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Western Fardelshufflestein
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:24 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Honestly, all sides spew propaganda and we all pick to follow which line propaganda aligns with our values and beliefs. It's confirmation bias, yes, but it because the media is so politically charged it's what happens.

That's pretty reductive.

Probably.
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:54 pm

Is it just me or do those new rubber Biden masks look a bit like Nicolas Cage when they're flat on a table, face-up?

As for the crowd numbers, it's still early (I think?) but the numbers are smaller than I expected.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:11 pm

Albrenia wrote:Is it just me or do those new rubber Biden masks look a bit like Nicolas Cage when they're flat on a table, face-up?

As for the crowd numbers, it's still early (I think?) but the numbers are smaller than I expected.

I literally only have the USAToday article to go by saying 'tens of thousands', which seems like a lot to me. Pointless and since they're not masking up a superspreader event putting excess weight on the healthcare system when the pandemic is reaching new highs.

But whatever. They can hang out in the temporary structure they built to handle the extra cases with the people who were spinning in place last week without a mask. Maybe in times they don't have a ventilator down their throat they can gain an understanding of each other.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:15 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Honestly, all sides spew propaganda and we all pick to follow which line propaganda aligns with our values and beliefs. It's confirmation bias, yes, but it because the media is so politically charged it's what happens.

Propagandists spew on all sides? Nah.

Facts are objective. Ex: Let's look at the presidential election results. Biden decisively won the Popular vote and the Electoral vote.

Values and beliefs are subjective ideas. Ex: Breitbart conspiracy theories concerning voter fraud.

When you think facts are subjective beliefs, you have no clue about the truth. Maybe that's actually why you think propagandists spew on all sides. :eyebrow:
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:49 pm

A few very serious questions, I am not a doctor, I am not a scientist and I am not a health expert.

1 - If 2 persons or more live in a home, can a person at home affect you with the virus? If so under what circumstances?

2 - Like not wearing the masks at home with each other?

3 - Like not social distancing at home from each other?

4 - Other reasons?

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:51 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:A few very serious questions, I am not a doctor, I am not a scientist and I am not a health expert.

1 - If 2 persons or more live in a home, can a person at home affect you with the virus? If so under what circumstances?

2 - Like not wearing the masks at home with each other?

3 - Like not social distancing at home from each other?

4 - Other reasons?

Thank you all - GMS.

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Postby Tokora » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:54 pm

If things get bad for trump, is there anything to prevent him from fleeing to Russia and giving away classified information to Putin and friends?

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:09 pm

Tokora wrote:If things get bad for trump, is there anything to prevent him from fleeing to Russia and giving away classified information to Putin and friends?

He'll still have a security detail...I guess...
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:10 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Tokora wrote:If things get bad for trump, is there anything to prevent him from fleeing to Russia and giving away classified information to Putin and friends?

He'll still have a security detail...I guess...

He will, your tax dollars at work. I wonder how the Secret Service detail would react if Trump proposed a little trip to Moscow.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:31 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Honestly, all sides spew propaganda and we all pick to follow which line propaganda aligns with our values and beliefs. It's confirmation bias, yes, but it because the media is so politically charged it's what happens.

Propagandists spew on all sides? Nah.

Facts are objective. Ex: Let's look at the presidential election results. Biden decisively won the Popular vote and the Electoral vote.

Values and beliefs are subjective ideas. Ex: Breitbart conspiracy theories concerning voter fraud.

When you think facts are subjective beliefs, you have no clue about the truth. Maybe that's actually why you think propagandists spew on all sides. :eyebrow:

So the liberal media twisting Trump's words into him saying that COVID was a hoax when he said that the Democrats politicizing COVID is not propaganda? Neither is falsely stating that Hispanic immigrants were being denied passports?
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Postby Ranoria » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:26 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:A few very serious questions, I am not a doctor, I am not a scientist and I am not a health expert.

1 - If 2 persons or more live in a home, can a person at home affect you with the virus? If so under what circumstances?

2 - Like not wearing the masks at home with each other?

3 - Like not social distancing at home from each other?

4 - Other reasons?

Thank you all - GMS.

If neither is leaving the home, no. If 1+ people leave the home, then yes, there is a potential to bring the virus back.

Masks and social distancing aren’t always effective, obviously, even if they do help. Otherwise this thing would be over. So yes, you can spread them throughout the home if someone brings it back, even if you were taking those precautions.
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Postby Albrenia » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:54 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:A few very serious questions, I am not a doctor, I am not a scientist and I am not a health expert.

1 - If 2 persons or more live in a home, can a person at home affect you with the virus? If so under what circumstances?

2 - Like not wearing the masks at home with each other?

3 - Like not social distancing at home from each other?

4 - Other reasons?

Thank you all - GMS.


1 - Yes, people living together can and do infect each other if one of them gets sick.

2 - Constantly wearing a mask at home may reduce your chances of catching it off someone you live with, but odds are that since they'll be near everything you eat off, drink from and the like that its not a guarantee.

3 - Keeping your distance from people you live with would likely reduce your chances of catching Covid off them, yes. Although, as I said above, since they're likely to be touching many things in the house it wouldn't be a totally safe bet.

4 - Yes, there's many ways someone can be infected with the virus from those one lives with.

Having said all that, I'm not a doctor either, that's just what I've gathered from hearing others speak. I think social distancing and wearing masks in your own home isn't needed if everyone in the house is taking the appropriate measures when outside the home - most people would find it tiresome to wear masks and avoid each other literally all day at home.

Unless you know someone in the house has Covid, in which case said measures would be very reasonable.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:10 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:He'll still have a security detail...I guess...

He will, your tax dollars at work. I wonder how the Secret Service detail would react if Trump proposed a little trip to Moscow.


It would be unreasonable to require Congressional approval to leave the country. A hostile Congress would ground the President for basically no reason besides the bonus popularity Presidents get when they attend big conferences or summit meetings.

In the lame duck period after losing (or completing a second term) however, maybe it would be justified. The President is a flight risk!
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:08 am

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ture-plans

Trump will get a portrait and presidential library no matter his future plans.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:33 am

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/525889-trump-will-get-portrait-library-no-matter-his-future-plans

Trump will get a portrait and presidential library no matter his future plans.

It'll be pretty easy to add prison bars and an orange jumpsuit later if appropriate.
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Postby Nakena » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:37 am

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/525889-trump-will-get-portrait-library-no-matter-his-future-plans

Trump will get a portrait and presidential library no matter his future plans.


Featuring the Art of the Deal and other selected works by President Donald J. Trump.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:53 am

Nakena wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/525889-trump-will-get-portrait-library-no-matter-his-future-plans

Trump will get a portrait and presidential library no matter his future plans.


Featuring the Art of the Deal and other selected works by President Donald J. Trump.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:54 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:He will, your tax dollars at work. I wonder how the Secret Service detail would react if Trump proposed a little trip to Moscow.


It would be unreasonable to require Congressional approval to leave the country. A hostile Congress would ground the President for basically no reason besides the bonus popularity Presidents get when they attend big conferences or summit meetings.

In the lame duck period after losing (or completing a second term) however, maybe it would be justified. The President is a flight risk!

The 25th amendment exists for this reason.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:08 am

Nakena wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/525889-trump-will-get-portrait-library-no-matter-his-future-plans

Trump will get a portrait and presidential library no matter his future plans.


Featuring the Art of the Deal and other selected works by President Donald J. Trump.

Didn’t he…not write that?
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Postby Vilhelumea » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:33 am

Kowani wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Featuring the Art of the Deal and other selected works by President Donald J. Trump.

Didn’t he…not write that?


Thats what the failing fake news want you to believe.

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Postby Valrifell » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:35 am

Kowani wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Featuring the Art of the Deal and other selected works by President Donald J. Trump.

Didn’t he…not write that?


Well, the facts say he didn't. But I have some freshly baked alternative facts that say he did.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:35 am

Vilhelumea wrote:
Kowani wrote:Didn’t he…not write that?


Thats what the failing fake news want you to believe.

So anything outside of OANN, then.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:55 am

Vilhelumea wrote:
Kowani wrote:Didn’t he…not write that?


Thats what the failing fake news want you to believe.


Well that’s true. Tony Schwartz is/was a journalist.
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Postby Nakena » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:33 pm

Kowani wrote:
Vilhelumea wrote:
Thats what the failing fake news want you to believe.

So anything outside of OANN, then.


OANN unironically reminds me at KCNA.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:49 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:Propagandists spew on all sides? Nah.

Facts are objective. Ex: Let's look at the presidential election results. Biden decisively won the Popular vote and the Electoral vote.

Values and beliefs are subjective ideas. Ex: Breitbart conspiracy theories concerning voter fraud.

When you think facts are subjective beliefs, you have no clue about the truth. Maybe that's actually why you think propagandists spew on all sides. :eyebrow:

So the liberal media twisting Trump's words into him saying that COVID was a hoax when he said that the Democrats politicizing COVID is not propaganda? Neither is falsely stating that Hispanic immigrants were being denied passports?

Drivel.
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