MAGAThread XX: A Journal of the Plague Year

[Albrenia]

Anyone who has to be shoved into condemning white supremacy clearly either is trying to win their votes or actively supports them.

It takes Trump a week and alot of arguing before he reluctantly condemns white supremacy.

The demand that Trump continuously condemn white supremacy is entirely an attempt to smear him by suggesting that he's done something that would make it nessicarry for him to do so.

It would be nice if it wasn't like pulling teeth though. It's not hard to say "I condemn in the strongest terms all parts of white supremacy", and to not follow it up with "many sides, many sides".

If they ask him to do it again, so what? It's like ten seconds to say, and people will stop asking about it when the public get annoyed at the journalists instead of Trump.

[Vassenor]

The demand that Trump continuously condemn white supremacy is entirely an attempt to smear him by suggesting that he's done something that would make it nessicarry for him to do so.

It would be nice if it wasn't like pulling teeth though. It's not hard to say "I condemn in the strongest terms all parts of white supremacy", and to not follow it up with "many sides, many sides".

If they ask him to do it again, so what? It's like ten seconds to say, and people will stop asking about it when the public get annoyed at the journalists instead of Trump.

Also apparently people get annoyed if we expect him to do more than just make token performative efforts to condemn it.

[Aclion]

The demand that Trump continuously condemn white supremacy is entirely an attempt to smear him by suggesting that he's done something that would make it nessicarry for him to do so.

It would be nice if it wasn't like pulling teeth though. It's not hard to say "I condemn in the strongest terms all parts of white supremacy", and to not follow it up with "many sides, many sides".

If they ask him to do it again, so what? It's like ten seconds to say, and people will stop asking about it when the public get annoyed at the journalists instead of Trump.

Except thats not what he said, according to factcheck.org this whole Trump won't condemn white supremacy this is a misinformation campaign.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

It would be nice if it wasn't like pulling teeth though. It's not hard to say "I condemn in the strongest terms all parts of white supremacy", and to not follow it up with "many sides, many sides".

If they ask him to do it again, so what? It's like ten seconds to say, and people will stop asking about it when the public get annoyed at the journalists instead of Trump.

Except thats not what he said, according to factcheck.org this whole Trump won't condemn white supremacy this is a misinformation campaign.

But it's not. Remember the debate?

[Albrenia]

It would be nice if it wasn't like pulling teeth though. It's not hard to say "I condemn in the strongest terms all parts of white supremacy", and to not follow it up with "many sides, many sides".

If they ask him to do it again, so what? It's like ten seconds to say, and people will stop asking about it when the public get annoyed at the journalists instead of Trump.

Except thats not what he said, according to factcheck.org this whole Trump won't condemn white supremacy this is a misinformation campaign.

I've acknowledged in the past that he has, on occasion, condemned white supremacy. As recently as the town hall thing that happened instead of the second debate.

The problem is it took like five minutes of him wriggling around like a worm on a hook to eventually just say the words, and was immediately followed by claims of ignorance of what QAnon is, even after it was explained to him in the unlikely case that he was truly unknowing of them.

It's not hard to condemn bad things. Even if asked about them annoyingly often.

[Diahon]

In my opinion, these patriots did nothing wrong. Instead, the FBI & Justice should be investigating the terrorists, anarchists, and agitators of ANTIFA, who run around burning down our Democrat run cities and hurting our people!

these "patriots", by the way, were the punks who tried to run a biden/harris campaign bus off the road in texas

[Albrenia]

In my opinion, these patriots did nothing wrong. Instead, the FBI & Justice should be investigating the terrorists, anarchists, and agitators of ANTIFA, who run around burning down our Democrat run cities and hurting our people!

these "patriots", by the way, were the punks who tried to run a biden/harris campaign bus off the road in texas

They should at least spend some time in court for dangerous driving and harassment.

[Cultural Posadism]

In my opinion, these patriots did nothing wrong. Instead, the FBI & Justice should be investigating the terrorists, anarchists, and agitators of ANTIFA, who run around burning down our Democrat run cities and hurting our people!

these "patriots", by the way, were the punks who tried to run a biden/harris campaign bus off the road in texas

I want someone to ask Trump the exact figures of how much of those Democrat-run cities has apparently been burned down. He and his cultists make it sound like Portland should be a smouldering, uninhabitable ruin by now.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

In my opinion, these patriots did nothing wrong. Instead, the FBI & Justice should be investigating the terrorists, anarchists, and agitators of ANTIFA, who run around burning down our Democrat run cities and hurting our people!

these "patriots", by the way, were the punks who tried to run a biden/harris campaign bus off the road in texas

This now convinced me thoroughly that Trump will openly call for violence if he loses.

[Eukaryotic Cells]

In my opinion, these patriots did nothing wrong. Instead, the FBI & Justice should be investigating the terrorists, anarchists, and agitators of ANTIFA, who run around burning down our Democrat run cities and hurting our people!

these "patriots", by the way, were the punks who tried to run a biden/harris campaign bus off the road in texas

Really good to see the President encouraging everyone to remain calm. He's totally not stirring the hornet's nest.

[The Black Forrest]

He took steps against it in Russia while refusing to renounce david duke's endorsement at home.

Never forget, "proud boys stand back and stand by." His whole campaign has basically been a campaign of racism.

Got more fake news you've bought into?

The proud boys were the ones protesting at Charlottesville?

What about his shared tweet of the people harassing the Biden bus with a comment of I love Texas?

Have you noticed Trump has yet to name any of the known shooting victims? He is more concerned about the “rioters”

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Except thats not what he said, according to factcheck.org this whole Trump won't condemn white supremacy this is a misinformation campaign.

I've acknowledged in the past that he has, on occasion, condemned white supremacy. As recently as the town hall thing that happened instead of the second debate.

The problem is it took like five minutes of him wriggling around like a worm on a hook to eventually just say the words, and was immediately followed by claims of ignorance of what QAnon is, even after it was explained to him in the unlikely case that he was truly unknowing of them.

It's not hard to condemn bad things. Even if asked about them annoyingly often.

Politicians are generally accommodating of the media's imperative to all have their own version of the leader's statements. Refusing to answer the question because it's been asked before, is not a good option until it's been asked a dozen times, and it's even taken as "I really mean this, I don't mind saying it over and over".

Trump however, made one good clear statement against white supremacists. It was obviously a prepared speech, but that would be fine if he could answer questions on it later. But it turns out he couldn't. It's just too obvious that he wants their votes and the votes of racists and far-right who he thinks he would lose if he condemned in his own words their affiliated white supremacists.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

He took steps against it in Russia while refusing to renounce david duke's endorsement at home.

Never forget, "proud boys stand back and stand by." His whole campaign has basically been a campaign of racism.

Got more fake news you've bought into?

https://youtu.be/JZk6VzSLe4Y

You mean like this? Or maybe you mean the "fake news" about when Trump accused thousands of arab americans of cheering on 9/11.

Why don't you try to fool us into thinking Trump supporters didn't vote for the CEO of racism. See if it works this time.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

these "patriots", by the way, were the punks who tried to run a biden/harris campaign bus off the road in texas

Really good to see the President encouraging everyone to remain calm. He's totally not stirring the hornet's nest.

The likelihood he says "fucking riot, i don't care" if he loses just shot up.

[The Black Forrest]

Really good to see the President encouraging everyone to remain calm. He's totally not stirring the hornet's nest.

The likelihood he says "fucking riot, i don't care" if he loses just shot up.

He has kind of prepped with all the “If I lose; it was due to cheating” talk.

Then again; he my hold off for a little when he can get Trump TV going.

[Nakena]

The likelihood he says "fucking riot, i don't care" if he loses just shot up.

He has kind of prepped with all the “If I lose; it was due to cheating” talk.

Then again; he my hold off for a little when he can get Trump TV going.

If he looses the Democrats will attempt to throw him in jail. Winning is pretty much his only chance to keep walking as a free man within US jurisdiction. Should he loose and not able to get some deal out of his way, i'd expect him to flee into exile.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

He has kind of prepped with all the “If I lose; it was due to cheating” talk.

Then again; he my hold off for a little when he can get Trump TV going.

If he looses the Democrats will attempt to throw him in jail. Winning is pretty much his only chance to keep walking as a free man within US jurisdiction. Should he loose and not able to get some deal out of his way, i'd expect him to flee into exile.

Trump will still be President for more than 2 months, even if he loses. He'd hardly be "fleeing" but we'd know it was happening because he'd liquidate assets.

The President can resign by mail. Seems like the Constitutional Critters thought of everything ...

[Diahon]

If he looses the Democrats will attempt to throw him in jail. Winning is pretty much his only chance to keep walking as a free man within US jurisdiction. Should he loose and not able to get some deal out of his way, i'd expect him to flee into exile.

Trump will still be President for more than 2 months, even if he loses. He'd hardly be "fleeing" but we'd know it was happening because he'd liquidate assets.

The President can resign by mail. Seems like the Constitutional Critters thought of everything ...

that would be admitting he lost, and his ego can't have that and still have the united states stand there like a winner, instead of a girl he grabbed the hell out of for four years running

so either he wins cleanly, he goes all-out assad and reigns over ruins, or he turns the world into nuclear cinders

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Trump will still be President for more than 2 months, even if he loses. He'd hardly be "fleeing" but we'd know it was happening because he'd liquidate assets.

The President can resign by mail. Seems like the Constitutional Critters thought of everything ...

that would be admitting he lost, and his ego can't have that and still have the united states stand there like a winner, instead of a girl he grabbed the hell out of for four years running

so either he wins cleanly, he goes all-out assad and reigns over ruins, or he turns the world into nuclear cinders

He will still have more than two months to think about it. The latter two options involve a fair chance of him dying, I doubt he'd take that risk.

[Albrenia]

Hopefully he'll make up some self-serving narrative that lets him say he was robbed, and just leave the country before his caretaker period is up. The man has a pretty decent talent at just making shit up to make himself feel like a winner.

[Page]

He has kind of prepped with all the “If I lose; it was due to cheating” talk.

Then again; he my hold off for a little when he can get Trump TV going.

If he looses the Democrats will attempt to throw him in jail. Winning is pretty much his only chance to keep walking as a free man within US jurisdiction. Should he loose and not able to get some deal out of his way, i'd expect him to flee into exile.

The Democrats are not going to try to throw him in jail. A President will never let an ex-President be punished because all Presidents commit heinous crimes and they know if they set a precedent they will be next. If it even got so far as to go to court, which is almost certainly won't, Biden would certainly pardon him, just like Ford pardoned Nixon, just like Obama refused to prosecute a single war criminal of the Bush regime.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Hopefully he'll make up some self-serving narrative that lets him say he was robbed, and just leave the country before his caretaker period is up. The man has a pretty decent talent at just making shit up to make himself feel like a winner.

There's a pretty good chance Biden will give Trump a general pardon. The problem with announcing that in advance is that then there will be no investigations, which if fruitful would strengthen Biden's legitimacy by comparison.

If I were Biden, I'd thread the needle thus: "I will pardon mr. Trump if he is convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment or execution" ... without saying "promptly"

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Jimmy Lai: US President Donald Trump "plays hardball" with Beijing, Biden "not as strong."

The main takeaway I got from his remarks is that even if Biden wins, it won't necessarily spell Armageddon for us in the Asia-Pacific. I just hope he's right because Trump's chances are looking increasingly slim by the day. 100,000 coronavirus cases is not something to be proud of. I got a real bad feeling about how the result will turn out.

[The Alma Mater]

He has kind of prepped with all the “If I lose; it was due to cheating” talk.

Then again; he my hold off for a little when he can get Trump TV going.

If he looses the Democrats will attempt to throw him in jail. Winning is pretty much his only chance to keep walking as a free man within US jurisdiction. Should he loose and not able to get some deal out of his way, i'd expect him to flee into exile.

The democrats do not want the precedent of jailing a former president.
Of course, Trumps debtors may want him to start paying up - which may be worse for him.

[Albrenia]

If he looses the Democrats will attempt to throw him in jail. Winning is pretty much his only chance to keep walking as a free man within US jurisdiction. Should he loose and not able to get some deal out of his way, i'd expect him to flee into exile.

The democrats do not want the precedent of jailing a former president.
Of course, Trumps debtors may want him to start paying up - which may be worse for him.

I'm not sure if the unwritten protections of former presidents apply to Trump. He broke so many of the unspoken rules of office, that he may not be deemed worthy of receiving the whole 'what happens if office stays in office' which they usually get.

Then again, maybe Dems will turn out to be the 'better man' and let him crawl away unpunished.