MAGAThread XX: A Journal of the Plague Year

[The Emerald Legion]

Trump said "there were very fine people on both sides, and I'm not talking about the neonazis, those people should be condemned totally."

This Trump called nazis find people thing is a lie. A lie you are now participating in, because you've already been shown once that its false. You don't have plausible deniablity now.

No, he has called Nazis fine people. At the Unite the Right rally, there were no non-white supremacists on the side of the right-wing violence. There were only fascists and fascist collaborators (also known as fascists). Meanwhile, the 'other side' was made up of anti-fascist protestors, and I happen to believe (and you might disagree) that anti-fascism is morally superior to fascism, and that even violent anti-fascists should be held in higher regard than violent fascists.

Besides, can you explain why so many white nationalists and fascists support Trump?

This is again, a bald faced lie. Though I find it funny how conveniently you can know for a certain fact that there were no non-nazis at Charlottesville, but then in these BLM riots have killed more people than charlottesville did but we're supposed to see the shades of gray.

Nah. Stop with the propaganda and recognize you're just flat out wrong. The world isn't divided into people you agree with and literally Nazis.

[The Emerald Legion]

No he didn't, and said so *at the time.* It's fake news. Stop believing it.

Literally 1 Google search later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPhKTOeRfAE

Look up the quote from an actual news source that gives the whole thing rather than propagandists hunting sound bites.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Literally 1 Google search later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPhKTOeRfAE

Look up the quote from an actual news source that gives the whole thing rather than propagandists hunting sound bites.

He says it in the first link, which is uncut and 4 minutes long.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Former CNN political analyst Steve Cortes debunks the "very fine people" canard

For this, he was fired from CNN.

Cue the smears and assassinations of Cortes' character.

[New haven america]

Literally 1 Google search later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPhKTOeRfAE

Look up the quote from an actual news source that gives the whole thing rather than propagandists hunting sound bites.

The first link is over 4 minutes long.

[Cultural Posadism]

Cue the smears and assassinations of Cortes' character.

The dude assassinated his own character by being a paid commentator for CNN, my dude.

[The Alma Mater]

but then in these BLM riots have killed more people than charlottesville did but we're supposed to see the shades of gray.

What percentage of rioting was done by BLM suppoters, what percentage by Trump supporters like the proud boys, and what percentage by "convenience looters without clear political alignment" ?

[Cultural Posadism]

but then in these BLM riots have killed more people than charlottesville did but we're supposed to see the shades of gray.

What percentage of rioting was done by BLM suppoters, what percentage by Trump supporters like the proud boys, and what percentage by "convenience looters without clear political alignment" ?

And how many of those people were killed by cops?

[Senkaku]

I find myself thinking of Vergniaud as I think about the Republican Party and its development over the last three decades on the eve of the election that could cement their consolidation of an authoritarian regime dominated by a white bourgeois ultra-Christian minority of the American people. "And so, citizens, it must be feared that the Revolution, like Saturn, successively devouring its children, will engender finally only despotism, with the calamities that accompany it." Gingrich, Cantor, Bush, Boehner, McCain, Romney, Ryan, Palin, McConnell, Trump... anyways. Not sure where this thought was going since I'm a little tipsy, but I find myself extremely distressed about the state of the republic or whatever.

[The Black Forrest]

Former CNN political analyst Steve Cortes debunks the "very fine people" canard

Steve Cortes? Really? I am surprised a member of trumps election committee and adviser on hispanics is defending trump. I remember Cortes. He was such a trump fanboi; he was all but calling CNN fake news. They booted his ass when his trump support became a joke.

He is what he is; a talking head.

For this, he was fired from CNN.

Cue the smears and assassinations of Cortes' character.

Oh he wasn’t fired for Charlottesville, he was fired for being and over the top fanboi trump talking head. He didn’t offer data; he did talking points and quickly retreated to whataboutism and character attacks. Hmmm I wonder if he hangs out here. Anyway, he got to be so annoying you wished they would turn off his mic. Kayleigh McEnany was the same and look where she ended up.

CNN was right to get rid of him. Santorum of all people; defended trump and at least offered arguments. He is actually far more interesting then Cortes. I should also mention; I really don’t care for Santorum.....

[Albrenia]

Kind of hard to believe someone who would willingly be part of a PragerU video anyway.

[Kowani]

Kind of hard to believe someone who would willingly be part of a PragerU video anyway.

“Why I left the left”

[Gravlen]

I should also mention; I really don’t care for Santorum.....

Yeah, it gets kind of gross and messy, but you get less of it if you use water-based lubricant. Such santorum can easily be wiped away.

[Aclion]

Trump said "there were very fine people on both sides, and I'm not talking about the neonazis, those people should be condemned totally."

This Trump called nazis find people thing is a lie. A lie you are now participating in, because you've already been shown once that its false. You don't have plausible deniablity now.

No, he has called Nazis fine people.

I literally just quoted his speech on that rally on the post you're responding. But im sure if you repeat the lie often enough people are bound to believe it, Goebbels.

[New haven america]

Kind of hard to believe someone who would willingly be part of a PragerU video anyway.

“Why I left the left”

*Why I got paid a bunch of money to say I left the left

[The Alma Mater]

No, he has called Nazis fine people.

I literally just quoted his speech on that rally on the post you're responding. But im sure if you repeat the lie often enough people are bound to believe it, Goebbels.

Actually, you did NOT literally quote his speech, so that is a little lie. But only a little because Trump indeed said the Neonazis present at said event should be condemned a few sentences later - and condensing the quotes into one does not really change the meaning.

However; the point is that Trump knows perfectly well (almost) everyone present on the event was a neonazi or supremacist. Saying "there were fine people there" is implying it was an innocent event where a few stray nazis just happened to walk past instead of an event organised by nazis for nazis to do nazistuff.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

No, he has called Nazis fine people. At the Unite the Right rally, there were no non-white supremacists on the side of the right-wing violence. There were only fascists and fascist collaborators (also known as fascists). Meanwhile, the 'other side' was made up of anti-fascist protestors, and I happen to believe (and you might disagree) that anti-fascism is morally superior to fascism, and that even violent anti-fascists should be held in higher regard than violent fascists.

Besides, can you explain why so many white nationalists and fascists support Trump?

This is again, a bald faced lie. Though I find it funny how conveniently you can know for a certain fact that there were no non-nazis at Charlottesville, but then in these BLM riots have killed more people than charlottesville did but we're supposed to see the shades of gray.

Nah. Stop with the propaganda and recognize you're just flat out wrong. The world isn't divided into people you agree with and literally Nazis.

Yeah I bet a bunch of non racists showed up and saw a giant mob of nazis and the KKK and said "yeah we'll march with these guys." And as they were marching and yelling "BLOOD AND SOIL" the non racists were like "Now wait a minute guys, let's not be so confrontational."

There were no non racists at that rally, okay? No one who is truly non racist is gonna March side by side with the fucking KKK.

[New Visayan Islands]

No, he has called Nazis fine people.

I literally just quoted his speech on that rally on the post you're responding. But im sure if you repeat the lie often enough people are bound to believe it, Goebbels.

You realize you just earned yourself a *** warning for flaming, *** right?

Thanks!
NVI

[Ifreann]

No, it was not a lie at all. Trump did say that there were fine people on both sides, and referred to the Nazis present at the Unite the Right rally.

Trump said "there were very fine people on both sides, and I'm not talking about the neonazis, those people should be condemned totally."

This Trump called nazis find people thing is a lie. A lie you are now participating in, because you've already been shown once that its false. You don't have plausible deniablity now.

Trump did call neo-Nazis very fine people.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Aclion, why this thing in particular are you so determined to defend Trump on? You could have said "yeah, it's unfortunate how he said that" or some similar non-apology, and changed the subject to something else he has said or done. Maybe Trump wasn't completely in the wrong on the Charlottesville riot and murder, but trying to make him completely in the right is beyond human ability.

I thought the first press conference where he announced CDC guidelines for people to now wear masks was pretty good. Americans will likely say it came too late, but here in Australia the guidelines were still "don't wear masks, they take away from medics who need them" and it didn't seem to occur to anyone that a cloth mask is better than no mask at all.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Former CNN political analyst Steve Cortes debunks the "very fine people" canard

For this, he was fired from CNN.

Cue the smears and assassinations of Cortes' character.

>PragerU and washington examiner

cool garbage sources m8

Literally 1 Google search later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPhKTOeRfAE

Look up the quote from an actual news source that gives the whole thing rather than propagandists hunting sound bites.

"Media bad!"

[Aclion]

Aclion, why this thing in particular are you so determined to defend Trump on? You could have said "yeah, it's unfortunate how he said that" or some similar non-apology, and changed the subject to something else he has said or done. Maybe Trump wasn't completely in the wrong on the Charlottesville riot and murder, but trying to make him completely in the right is beyond human ability.

I thought the first press conference where he announced CDC guidelines for people to now wear masks was pretty good. Americans will likely say it came too late, but here in Australia the guidelines were still "don't wear masks, they take away from medics who need them" and it didn't seem to occur to anyone that a cloth mask is better than no mask at all.

Because it its a lie that keeps coming up, even your response, asking me to give a nonapology for something he never said.

[Ifreann]

Aclion, why this thing in particular are you so determined to defend Trump on? You could have said "yeah, it's unfortunate how he said that" or some similar non-apology, and changed the subject to something else he has said or done. Maybe Trump wasn't completely in the wrong on the Charlottesville riot and murder, but trying to make him completely in the right is beyond human ability.

I thought the first press conference where he announced CDC guidelines for people to now wear masks was pretty good. Americans will likely say it came too late, but here in Australia the guidelines were still "don't wear masks, they take away from medics who need them" and it didn't seem to occur to anyone that a cloth mask is better than no mask at all.

Because it its a lie that keeps coming up, even your response, asking me to give a nonapology for something he never said.

It's not a lie.

[The Alma Mater]

Aclion, why this thing in particular are you so determined to defend Trump on? You could have said "yeah, it's unfortunate how he said that" or some similar non-apology, and changed the subject to something else he has said or done. Maybe Trump wasn't completely in the wrong on the Charlottesville riot and murder, but trying to make him completely in the right is beyond human ability.

I thought the first press conference where he announced CDC guidelines for people to now wear masks was pretty good. Americans will likely say it came too late, but here in Australia the guidelines were still "don't wear masks, they take away from medics who need them" and it didn't seem to occur to anyone that a cloth mask is better than no mask at all.

Because it its a lie that keeps coming up, even your response, asking me to give a nonapology for something he never said.

Except you also twisted his words a bit and certainly ripped them out of context.
How is that better?

[Aclion]

Because it its a lie that keeps coming up, even your response, asking me to give a nonapology for something he never said.

It's not a lie.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump ... remacists/
" I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally. "

Because it its a lie that keeps coming up, even your response, asking me to give a nonapology for something he never said.

Except you also twisted his words a bit and certainly ripped them out of context.
How is that better?

Whenever your quoting trump you have to paraphrase out the waffle, it's simply a consequence of the way he speaks. But no I didn't twist his words or take them out of context. The meaning remains unchanged "their were fine people on both side, and I'm not taking about those nazis" and its in context. The context is extremely important here because its important to note that this is the same speech the very fine people lie is coming from.