Cannot think of a name wrote:No man, that's just your inability to see past your self righteousness. I haven't justified a goddamn thing and it's weird that you think I have. Instead what I've done is continued to point out your flawed premises that you keep clinging to like a life raft.
No one has made excuses for violence then or now during the civil rights protests, you have just kept insisting that they continue to repudiate it while the smoke hasn't even cleared during a right wing attack. I merely pointed out that doing so is part of a long pattern of dismissing and marginalizing the struggle for civil rights.
That's not making an excuse for violence, that's pointing out your bullshit premise is bullshit.
No one made excuses then or now for the violence that happened at CHOP, the organizers were concerned about it when CHOP began because 'enlightened' folk like you that have dutifully played their role that has upheld the white supremist agenda by clutching you pearls, and were concerned about the violence that happened.
That's not making excuses for violence, that's just your bullshit premise.
Pointing out that when CHOP wasn't able to prevent all violence over the course of 10 days during tense times the entire community, who were for the most part were holding townhall discussions, providing medical care, and creating art, were met with rubber bullets and tear gas...that to suggest that was a 'successful' use of violence when CHOP was then and in your own words now used to diminish and dismiss the struggle for civil rights was a flawed premise.
That there was a direct line between the violence that happened at CHOP and the right wing militia fueled violence and the left needed to take inventory was ridiculous on its face when the very same people that sacked the capitol building were also the ones that have been showing up at peaceful protests all summer disrupting them and driving cars throough them. And unlike the civil rights movements that often took measures to quell violence in their own ranks, elected officials made excuses for them and even went so far as to make the act of driving their cars through protesters legal. AFTER someone had taken a life doing so. And that while the smoke cleared on their attack it was tone deaf at best and part of a long history of racism at worst to look at white right wing violence and cluck your tongue and say, "Well...those civil rights activists sure have a lot to answer for."
That's not making excuses for left wing violence, that's pointing out that your bullshit premise once again let's the violent right off the hook.
I pointed out that you have twisted yourselves into pretzels to make a false equivalence about escalating violence without looking at the well documented continued rise of right wing domestic terrorism and the continued refusal to address it. That we would have to look through twisted prisms to find a way to blame the left for this while meanwhile right wing militias aim guns at police to defend a rich white rancher with little consequence.
Pointing out that your premises are god-fucking-awful is not making excuses. That was just something you guys pulled from your asses along with your terrible premises.
But saying that the left needs to continually apologize like you're some sort of ideological ED 209 while wringing your hands that there might be a shred of consequence for the elected officials who have abused their office and used it to encourage and endorse violence because some of their feelings might get hurt, that is some of that high grade hypocrisy you like to accuse others of and could do with some of that self reflection you keep prescribing.
Excellent point. Compulsively describing the exact motives of actors and focusing on the nonviolent actors exclusively when they're ideologically in line with you isn't at all your naked attempt to downplay wrongdoing. Further saying "both of you do and stop doing the same thing" is hypocritical, and nobody argued it wasn't sedition when they liked the motives of those doing it. "Let's not kill each other or act like it's fine if we do" is in fact a form of pearl clutching.That thing you said proved all these things. Good job.