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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:35 am

The Dutch Workers Union wrote:
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That's still better than electing a president who is subservient to them.



The People Of The United States were to chose between some outsider who had no previous political experience, which could have been good or bad in which way you looked at it- or someone who wanted to go to war with Russia and set up a NFZ in Syria. Neither options were good, but I believe that the Trump Presidency despite it's flaws would still be better than a Clinton One

The people of the US chose Clinton. A fluke in the system chose Trump.

Clinton did not want war with Russia. That claim was just false; made up after she called for a no-fly zone above Syria with the explicit cooperation of Russia. Then alt-right trolls took her words out of context and extrapolated it to the absurd.

Meanwhile, Trump is a racist transphobic dickhead, and this was known well before the election.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:47 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
The Dutch Workers Union wrote:

The People Of The United States were to chose between some outsider who had no previous political experience, which could have been good or bad in which way you looked at it- or someone who wanted to go to war with Russia and set up a NFZ in Syria. Neither options were good, but I believe that the Trump Presidency despite it's flaws would still be better than a Clinton One

The people of the US chose Clinton. A fluke in the system chose Trump.

Clinton did not want war with Russia. That claim was just false; made up after she called for a no-fly zone above Syria with the explicit cooperation of Russia. Then alt-right trolls took her words out of context and extrapolated it to the absurd.

Meanwhile, Trump is a racist transphobic dickhead, and this was known well before the election.


The people of the US chose Trump. Just because you don't like the way we decided to hold elections, doesn't mean that's not how we chose to do it.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:49 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The people of the US chose Clinton. A fluke in the system chose Trump.

Clinton did not want war with Russia. That claim was just false; made up after she called for a no-fly zone above Syria with the explicit cooperation of Russia. Then alt-right trolls took her words out of context and extrapolated it to the absurd.

Meanwhile, Trump is a racist transphobic dickhead, and this was known well before the election.


The people of the US chose Trump. Just because you don't like the way we decided to hold elections, doesn't mean that's not how we chose to do it.


Actually; in general voting Clinton had 3 million more votes. Trump won the EC. He didn’t win the popular vote which is funny in that he was bugged by this.
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Esalia
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Postby Esalia » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:50 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The people of the US chose Clinton. A fluke in the system chose Trump.

Clinton did not want war with Russia. That claim was just false; made up after she called for a no-fly zone above Syria with the explicit cooperation of Russia. Then alt-right trolls took her words out of context and extrapolated it to the absurd.

Meanwhile, Trump is a racist transphobic dickhead, and this was known well before the election.


The people of the US chose Trump. Just because you don't like the way we decided to hold elections, doesn't mean that's not how we chose to do it.


I mean, Clinton won the popular vote. You can 100% make the case that, since more Americans went for Clinton, "the people of the US" chose Clinton.
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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:55 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:The people of the US chose Clinton. A fluke in the system chose Trump.

Clinton did not want war with Russia. That claim was just false; made up after she called for a no-fly zone above Syria with the explicit cooperation of Russia. Then alt-right trolls took her words out of context and extrapolated it to the absurd.

Meanwhile, Trump is a racist transphobic dickhead, and this was known well before the election.


The people of the US chose Trump. Just because you don't like the way we decided to hold elections, doesn't mean that's not how we chose to do it.

Well, yes, legally, it’s how you chose to do it. By law, he is president. However, more people wanted Clinton, and in a democracy, that should have counted for something.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:56 am

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-envir ... ray-wolves

Interior department has ended all endangered species protections for gray wolves.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:01 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/523406-interior-ends-endangered-species-protections-for-gray-wolves

Interior department has ended all endangered species protections for gray wolves.


I guess don jr needs to kill stuff.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:04 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
The people of the US chose Trump. Just because you don't like the way we decided to hold elections, doesn't mean that's not how we chose to do it.

Well, yes, legally, it’s how you chose to do it. By law, he is president. However, more people wanted Clinton, and in a democracy, that should have counted for something.

Hopefully hes loses both the Popular vote and electoral college. No president has ever lost the popular vote twice.

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Postby Kowani » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/523406-interior-ends-endangered-species-protections-for-gray-wolves

Interior department has ended all endangered species protections for gray wolves.

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Well, yes, legally, it’s how you chose to do it. By law, he is president. However, more people wanted Clinton, and in a democracy, that should have counted for something.

Hopefully hes loses both the Popular vote and electoral college. No president has ever lost the popular vote twice.


That's because only five presidents have lost the popular vote and became president in the first place. Of those, three sought re-election, Harrison lost so G.W. Bush is the only successful president to bounce back from losing the popular vote. So you're wrong, Harrison lost the popular vote twice.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:14 pm

Kowani wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/523406-interior-ends-endangered-species-protections-for-gray-wolves

Interior department has ended all endangered species protections for gray wolves.

"They're very bad boys"

The lack of caring for the environment by Trump is truly astounding and its one of the main reasons I won't vote GOP.

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Postby Kowani » Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:18 pm

How many of you remember the "Access Hollywood" tape? If the answer is "yes", you're more knowledgable than Senator Loeffler.
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:15 am

Kowani wrote:How many of you remember the "Access Hollywood" tape? If the answer is "yes", you're more knowledgable than Senator Loeffler.


Yes. She likely knows but you know, got to be on Trump's side or else you're screwed.
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:03 am

The number is almost nothing: Don Jr. dismisses Coronavirus deaths.

This was last night when he said this. Yesterday, roughly 90,000 new confirmed cases and 1,000 deaths were reported. Yeah, not only are we not rounding the corner, but alt-reality being pushed by Trump, his family, and cronies is bound to get more people killed, especially among those that only listen to the President. It's also rather stupid to say when a majority of Americans don't support your handling of the Pandemic. This ship is sinking but is racing to port to get repaired in hopes it can stay afloat.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:04 am

Zurkerx wrote:The number is almost nothing: Don Jr. dismisses Coronavirus deaths.

This was last night when he said this. Yesterday, roughly 90,000 new confirmed cases and 1,000 deaths were reported. Yeah, not only are we not rounding the corner, but alt-reality being pushed by Trump, his family, and cronies is bound to get more people killed, especially among those that only listen to the President. It's also rather stupid to say when a majority of Americans don't support your handling of the Pandemic. This ship is sinking but is racing to port to get repaired in hopes it can stay afloat.


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Postby Rusozak » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:03 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:The number is almost nothing: Don Jr. dismisses Coronavirus deaths.

This was last night when he said this. Yesterday, roughly 90,000 new confirmed cases and 1,000 deaths were reported. Yeah, not only are we not rounding the corner, but alt-reality being pushed by Trump, his family, and cronies is bound to get more people killed, especially among those that only listen to the President. It's also rather stupid to say when a majority of Americans don't support your handling of the Pandemic. This ship is sinking but is racing to port to get repaired in hopes it can stay afloat.


Reason #4894959394939499394939493 as to why Trump deserves to lose the election and lose bigly.


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Postby Esalia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:13 am

Zurkerx wrote:The number is almost nothing: Don Jr. dismisses Coronavirus deaths.

This was last night when he said this. Yesterday, roughly 90,000 new confirmed cases and 1,000 deaths were reported. Yeah, not only are we not rounding the corner, but alt-reality being pushed by Trump, his family, and cronies is bound to get more people killed, especially among those that only listen to the President. It's also rather stupid to say when a majority of Americans don't support your handling of the Pandemic. This ship is sinking but is racing to port to get repaired in hopes it can stay afloat.


Ladies and gentlemen, the son of the president illustrating the fact that this fucking administration literally doesn't care.

1,000 daily is "almost nothing". A 9/11's worth of deaths every three days. "Almost nothing".

Fuck him.
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:15 pm

Zurkerx wrote:The number is almost nothing: Don Jr. dismisses Coronavirus deaths.

This was last night when he said this. Yesterday, roughly 90,000 new confirmed cases and 1,000 deaths were reported. Yeah, not only are we not rounding the corner, but alt-reality being pushed by Trump, his family, and cronies is bound to get more people killed, especially among those that only listen to the President. It's also rather stupid to say when a majority of Americans don't support your handling of the Pandemic. This ship is sinking but is racing to port to get repaired in hopes it can stay afloat.

In ordinary times, this appearance alone would have sunk the sitting president.

Now, it won't move the needle an inch.
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:16 pm

Wilbur Ross served on the board of a Chinese joint venture until 2019. In other words, while helping run the Trade War, the Commerce Secretary was partnered with a Chinese state-owned enterprise.
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Postby Esalia » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:18 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:The number is almost nothing: Don Jr. dismisses Coronavirus deaths.

This was last night when he said this. Yesterday, roughly 90,000 new confirmed cases and 1,000 deaths were reported. Yeah, not only are we not rounding the corner, but alt-reality being pushed by Trump, his family, and cronies is bound to get more people killed, especially among those that only listen to the President. It's also rather stupid to say when a majority of Americans don't support your handling of the Pandemic. This ship is sinking but is racing to port to get repaired in hopes it can stay afloat.

In ordinary times, this appearance alone would have sunk the sitting president.

Now, it won't move the needle an inch.


Welcome to modern America, where stating that 1,000 deaths a day is "almost nothing" and pretending that a pandemic is over as it just keeps getting worse isn't grounds for instant pariah status.
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:33 pm

Esalia wrote:
Gravlen wrote:In ordinary times, this appearance alone would have sunk the sitting president.

Now, it won't move the needle an inch.


Welcome to modern America, where stating that 1,000 deaths a day is "almost nothing" and pretending that a pandemic is over as it just keeps getting worse isn't grounds for instant pariah status.

Or saying that doctors get paid for Covid deaths.

$2,000 per death. He doesn't bother making up who's paying it or why, but... :blink:
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Postby Aclion » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/523406-interior-ends-endangered-species-protections-for-gray-wolves

Interior department has ended all endangered species protections for gray wolves.

His is good though. The grey wolf is rated least concern by the IUCN. I get criticizing the delisting of a species if is vulnerable, but this is a culmination of decades of conservation efforts. Its something that should be celebrated.
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Postby Diahon » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:07 pm

Zurkerx wrote:The number is almost nothing: Don Jr. dismisses Coronavirus deaths.

This was last night when he said this. Yesterday, roughly 90,000 new confirmed cases and 1,000 deaths were reported. Yeah, not only are we not rounding the corner, but alt-reality being pushed by Trump, his family, and cronies is bound to get more people killed, especially among those that only listen to the President. It's also rather stupid to say when a majority of Americans don't support your handling of the Pandemic. This ship is sinking but is racing to port to get repaired in hopes it can stay afloat.


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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:38 pm

Aclion wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/523406-interior-ends-endangered-species-protections-for-gray-wolves

Interior department has ended all endangered species protections for gray wolves.

His is good though. The grey wolf is rated least concern by the IUCN. I get criticizing the delisting of a species if is vulnerable, but this is a culmination of decades of conservation efforts. Its something that should be celebrated.


The grey wolf is still not present across its former range, so unless it's actually over-breeding somewhere and starving for lack of its natural prey, it should remain protected. The idea that citizens are allowed to hunt anything that's not specifically protected, is incredibly bad environmental management: it would make a lot more sense to issue temporary licenses, only for specific areas where a species has over-bred. It would be more of a challenge for one thing (more like a real sport) and by killing one animal you'd have the satisfaction that you're making all other animals of its species a little better off. Well unless their name is Bambi.
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Postby Aclion » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:25 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Aclion wrote:His is good though. The grey wolf is rated least concern by the IUCN. I get criticizing the delisting of a species if is vulnerable, but this is a culmination of decades of conservation efforts. Its something that should be celebrated.


The grey wolf is still not present across its former range, so unless it's actually over-breeding somewhere and starving for lack of its natural prey, it should remain protected. The idea that citizens are allowed to hunt anything that's not specifically protected, is incredibly bad environmental management: it would make a lot more sense to issue temporary licenses, only for specific areas where a species has over-bred. It would be more of a challenge for one thing (more like a real sport) and by killing one animal you'd have the satisfaction that you're making all other animals of its species a little better off. Well unless their name is Bambi.

What you suggested is basically how the US manages hunting. With the addional detail that fees for licenses are the primary source of funds for conservation.
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