MAGAThread XX: A Journal of the Plague Year

[Cordel One]

Just to all those who cheer the impending end of this thread (which is really redundant since we already have an US thread) and the banning of Trump from Twitter and the end of his desastrous Presidency etc. This is my last post in this thread:

The historical situation, conditions and environment that brought Trump into existence as political figure and allowed for his rise to power in the USA are all the more present than they were when he came to power in 2016.

You can be cheer all you want that Jack Dorsey has freed you from the compulsive obsessive urge to check out his Twitter feed and be outraged over his blatant nonsense and bullshit and that hes out of sight for the time being.

Its a folly. He's not cause but symptom of bigger problems and crisis. As long as those causes are not addressed and keep being ignored the symptoms will persist. Trump was good in casting a spotlight upon all those things. Things a lot of people prefer to not look at, things you'd pretend that dont exist. Trump brought them to the light. And thats what you hated him for.

But he was, in a way, (initially at least) necessary to reveal all those things and expose the true state of things and rub it into your face.

Well said. Trump isn't the disease, he's a symptom. Biden may be less incompetent and impulsive than Trump, but he still drafted the PATRIOT Act, voted against legalizing gay marriage, and supported the Iraq War. The US is still gonna be terrible, but now liberals can have a few more years of brunch before the problems they helped create explode yet again.

[Ranoria]

Not really. He’s been (unjustly) banned from social media basically, so he doesn’t exactly have an avenue to make any speeches or statements or whatever.

He couldn't help himself and kept fanning the flames during a riot. They had to ban him.

You mean when he clearly said he wanted a peaceful protest?

Meanwhile, during the riots in Portland, Seattle, etc...
Kamala Harris: Protestors should not let up! (Ik, she said protestors. At the same time, that was the rhetoric being spread. There were riots. Wanna talk about fanning the flames?)
Nancy Pelosi: "I Don't Even Know Why There Aren't Uprisings All Over The Country. Maybe there will be.”

As opposed to Trump, who very clearly wanted the protest to be peaceful. I get you all hate Trump but you have an extremely weak argument here.

"I know your pain, I know you're hurt. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace."
“I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence!”

If you want to base your argument around claims of fraud, it’s still a weak argument. He never called for violence. He clearly condemned it soon after once he was allowed to by big tech, and he called for a peaceful protest. That said, don’t take this for me apologizing for the shitheads who did riot at the Capitol. They need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

[The Alma Mater]

No. He will continue to be an actor on the streets and direct his trumpian army and MAGA cohorts in many states around the US and possibly beyond. No longer bound by the limits of office he can go all out and on the rampage.

Not really. He’s been (unjustly) banned from social media basically, so he doesn’t exactly have an avenue to make any speeches or statements or whatever.

Rightright. Because not a single tv station would broadcast his speeches. Not a single website would be willing to stream them. No publisher would be willing to publish his books.

He has plenty of avenues.

[The Eridani Imperium]

The MAGA Times draw to a close and with them, this thread. How about noon on Wednesday, more or less?

It's the end of an era.

Not an era I'm sad to see go, though.

Regardless - congratulations, everyone! We made it through the term without splintering the country into a million pieces, or getting too many people killed! Let's see if we can make it a few more hours, yeah?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

He couldn't help himself and kept fanning the flames during a riot. They had to ban him.

You mean when he clearly said he wanted a peaceful protest?

When you spend 4 minutes talking about how rigged an election was and 5 seconds saying "go home in peace," are you really calling for peace? His bullshit was fanning the flames that HE STARTED to begin with with his "we're gonna walk down to the capitol speech," so they shut his ass up before he could cause the death of a couple congressmen.

[Necroghastia]

He couldn't help himself and kept fanning the flames during a riot. They had to ban him.

You mean when he clearly said he wanted a peaceful protest?

Meanwhile, during the riots in Portland, Seattle, etc...
Kamala Harris: Protestors should not let up! (Ik, she said protestors. At the same time, that was the rhetoric being spread. There were riots. Wanna talk about fanning the flames?)
Nancy Pelosi: "I Don't Even Know Why There Aren't Uprisings All Over The Country. Maybe there will be.”

As opposed to Trump, who very clearly wanted the protest to be peaceful. I get you all hate Trump but you have an extremely weak argument here.

"I know your pain, I know you're hurt. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace."
“I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence!”

If you want to base your argument around claims of fraud, it’s still a weak argument. He never called for violence. He clearly condemned it soon after once he was allowed to by big tech, and he called for a peaceful protest. That said, don’t take this for me apologizing for the shitheads who did riot at the Capitol. They need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Because telling people to march to the Capitol and "fight like hell" is calling for a peaceful protest.

[New haven america]

What good ending?

We're just gonna have another malicious Rep pop up in 4-8 years and erase any and all work the Dems have done to fix the bs Trump caused. As is not the current trend, The Reps ruin everything, The Dems come in a clean The Reps shit, The Reps come back again and fuck up everything, rinse and repeat ad nauseum.

You have to be monstrously uninformed on the state of the world to believe that.

You have to be monstrously ignorant to modern US history to question my statement.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

You have to be monstrously ignorant to modern US history to question my statement.

You're literally from Argentine bro, weird flex there to try that one.

NHA isn't argentine. I thought he's from the pacific northwest?

[New haven america]

You have to be monstrously ignorant to modern US history to question my statement.

You're literally from Argentine bro, weird flex there to try that one.

Where the fuck did you get that idea from?

[Necroghastia]

You're literally from Argentine bro, weird flex there to try that one.

Where the fuck did you get that idea from?

crap i think they figured out every left-of-hannity person on here is a puppet of liriena

[New haven america]

Where the fuck did you get that idea from?

crap i think they figured out every left-of-hannity person on here is a puppet of liriena

Well, that would explain his long absence.

He wasn't gone, he just wasn't using his main account, we're all his alts.

[New haven america]

Where the fuck did you get that idea from?

Prior posts of yours, is my understanding wrong?

Then you haven't been reading prior posts of mine, champ.

[The Alma Mater]

What good ending?

We're just gonna have another malicious Rep pop up in 4-8 years and erase any and all work the Dems have done to fix the bs Trump caused. As is not the current trend, The Reps ruin everything, The Dems come in a clean The Reps shit, The Reps come back again and fuck up everything, rinse and repeat ad nauseum.

You have to be monstrously uninformed on the state of the world to believe that.

Actually it is a reasonable accurate description of the USA. Has been for decades - Trump himself even said that.
Admittedly well before he was president, but still.

It is only reasonable though because "fixing" is relative. Under both parties the USA is a country of warmongers and invaders that does not care about its inhabitants.

[Picairn]

You know, it didn't go so well last time people started saying "end of history" sort of things.

This isn't an "end of history" proclamation, this is a declaration of a new era under Biden.

[Ranoria]

You mean when he clearly said he wanted a peaceful protest?

Meanwhile, during the riots in Portland, Seattle, etc...
Kamala Harris: Protestors should not let up! (Ik, she said protestors. At the same time, that was the rhetoric being spread. There were riots. Wanna talk about fanning the flames?)
Nancy Pelosi: "I Don't Even Know Why There Aren't Uprisings All Over The Country. Maybe there will be.”

As opposed to Trump, who very clearly wanted the protest to be peaceful. I get you all hate Trump but you have an extremely weak argument here.

"I know your pain, I know you're hurt. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace."
“I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence!”

If you want to base your argument around claims of fraud, it’s still a weak argument. He never called for violence. He clearly condemned it soon after once he was allowed to by big tech, and he called for a peaceful protest. That said, don’t take this for me apologizing for the shitheads who did riot at the Capitol. They need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Because telling people to march to the Capitol and "fight like hell" is calling for a peaceful protest.

Another quote pre-riot from Trump...“I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

Times democrats have used this rhetoric:
“Ginsburg’s legacy is that she was a champion of rights and liberties that many people take for granted, as matter or principle, I’m going to fight like hell”
-Richard Blumenthal, democrat senator. Sherrod Brown, another democrat senator, also used the words "Fight like hell."

"In the senate, democrats are going to fight like hell to make [police reform] a reality."
-Chuck Schumer, senate minority leader

"I've seen how we can beat back this festering cynicism; when we fight like hell for what is right, especially for those who need us most."
-Former Democrat representative Max Rose

"We all need to fight like hell to get as much of it done as we possibly can."
-Former democrat governor Martin O'Malley

Was that inciting violence? Diiiidn't think so. It's common political jargon. Like I said, you have an extremely weak argument here.

Trump would also later condemn the violence, saying “Mob violence goes against everything I believe in and everything our movement stands for. No true supporter of mine could truly endorse political violence.

No true supporter of mine could ever disrespect law enforcement or our great American flag. No true supporter of mine could ever threaten or harass their fellow Americans. If you do any of these things, you are not supporting our movement. You are attacking it and you are attacking our country.”

[Tarsonis]

You know, it didn't go so well last time people started saying "end of history" sort of things.

This isn't an "end of history" proclamation, this is a declaration of a new era under Biden.

The beginning of Herstory.

[The Alma Mater]

Because telling people to march to the Capitol and "fight like hell" is calling for a peaceful protest.

Another quote pre-riot from Trump...“I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

Then again, his lawyer explicitly called to hang Pence (and the Magats brought a gallows) - and his GOP cronies shared things like these online:

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

The nail in the coffin of Great Man theory. Trump was a product of his time and society, and someone else must have been a product of their own. Whilst we can celebrate Trump's exit, the values and attitudes that led him there and the subsequent Capitol coup attempt will remain. Trump will only be one man. Who is to say that Joe Biden won't go mask off?

Either way, the behaviour and attitudes of the MAGA cult will endure. The real fight is how to deal with them.

[The United Confederacy of Texas]

Oh thank God the suffering is being lessened (of course there's still the MAGA supporters to deal with)

[Gravlen]

The era of incompetence is coming to a close, and so should this thread.

400.000 deaths and an attempted coup. That was the greatest achievements of this completely disastrous presidency.

[Cannot think of a name]

Eh I'll put this here even though this thread only has an 8 hour shelf life.

I think Trump starting the Patriot Party might be a sobering reckoning of how much of that 75 million voters/support was highly conditional.

[Esalia]

Trump's presidency might be coming to an end, but I don't expect Trump, MAGA, or the things that brought Trump to power to fade into irrelevancy with it.

Still, congratulations Trump for a mediocre 3 years topped off with a year of a pandemic you fucked up and a coup you helped lay the foundations for, if not instigated directly. A memorable presidency indeed.

[Cannot think of a name]

Also, I appreciate the packages that run Trumps inaugural speech where he says that the era of American carnage is over while playing footage of his rabid supporters sacking the Capitol building.

[Kowani]

something something historic moment end of an era, grave reflection, country is doomed, grandiose prediction, weariness


did i hit all the notes?

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Trump's presidency might be coming to an end, but I don't expect Trump, MAGA, or the things that brought Trump to power to fade into irrelevancy with it.

Still, congratulations Trump for a mediocre 3 years topped off with a year of a pandemic you fucked up and a coup you helped lay the foundations for, if not instigated directly. A memorable presidency indeed.

I expect Trump to be cold shouldered by the other ex-Presidents, and the political establishment, and his popularity (such as it was) to continue to plummet. He's likely to become a sad figure, shouting incomprehensible nonsense, like a homeless wino by the side of the road. His narcissism makes him feel betrayed by America and it will look ugly to most Americans.