Mandatory Vaccinations 「Yes or No」?

[The Blaatschapen]

When everyone has autism, no-one will have autism.

Do you believe that vaccines are causing it?

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/autism-and-vaccines

[Estanglia]

For kids, yes. We already have the principle that the state can compel parents to care for their kids, so mandatory vaccinations don't change a whole lot.

For adults... I'm not the biggest fan of the precedent that it might set if adults were mandated to vaccinate, though I'm not opposed to other measures to get them to vaccinate (e.g education campaigns).

[Estanglia]

Do you believe that vaccines are causing it?

No, but if they are, who cares? Autism is not bad. The people who are afraid of vaccines because they think it will give their kids autism? Kinda reveals that they have a sh*tty opinion of autism. People who are "on the spectrum" are not any less human because of it, or less valuable as people. Any belief to the contrary is disgusting.

One of the most disgusting things about the "vaccines cause autism, therefore I'm not vaccinating" argument is that it acts like dying a preventable death is a better alternative to autism. That's a disgusting view to hold.

[Sanghyeok]

One of the most disgusting things about the "vaccines cause autism, therefore I'm not vaccinating" argument is that it acts like dying a preventable death is a better alternative to autism. That's a disgusting view to hold.

+1

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

It does seem to be the way to go but I have some stipulations. A more conservative approach should be taken for people's safety. I'd say it's illegitimate if any mandatory vaccines haven't been around for at least 10 years and haven't been sufficiently vetted in terms of testing. Any vaccines that're too new or experimental should be optional.

This. I will happily get a polio vaccine but I am not touching a covid vaccine at least for a few years. No I dont think bill gates is microchipping us for the nsa or some dumb shit. I simply think that 6~ months is absurdly quick to develope a "safe" vaccine and begin human trials. Especially with so much potential profit for being first.

If these corporation sign some sort acceptance of liability with legit reprocussions id consider it.

[Albrenia]

In general, yes, for the more dangerous or virulent diseases anyway, as long as common-sense exclusions can be made for those who legitimately cannot be vaccinated due to severe reactions to such things.

Also, the mandatory ones should be held to the highest safety standards, even more so than one would with standard vaccines.

[Tranzoria]

You can't force anyone to do Vaccinations, even though they ABSOLUTELY should.
Children, you can though.

[La Xinga]

Yes, but after a certain deadline, I.E. a month. Some people may haven doubts about so-and-so vaccine and we should give them a small deadline so they could see that it has no effects on the person. Or, if it does have bad effects on the person, then scrap it.

For example, some people have doubts that when there will be a COVID vaccine, it will be produced so quickly that there would be a mistake. Therefore, make it mandatory, but with some time (I.E.) to see what the effects will be on the volunteers eager to become immune already.

[The Slayers Republic]

Yes, but after a certain deadline, I.E. a month. Some people may haven doubts about so-and-so vaccine and we should give them a small deadline so they could see that it has no effects on the person. Or, if it does have bad effects on the person, then scrap it.

For example, some people have doubts that when there will be a COVID vaccine, it will be produced so quickly that there would be a mistake. Therefore, make it mandatory, but with some time (I.E.) to see what the effects will be on the volunteers eager to become immune already.

This.


For a YEC(young earth creationist) you're pretty pragmatic.

[Victorious Decepticons]

It does seem to be the way to go but I have some stipulations. A more conservative approach should be taken for people's safety. I'd say it's illegitimate if any mandatory vaccines haven't been around for at least 10 years and haven't been sufficiently vetted in terms of testing. Any vaccines that're too new or experimental should be optional.

This. I will happily get a polio vaccine but I am not touching a covid vaccine at least for a few years. No I dont think bill gates is microchipping us for the nsa or some dumb shit. I simply think that 6~ months is absurdly quick to develope a "safe" vaccine and begin human trials. Especially with so much potential profit for being first.

If these corporation sign some sort acceptance of liability with legit reprocussions id consider it.

I cosign these, except for the liability part. While it would be a bit of a confidence booster if the companies didn't shield themselves, the fact is that the only way to know if something's going to bite people in the butt is to wait a few years and see what happens.

Sometimes it does take years, not mere months, for bad side-effects to fully appear from new vaccines and other medical treatments. Even if politics wasn't an issue, I wouldn't touch some beta version vaccine with a barge pole. This is doubly true when the vaccine is rushed out in a panic, as is in process with the one(s) for COVID, but I'd still be leery even if it involved a new miracle shot against the common cold. The initial release of anything is always more like an open beta than a true production version, and I'll be having none of that.

Meanwhile, I have high levels of faith that the vaccines that have been around for a long time won't make me sicker (beyond some transient fatigue for a couple of days, which I usually do get whenever I get vaxxed for something). I also have good faith that they will work.

With that in mind, I would not oppose mandatory vaccinations as long as the vaccines have been out for 5-10 years, but would heavily oppose and actively try to circumvent any regulation intended to make me take a "version 1.0" variety.

[Geneviev]

I'm incredibly grateful for vaccines and wouldn't care if they were made mandatory. That being said, if a vaccine is released before it's ready for political reasons, I would be much more hesitant to take that vaccine for my own safety and that should not be mandatory.

Certainly, politics is a reason to be concerned.

Yes. That's the problem that I would have with a covid vaccine that just so happens to come out the day before the election. I wouldn't trust it, even though I am strongly pro-vaccine, unless I see real doctors support it.

[Disgraces]

Yes

[Greed and Death]

Certainly, politics is a reason to be concerned.

Yes. That's the problem that I would have with a covid vaccine that just so happens to come out the day before the election. I wouldn't trust it, even though I am strongly pro-vaccine, unless I see real doctors support it.

Failure to take the vaccine will have your vote voided.

[Albrenia]

Yes. That's the problem that I would have with a covid vaccine that just so happens to come out the day before the election. I wouldn't trust it, even though I am strongly pro-vaccine, unless I see real doctors support it.

Failure to take the vaccine will have your vote voided.

The Mark of having your vaccine will be placed as a tattoo on your left hand or forehead. They'll also refuse access to all markets and areas of commerce to those without said Mark...

I don't know why but I always love playing up the whole Mark of the Beast angle about conspiracy theories.

[Kiu Ghesik]

Failure to take the vaccine will have your vote voided.

The Mark of having your vaccine will be placed as a tattoo on your left hand or forehead. They'll also refuse access to all markets and areas of commerce to those without said Mark...

I don't know why but I always love playing up the whole Mark of the Beast angle about conspiracy theories.

Dude, the people who think the vaccine's the Mark of the Beast genuinely make me want to die. It EXPLICITLY SAYS in John's divine trip that you'll know the Mark is the Mark. It's not going to be smuggled into your monthly Sorosbux shipment or some shit.

[Magical Medical League]

Dude, the people who think the vaccine's the Mark of the Beast genuinely make me want to die. It EXPLICITLY SAYS in John's divine trip that you'll know the Mark is the Mark. It's not going to be smuggled into your monthly Sorosbux shipment or some shit.

Your antifa card has been revoked for leaking the secret about SOROSBUX^TM

[Magical Medical League]

Also, I'm so happy how everyone here loves BTS

[United Hemand Insia]

Do you believe that vaccines are causing it?

No, but if they are, who cares? Autism is not bad. The people who are afraid of vaccines because they think it will give their kids autism? Kinda reveals that they have a sh*tty opinion of autism. People who are "on the spectrum" are not any less human because of it, or less valuable as people. Any belief to the contrary is disgusting.

Autistic people are some of the smartest people on the planet. A kid in my grade that has autism has memorized the first story of "The Cat and the Hat" and can read it to you without the book. They are also the most straightforward people with facts and opinions, which in my opinion is a advantage when it comes to things such as politics and all that pointless crap that I spend too much time arguing with people about.

[United Hemand Insia]

Also, I'm so happy how everyone here loves BTS

I don't but I don't think they are a vaccine, are they?

[Magical Medical League]

Also, I'm so happy how everyone here loves BTS

I don't but I don't think they are a vaccine, are they?

They're a vaccine for my heart

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

The Mark of having your vaccine will be placed as a tattoo on your left hand or forehead. They'll also refuse access to all markets and areas of commerce to those without said Mark...

I don't know why but I always love playing up the whole Mark of the Beast angle about conspiracy theories.

Dude, the people who think the vaccine's the Mark of the Beast genuinely make me want to die. It EXPLICITLY SAYS in John's divine trip that you'll know the Mark is the Mark. It's not going to be smuggled into your monthly Sorosbux shipment or some shit.

"John's Divine Trip"

makes me want to read my bible, i feel v. conflicted.

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

vaccines should be mandatory, but anti-vaxxers shouldn't be shot with vaccine darts while unawares or sent to prison or smth. i like how public schools in the us require vaccinations for a child to enroll to a certain grade. if private schools were required to do this as well, almost all children would be vaccinated. don't know how this could be applied to home-schooled kids, though.

[Magical Medical League]

vaccines should be mandatory, but anti-vaxxers shouldn't be shot with vaccine darts while unawares or sent to prison or smth. i like how public schools in the us require vaccinations for a child to enroll to a certain grade. if private schools were required to do this as well, almost all children would be vaccinated. don't know how this could be applied to home-schooled kids, though.

Create free childcare and post-natal leave, then deny it for those who don't vaccinate.

[Destyntine]

You can't force anyone to do Vaccinations, even though they ABSOLUTELY should.
Children, you can though.

I agree with this. If people do not want to get vaccinated then that is on them. It is their own life on the line. Parents do deserve authority over their children and should get them vaccinated, although I'm neutral towards children because of the lack of infection among anyone under 18. I honestly believe we should prioritize the elderly due to the high risk factor.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer or a pro-vaxxer, I just honestly believe people should have their own civil rights to refuse a vaccine even if science proves their information to be incorrect.

[Geneviev]

You can't force anyone to do Vaccinations, even though they ABSOLUTELY should.
Children, you can though.

I agree with this. If people do not want to get vaccinated then that is on them. It is their own life on the line. Parents do deserve authority over their children and should get them vaccinated, although I'm neutral towards children because of the lack of infection among anyone under 18. I honestly believe we should prioritize the elderly due to the high risk factor.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer or a pro-vaxxer, I just honestly believe people should have their own civil rights to refuse a vaccine even if science proves their information to be incorrect.

I believe this thread is about all vaccines.