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Postby Chan Island » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:36 am

BTW, completely random tangent, but I've actually been reading A Journal of the Plague Year. It's by Daniel Defoe. And really entertaining. Spooky too, considering how vividly it's describing people dropping like flies.

OK, carry on. Just had to put it here because of the thread title.
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:36 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:What I’m reading is a lot of whining. That’s three chances and you can’t get off my dick and onto a coherent argument. Since no one is interested in whatever little beef you have with me, we’ll be moving on to the ignore list so this thread can move on.

Dude, if you want to run just run, your justification is not important. I just pointed out, using your argument, why the specific incident was relevant and then built into a broader point about what making excuses for violence looks like both within this thread and in the world at large, how it's clearly an issue, and how it mirrors exactly what Trump is doing and will continue to do. You are aware this happened, you're just doing the trump thing were you repeat the lie over and over and over with the hope that from the outside people see how often you say something and assume there must be something behind it.
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Postby Juristonia » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:44 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Like I said, any time you’d like to make an argument, that’d be great.


Protip: If you want to pretend you're not reading posts don't respond to them.

Protip: Can you just knock it the fuck off please?
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:48 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:What I’m reading is a lot of whining. That’s three chances and you can’t get off my dick and onto a coherent argument. Since no one is interested in whatever little beef you have with me, we’ll be moving on to the ignore list so this thread can move on.

Dude, if you want to run just run, your justification is not important. I just pointed out, using your argument, why the specific incident was relevant and then built into a broader point about what making excuses for violence looks like both within this thread and in the world at large, how it's clearly an issue, and how it mirrors exactly what Trump is doing and will continue to do. You are aware this happened, you're just doing the trump thing were you repeat the lie over and over and over with the hope that from the outside people see how often you say something and assume there must be something behind it.

Honestly, CTOAN proved my point about our collective inability to engage in honest self reflection about how we got here and the consequences thereof better than I ever could on my own.

So there is that. Let’s move on - the original point has been effectively proven by the person who was arguing against it, so it’s time for new discussions.
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Postby Minoa » Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:07 pm

Tomorrow, Joe Biden takes over from Donald Trump as commander in chief, and with it will end the MAGAThread series. My verdict on the Trump presidency? Absolutely divisive, before it all came crashing down in the aftermath of the Capitol Hill storming.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:13 pm

Minoa wrote:Tomorrow, Joe Biden takes over from Donald Trump as commander in chief, and with it will end the MAGAThread series. My verdict on the Trump presidency? Absolutely divisive, before it all came crashing down in the aftermath of the Capitol Hill storming.


No. He will continue to be an actor on the streets and direct his trumpian army and MAGA cohorts in many states around the US and possibly beyond. No longer bound by the limits of office he can go all out and on the rampage.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:13 pm

Nakena wrote:
Minoa wrote:Tomorrow, Joe Biden takes over from Donald Trump as commander in chief, and with it will end the MAGAThread series. My verdict on the Trump presidency? Absolutely divisive, before it all came crashing down in the aftermath of the Capitol Hill storming.


No. He will continue to be an actor on the streets and direct his trumpian army and MAGA cohorts in many states around the US and possibly beyond. No longer bound by the limits of office he can go all out and on the rampage.

Once out of office he'll also lose the gravity of the office or the ability to do anything BUT complain. Tarnished as the thing he hates the most, being a loser, his relevance will slowly start to circle the bowl. Especially true if some of the chickens come home to roost regarding the shit he's done.

When he has to start footing the bill his hugfests won't be as much of a thing and if the Party starts to turn away to save themselves in the next election he'll just be a has been.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:16 pm

The MAGA Times draw to a close and with them, this thread. How about noon on Wednesday, more or less?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:17 pm

Farnhamia wrote:The MAGA Times draw to a close and with them, this thread. How about noon on Wednesday, more or less?

Satisfying.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:32 pm

Farnhamia wrote:The MAGA Times draw to a close and with them, this thread. How about noon on Wednesday, more or less?

As if.
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Postby Minoa » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:33 pm

Nakena wrote:
Minoa wrote:Tomorrow, Joe Biden takes over from Donald Trump as commander in chief, and with it will end the MAGAThread series. My verdict on the Trump presidency? Absolutely divisive, before it all came crashing down in the aftermath of the Capitol Hill storming.


No. He will continue to be an actor on the streets and direct his trumpian army and MAGA cohorts in many states around the US and possibly beyond. No longer bound by the limits of office he can go all out and on the rampage.

It will be harder without Twitter, Facebook et al. It will depend on the ability of the likes of Parler and Gab to survive with hosts under increasing pressure to deny service to the extreme right, something that is very controversial due to lack of agreement on how to tackle it without causing collateral damage to legitimate uses of free speech.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:42 pm

Minoa wrote:
Nakena wrote:
No. He will continue to be an actor on the streets and direct his trumpian army and MAGA cohorts in many states around the US and possibly beyond. No longer bound by the limits of office he can go all out and on the rampage.

It will be harder without Twitter, Facebook et al. It will depend on the ability of the likes of Parler and Gab to survive with hosts under increasing pressure to deny service to the extreme right, something that is very controversial due to lack of agreement on how to tackle it without causing collateral damage to legitimate uses of free speech.

For the record Parler is now being hosted by Russian friends of Hamas.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:46 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Minoa wrote:It will be harder without Twitter, Facebook et al. It will depend on the ability of the likes of Parler and Gab to survive with hosts under increasing pressure to deny service to the extreme right, something that is very controversial due to lack of agreement on how to tackle it without causing collateral damage to legitimate uses of free speech.

For the record Parler is now being hosted by Russian friends of Hamas.

Russian Friends of Hamas sounds like an edgy 80s political punk band.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:05 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:For the record Parler is now being hosted by Russian friends of Hamas.

Russian Friends of Hamas sounds like an edgy 80s political punk band.


They lip-synced songs in live performances just to keep the Kremlin happy. 8)
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Postby Nakena » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:16 pm

Minoa wrote:
Nakena wrote:
No. He will continue to be an actor on the streets and direct his trumpian army and MAGA cohorts in many states around the US and possibly beyond. No longer bound by the limits of office he can go all out and on the rampage.

It will be harder without Twitter, Facebook et al. It will depend on the ability of the likes of Parler and Gab to survive with hosts under increasing pressure to deny service to the extreme right, something that is very controversial due to lack of agreement on how to tackle it without causing collateral damage to legitimate uses of free speech.


Theres always a way to stay somehow in touch online in one way or another and communicate to his followers.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:18 pm

Farnhamia wrote:The MAGA Times draw to a close and with them, this thread. How about noon on Wednesday, more or less?


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Postby Nakena » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:19 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The MAGA Times draw to a close and with them, this thread. How about noon on Wednesday, more or less?


Bless this post.


I doubt Trump will cease political activity on noon wednesday.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:19 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The MAGA Times draw to a close and with them, this thread. How about noon on Wednesday, more or less?


Bless this post.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:30 pm

Nakena wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Bless this post.


I doubt Trump will cease political activity on noon wednesday.


MAGA certainly won't. Now Trump's activities will be of interest especially to NY State process servers and who know who else. We might need a thread for that.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:32 pm

Just to all those who cheer the impending end of this thread (which is really redundant since we already have an US thread) and the banning of Trump from Twitter and the end of his desastrous Presidency etc. This is my last post in this thread:

The historical situation, conditions and environment that brought Trump into existence as political figure and allowed for his rise to power in the USA are all the more present than they were when he came to power in 2016.

You can be cheer all you want that Jack Dorsey has freed you from the compulsive obsessive urge to check out his Twitter feed and be outraged over his blatant nonsense and bullshit and that hes out of sight for the time being.

Its a folly. He's not cause but symptom of bigger problems and crisis. As long as those causes are not addressed and keep being ignored the symptoms will persist. Trump was good in casting a spotlight upon all those things. Things a lot of people prefer to not look at, things you'd pretend that dont exist. Trump brought them to the light. And thats what you hated him for.

But he was, in a way, (initially at least) necessary to reveal all those things and expose the true state of things and rub it into your face.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:32 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Bless this post.

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Postby Celritannia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:34 pm

Nakena wrote:Just to all those who cheer the impending end of this thread (which is really redundant since we already have an US thread) and the banning of Trump from Twitter and the end of his desastrous Presidency etc. This is my last post in this thread:

The historical situation, conditions and environment that brought Trump into existence as political figure and allowed for his rise to power in the USA are all the more present than they were when he came to power in 2016.

You can be cheer all you want that Jack Dorsey has freed you from the compulsive obsessive urge to check out his Twitter feed and be outraged over his blatant nonsense and bullshit and that hes out of sight for the time being.

Its a folly. He's not cause but symptom of bigger problems and crisis. As long as those causes are not addressed and keep being ignored the symptoms will persist. Trump was good in casting a spotlight upon all those things. Things a lot of people prefer to not look at, things you'd pretend that dont exist. Trump brought them to the light. And thats what you hated him for.

But he was, in a way, (initially at least) necessary to reveal all those things and expose the true state of things and rub it into your face.


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Postby New haven america » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:35 pm

Nakena wrote:Just to all those who cheer the impending end of this thread (which is really redundant since we already have an US thread) and the banning of Trump from Twitter and the end of his desastrous Presidency etc. This is my last post in this thread:

The historical situation, conditions and environment that brought Trump into existence as political figure and allowed for his rise to power in the USA are all the more present than they were when he came to power in 2016.

You can be cheer all you want that Jack Dorsey has freed you from the compulsive obsessive urge to check out his Twitter feed and be outraged over his blatant nonsense and bullshit and that hes out of sight for the time being.

Its a folly. He's not cause but symptom of bigger problems and crisis. As long as those causes are not addressed and keep being ignored the symptoms will persist. Trump was good in casting a spotlight upon all those things. Things a lot of people prefer to not look at, things you'd pretend that dont exist. Trump brought them to the light. And thats what you hated him for.

But he was, in a way, (initially at least) necessary to reveal all those things and expose the true state of things and rub it into your face.

No he wasn't.

Most rational people already learned this lesson under Dubya or during the Reps. stranglehold over the Senate.
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Postby Chan Island » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:36 pm

Farnhamia wrote:The MAGA Times draw to a close and with them, this thread. How about noon on Wednesday, more or less?


POV: You are on NSG looking at the good ending.
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Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:37 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The MAGA Times draw to a close and with them, this thread. How about noon on Wednesday, more or less?


POV: You are on NSG looking at the good ending.

Huh?
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Freedom ... or cake. ~ Ashmoria (RIP)
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
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Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
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