postby Greater Malegron » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:55 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:White people, historically, haven’t exactly been peaceful. But I guess if they kept their heads down, and didn’t start shit, I wouldn’t have too much an issue with them.


Black civilizations have pretty much been exclusively warlord states throughout almost their entire history so idk what this even means.

Wow. This is just so damn racist, I can’t even.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:55 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Greater Malegron wrote:White people, historically, haven’t exactly been peaceful. But I guess if they kept their heads down, and didn’t start shit, I wouldn’t have too much an issue with them.

Has anyone been peaceful historically?


No. Some of the oldest human remains we've ever found show signs of violent unnatural death. We've been going to war with each other since we first picked up rocks.
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