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Should Nazis have a voice in politics in the United States?

The real American patriots were shooting Nazis on the beaches of Normandy. Nazism has no place here. Fuck Nazis.
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I understand and sympathize with the OP, but I believe Freedom of Speech should come first.
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41%
Sieg Heil! The American Reich will come! White Power!
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9%
I'm not from the U.S. so I really don't care. I'm just here to eat popcorn and laugh at memes. And I'm all out of popcorn.
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I dunno, what does Hasselhoff think?
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:17 am

Kowani wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Remember when Laura Ingraham flashed a Nazi salute and nobody batted an eyelash?

Wait she what-


Yup.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:23 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kowani wrote:Wait she what-


Yup.

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Then again, Lauren Chen just got caught going “culture and IQ” a few days ago, so I should not be surprised.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:25 am

Kowani wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Yup.

Normal white supremacy : dogwhistles
Laura ingraham: foghorn


Then again, Lauren Chen just got caught going “culture and IQ” a few days ago, so I should not be surprised.


She Shouts Sieg Heil by the Sea Shore.

It's amazing how racists aren't even being sneaky about their racism anymore. Trump's election really emboldened them.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:29 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kowani wrote:Normal white supremacy : dogwhistles
Laura ingraham: foghorn


Then again, Lauren Chen just got caught going “culture and IQ” a few days ago, so I should not be surprised.


She Shouts Sieg Heil by the Sea Shore.

It's amazing how racists aren't even being sneaky about their racism anymore. Trump's election really emboldened them.

Turns out, when the President of the country is running on a platform of white grievance, the racists come out of the shadows.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:31 am

Ifreann wrote:We all recall when the Nazis were conclusively shown that their ideology was logically flawed, and then they laid down their arms and Germany became a liberal, democratic republic.


Of course, I remember when Hitler decided Fascism was wrong and disbanded the Nazi party.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:46 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kowani wrote:Normal white supremacy : dogwhistles
Laura ingraham: foghorn


Then again, Lauren Chen just got caught going “culture and IQ” a few days ago, so I should not be surprised.


She Shouts Sieg Heil by the Sea Shore.

It's amazing how racists aren't even being sneaky about their racism anymore. Trump's election really emboldened them.


"I'm not racist. I just think you and your ilk should be wiped out with extreme fucking prejudice."

This is the kind of thinking Trump normalized.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:47 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Ifreann wrote:We all recall when the Nazis were conclusively shown that their ideology was logically flawed, and then they laid down their arms and Germany became a liberal, democratic republic.


Of course, I remember when Hitler decided Fascism was wrong and disbanded the Nazi party.


"The Aryan race doesn't exist. We've been living a lie and should give up."

-Hitler's Good Friday speech, 1945.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:51 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kowani wrote:Wait she what-


Yup.


Seems accidental but then again you never know.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:52 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:
Of course, I remember when Hitler decided Fascism was wrong and disbanded the Nazi party.


"The Aryan race doesn't exist. We've been living a lie and should give up."

-Hitler's Good Friday speech, 1945.


"No one race or culture is superior to another. We should create a society that emphasises harmony and racial equality, where all people have the same opportunity and nobody finds themselves disadvantaged by their birth."

-Unsere Kampf, 1944
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:56 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Ifreann wrote:We all recall when the Nazis were conclusively shown that their ideology was logically flawed, and then they laid down their arms and Germany became a liberal, democratic republic.


Of course, I remember when Hitler decided Fascism was wrong and disbanded the Nazi party.

In a life of evil, at least he didn't add animal cruelty to the list...

Oh, wait, he did. He had his dog killed, the bastard.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:58 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
She Shouts Sieg Heil by the Sea Shore.

It's amazing how racists aren't even being sneaky about their racism anymore. Trump's election really emboldened them.


"I'm not racist. I just think you and your ilk should be wiped out with extreme fucking prejudice."

This is the kind of thinking Trump normalized.


The moment someone qualifies that statement with a “but”, it’s over. They’re racist.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:30 pm

-Ocelot- wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Yup.


Seems accidental but then again you never know.


"Accidental". Sure. Just like how invading the Sudetenland was "accidental".

How do you "accidentally" do a Nazi salute?
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Postby Dylar » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:31 pm

To quote Franklin D Roosevelt's Arsenal of Democracy speech
Their secret emissaries are active in our own and neighboring countries. They seek to stir up suspicion and dissension to cause internal strife. They try to turn capital against labor and vice versa. They try to reawaken long slumbering racial and religious enmities which should have no place in this country. They are active in every group that promotes intolerance. They exploit for their own ends our natural abhorrence of war. These trouble-breeders have but one purpose. It is to divide our people into hostile groups and to destroy our unity and shatter our will to defend ourselves.

There are also American citizens, many of them in high places, who, unwittingly in most cases, are aiding and abetting the work of these agents. I do not charge these American citizens with being foreign agents. But I do charge them with doing exactly the kind of work that the dictators want done in the United States.

These people not only believe that we can save our own skins by shutting our eyes to the fate of other nations. Some of them go much further than that. They say that we can and should become the friends and even the partners of the Axis powers. Some of them even suggest that we should imitate the methods of the dictatorships. Americans never can and never will do that.

The experience of the past two years has proven beyond doubt that no nation can appease the Nazis. No man can tame a tiger into a kitten by stroking it. There can be no appeasement with ruthlessness. There can be no reasoning with an incendiary bomb. We know now that a nation can have peace with the Nazis only at the price of total surrender.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:31 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
Seems accidental but then again you never know.


"Accidental". Sure. Just like how invading the Sudetenland was "accidental".

How do you "accidentally" do a Nazi salute?

Clearly, her joints locked up when she did Nazi it coming.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:33 pm

Kowani wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
"Accidental". Sure. Just like how invading the Sudetenland was "accidental".

How do you "accidentally" do a Nazi salute?

Clearly, her joints locked up when she did Nazi it coming.


That sounds about reich. :p
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Postby Dylar » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:34 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
Seems accidental but then again you never know.


"Accidental". Sure. Just like how invading the Sudetenland was "accidental".

How do you "accidentally" do a Nazi salute?

Tbf, it is slightly possible that she might've been doing a Bellamy salute. However I doubt she would've known what that was since Congress took it out of the flag code in 1942.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:05 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
Seems accidental but then again you never know.


"Accidental". Sure. Just like how invading the Sudetenland was "accidental".

How do you "accidentally" do a Nazi salute?


Laura Ingraham would probably be excited if they started sending minorities to concentration camps. Let's not delude ourselves into thinking that there aren't millions of Americans who would support that shit.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:08 am

The general problem I have with the no voice for Nazi's concept is in time you just call everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi.

See here.
https://abc7news.com/society/tensions-r ... f/7104894/
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:12 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Ifreann wrote:We all recall when the Nazis were conclusively shown that their ideology was logically flawed, and then they laid down their arms and Germany became a liberal, democratic republic.


Of course, I remember when Hitler decided Fascism was wrong and disbanded the Nazi party.

"I am as disappointed as any of you, but ze free market place of ideas has spoken" - Hitler, probably.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:22 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
Seems accidental but then again you never know.


"Accidental". Sure. Just like how invading the Sudetenland was "accidental".

How do you "accidentally" do a Nazi salute?

It looks like she is waiving to people that are around her on three sides.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:36 am

time to pull up a chair.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:30 am

Greed and Death wrote:The general problem I have with the no voice for Nazi's concept is in time you just call everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi.

See here.
https://abc7news.com/society/tensions-r ... f/7104894/
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Yeah! It's not like there's a definition for Nazism we can use to identify Nazis- oh, wait.

Greed and Death wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
"Accidental". Sure. Just like how invading the Sudetenland was "accidental".

How do you "accidentally" do a Nazi salute?

It looks like she is waiving to people that are around her on three sides.


I remember when Hitler accidentally shot himself in the head trying to wave to his wife. What a silly accident.

:roll:
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:53 am

Ifreann wrote:
Sanghyeok wrote:
Of course, I remember when Hitler decided Fascism was wrong and disbanded the Nazi party.

"I am as disappointed as any of you, but ze free market place of ideas has spoken" - Hitler, probably.


That time America avoided thousands of deaths because suddenly Hitler decided that facts and logic had spoken and his ideas had to change.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:11 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"I am as disappointed as any of you, but ze free market place of ideas has spoken" - Hitler, probably.


That time America avoided thousands of deaths because suddenly Hitler decided that facts and logic had spoken and his ideas had to change.

Ben Shapiro DESTROYS Hitler in debate!
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Postby Greater Malegron » Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:43 am

Are you serious? I'd go even further. No mercy for fascists. They've shown no mercy, why should we?

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