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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:07 am

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Hurdergaryp wrote:Given the events of yesterday, some of the American users of this forum might want to sign this petition against those who deliberately broke their Oath of Office.


Issueing proscription for Senators might be setting a rather interesting precedent.

Something has to happen for the first time in order to set a precedent.
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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:32 am

When Donald Trump leaves office on Jan. 20, I'm not going to bother keeping this thread alive any longer. He lost me with his constant post-election whining and his sudden, unexpected self-coup attempt. This is the first time I've seen Trump supporters other than the Proud Boys actually turn violent and riot on such a massive scale. Almost all of the violence has come from the Left until now.

He also cost two Republican Senators their seats in Georgia. He has gone from being an asset to a liability almost overnight, not just to Republicans, but to anti-woke leftists and anti-CCP liberal democrats such as myself.

Consider me an ex-Trump supporter.
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Whilst I am glad you are no longer a Trump supporter, GHK, I am interested in why you think the right never incited violence until now.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:29 am

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:When Donald Trump leaves office on Jan. 20, I'm not going to bother keeping this thread alive any longer. He lost me with his constant post-election whining and his sudden, unexpected self-coup attempt. This is the first time I've seen Trump supporters other than the Proud Boys actually turn violent and riot on such a massive scale. Almost all of the violence has come from the Left until now.

He also cost two Republican Senators their seats in Georgia. He has gone from being an asset to a liability almost overnight, not just to Republicans, but to anti-woke leftists and anti-CCP liberal democrats such as myself.

Consider me an ex-Trump supporter.


I appreciate that the haze has left you and I'm a firm believer that the only path to having a functional country is to recognize the humanity of the opposition and find common ground for dialogue. I further believe that the democrats choice to delineate between themselves and the opposition rather than try to make peace has resulted in a political environment so hostile that in 2015 I would have told you was just not possible. That said, what the actual fuck are you talking about?

Now that the scales have fallen from your eyes are you not seeing this shit? He glazed over violence and death perpetrated by his most rabid supporters and shifted focus away from them wherever he could. This did not happen over night. His first campaign was characterzied by courting the unhinged and using disinformation to drive people to irrational and dangerous conclusions and the progressive decay of that has been neither sudden nor unexpected. People have been calling this shit since Covfefe, it's 1984 shit- once you start trying to convince people that you have the power to dictate the truth and their perceptions and the perceptions of others are not up to the task nothing good is about to happen. It's been fucked up dictators shit since day one and the very fucking moment he started bad-mouthing mail in ballots it was manifestly obvious he was orchestrating a conspiracy. He primed these people, he refused to denounce violent militia groups and told the Proud Boys to "stand by" to police the election.

He wanted to make sure the balance of in-person voters benefitted him and then cast aspersions on the process with his fucking black shirts ready to tear shit up if it didn't go his way. That was the only reason he did this. The only reason to believe it was because you supported him more than you supported understanding the world.

You want to puke up the kool-aid? Cool, more power to you I hope everything in your life is perfect. But understand that this is your fault. You get to spread that blame around to a lot of other people but this is your fault.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:37 am

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Jedi Council wrote:You clearly dont understand; that wasnt terrorism, that was a peaceful protest.

That wasnt theft, that was reclamation of public property.

That wasnt intimidation, that was informing legislators of the will of the people.

That wasnt violating the constitution, that was defending it from the evil left who are somehow both ineffectual snowflakes and gulag creating stalinists.


So, where was this opinion when CHAZ popped up? Y'know the thing where the protestors actually killed people?

When did CHAZ raid DC to overturn the election results?

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:38 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
So, where was this opinion when CHAZ popped up? Y'know the thing where the protestors actually killed people?

When did CHAZ raid DC to overturn the election results?


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Postby Cultural Posadism » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:41 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:You clearly dont understand; that wasnt terrorism, that was a peaceful protest.

That wasnt theft, that was reclamation of public property.

That wasnt intimidation, that was informing legislators of the will of the people.

That wasnt violating the constitution, that was defending it from the evil left who are somehow both ineffectual snowflakes and gulag creating stalinists.


So, where was this opinion when CHAZ popped up? Y'know the thing where the protestors actually killed people?

Jesus christ dude, Trump is gonna be gone in two weeks. You should stop simping while there's still time.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:42 am

Cultural Posadism wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
So, where was this opinion when CHAZ popped up? Y'know the thing where the protestors actually killed people?

Jesus christ dude, Trump is gonna be gone in two weeks. You should stop simping while there's still time.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:46 am

Cultural Posadism wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
So, where was this opinion when CHAZ popped up? Y'know the thing where the protestors actually killed people?

Jesus christ dude, Trump is gonna be gone in two weeks. You should stop simping while there's still time.

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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:25 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:When Donald Trump leaves office on Jan. 20, I'm not going to bother keeping this thread alive any longer. He lost me with his constant post-election whining and his sudden, unexpected self-coup attempt. This is the first time I've seen Trump supporters other than the Proud Boys actually turn violent and riot on such a massive scale. Almost all of the violence has come from the Left until now.

He also cost two Republican Senators their seats in Georgia. He has gone from being an asset to a liability almost overnight, not just to Republicans, but to anti-woke leftists and anti-CCP liberal democrats such as myself.

Consider me an ex-Trump supporter.


I appreciate that the haze has left you and I'm a firm believer that the only path to having a functional country is to recognize the humanity of the opposition and find common ground for dialogue. I further believe that the democrats choice to delineate between themselves and the opposition rather than try to make peace has resulted in a political environment so hostile that in 2015 I would have told you was just not possible. That said, what the actual fuck are you talking about?

Now that the scales have fallen from your eyes are you not seeing this shit? He glazed over violence and death perpetrated by his most rabid supporters and shifted focus away from them wherever he could. This did not happen over night. His first campaign was characterzied by courting the unhinged and using disinformation to drive people to irrational and dangerous conclusions and the progressive decay of that has been neither sudden nor unexpected. People have been calling this shit since Covfefe, it's 1984 shit- once you start trying to convince people that you have the power to dictate the truth and their perceptions and the perceptions of others are not up to the task nothing good is about to happen. It's been fucked up dictators shit since day one and the very fucking moment he started bad-mouthing mail in ballots it was manifestly obvious he was orchestrating a conspiracy. He primed these people, he refused to denounce violent militia groups and told the Proud Boys to "stand by" to police the election.

He wanted to make sure the balance of in-person voters benefitted him and then cast aspersions on the process with his fucking black shirts ready to tear shit up if it didn't go his way. That was the only reason he did this. The only reason to believe it was because you supported him more than you supported understanding the world.

You want to puke up the kool-aid? Cool, more power to you I hope everything in your life is perfect. But understand that this is your fault. You get to spread that blame around to a lot of other people but this is your fault.


I don't think Trump is intelligent enough to pull off the kind of shit you've been accusing him of. Also, hindsight is 20/20, especially now that 2020 is over. I did not see Trump supporters rioting when AP and Fox News called the election for Joe Biden back in November. I did not see Trump supporters burning down countless small businesses and setting entire parking lots on fire. I did not see any rioting and looting on the Right throughout the whole of last year. Almost all of the violence, insurrection, sedition, and political intimidation came from the Left, not the Right. That is why I supported Trump pre-Nov. 3 and I have no regrets about having done so back then if only to make a point about the violence and intolerance of the Left.

Donald Trump was a panacea to the political cowardice and political correctness of the Left. He was awesome before he self-destructed, and he did and said a lot of right things such as adopting a hardline immigration policy, triggering radical feminists by nominating Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, banning the teaching of critical race theory in public institutions, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Israel, moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, and presiding over multiple peace deals between Israel and Arab states, some of which were agreed after Nov. 3, funneling arms to Taiwan, and sanctioning HK and Chinese officials. He drew a red line in Syria and he enforced it when he ordered limited airstrikes against the Assad regime while his weak, cowardly predecessor from Hawai'i paid lip service to the ideals of freedom and democracy but allowed Putin and Assad to push him around for years. He did the same with Iran when he ordered the assassination of Qasem Soleimani. He pulled the United States out of the WHO, UNESCO, UNRWA, and the UNHRC, and he has defunded these corrupt orgs. He has rightly told the UN and international law to go fuck themselves. This is what strong and decisive leadership looks like. His Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has been very consistent and tough against China. Nikki Haley was also an exemplary ambassador under the Trump Administration, particularly in her support for Israel and denunciation of Palestinian Islamist terror. Donald Trump's foreign policy remains the best of any recent U.S. leader since FDR.

You can blame me all you want, but the fact remains that you were prejudging Trump and his supporters before they turned violent and turning a blind eye to your own side's intolerance, hatred, and violence, and hindsight is always 20/20. Antifa and BLM were as much a part of the hatred and division as Trump was, if not far more so. I did not hear Democrats unequivocally and wholeheartedly denounce mob violence until now. If I'm to blame for how fucked up your country has become, then so are you.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:56 am

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:I don't think Trump is intelligent enough to pull off the kind of shit you've been accusing him of. Also, hindsight is 20/20, especially now that 2020 is over. I did not see Trump supporters rioting when AP and Fox News called the election for Joe Biden back in November. I did not see Trump supporters burning down countless small businesses and setting entire parking lots on fire. I did not see any rioting and looting on the Right throughout the whole of last year. Almost all of the violence, insurrection, sedition, and political intimidation came from the Left, not the Right. That is why I supported Trump pre-Nov. 3 and I have no regrets about having done so back then if only to make a point about the violence and intolerance of the Left.

Donald Trump was a panacea to the political cowardice and political correctness of the Left. He was awesome before he self-destructed, and he did and said a lot of right things such as adopting a hardline immigration policy, triggering radical feminists by nominating Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, banning the teaching of critical race theory in public institutions, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Israel, moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, and presiding over multiple peace deals between Israel and Arab states, some of which were agreed after Nov. 3, funneling arms to Taiwan, and sanctioning HK and Chinese officials. He drew a red line in Syria and he enforced it when he ordered limited airstrikes against the Assad regime while his weak, cowardly predecessor from Hawai'i paid lip service to the ideals of freedom and democracy but allowed Putin and Assad to push him around for years. He did the same with Iran when he ordered the assassination of Qasem Soleimani. He pulled the United States out of the WHO, UNESCO, UNRWA, and the UNHRC, and he has defunded these corrupt orgs. He has rightly told the UN and international law to go fuck themselves. This is what strong and decisive leadership looks like. His Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has been very consistent and tough against China. Nikki Haley was also an exemplary ambassador under the Trump Administration, particularly in her support for Israel and denunciation of Palestinian Islamist terror. Donald Trump's foreign policy remains the best of any recent U.S. leader since FDR.

You can blame me all you want, but the fact remains that you were prejudging Trump and his supporters before they turned violent and turning a blind eye to your own side's intolerance, hatred, and violence, and hindsight is always 20/20. Antifa and BLM were as much a part of the hatred and division as Trump was, if not far more so. I did not hear Democrats unequivocally and wholeheartedly denounce mob violence until now. If I'm to blame for how fucked up your country has become, then so are you.



This isn't game of thrones shit, the only reason you didn't see the writing on the wall was because you were trapped in an echo chamber. You make an excellent point that you immediately begin your support of Trump by bitching about other people and entities. Donald Trump does not have merits, he is just someone other than the thing you were mad at.

Donald Trump called one hundred wounded american soldiers and the destrution of a civilian craft a de-escalation, he let North Korea walk all over him, he negotiated with the taliban then made no effort to hold them to their end. On the subject of Russia, he has allowed them to attack our soldiers with impunity and orchestrated a massive cyber attack without any real acknowledgement. This is a pattern of behavior creates a single image: Donald Trump is a fucking pussy. He doesn't have the balls to play this game.

I never prejudged anybody, Trump supporters have been defined by their lunacy and willful ignorance from the beginning. Juding someone by their actions is not prejudice. Donald Trump refused to denounce violent and racist groups and seemed in fact to be courting them. There is no equivalence here, the lefties were tripping over themselves to draw a hard line and condemn looting and rioting in the strongest possible terms. Did you watch the debates? Biden unequiovcally denounced leftist violence, Trump told the proud boys to stand by and added that someone had to do something about the leftists.

I literally called out the left first thing I said but to clear up any further confusion- I'm not a fucking democrat.
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Postby Myrensis » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:20 am

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:When Donald Trump leaves office on Jan. 20, I'm not going to bother keeping this thread alive any longer. He lost me with his constant post-election whining and his sudden, unexpected self-coup attempt. This is the first time I've seen Trump supporters other than the Proud Boys actually turn violent and riot on such a massive scale. Almost all of the violence has come from the Left until now.

He also cost two Republican Senators their seats in Georgia. He has gone from being an asset to a liability almost overnight, not just to Republicans, but to anti-woke leftists and anti-CCP liberal democrats such as myself.

Consider me an ex-Trump supporter.


The fact that you found anything about Trumps post election behavior remotely surprising or unexpected suggests that the Trump you supported was entirely a construct of your own mind.

So don't be too sad, I'm sure some other puffed up rightwing populist with delusions of grandeur will pop up again soon and you can construct a fantasy version of them to be your new hero.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:24 am

Myrensis wrote:
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:When Donald Trump leaves office on Jan. 20, I'm not going to bother keeping this thread alive any longer. He lost me with his constant post-election whining and his sudden, unexpected self-coup attempt. This is the first time I've seen Trump supporters other than the Proud Boys actually turn violent and riot on such a massive scale. Almost all of the violence has come from the Left until now.

He also cost two Republican Senators their seats in Georgia. He has gone from being an asset to a liability almost overnight, not just to Republicans, but to anti-woke leftists and anti-CCP liberal democrats such as myself.

Consider me an ex-Trump supporter.


The fact that you found anything about Trumps post election behavior remotely surprising or unexpected suggests that the Trump you supported was entirely a construct of your own mind.

So don't be too sad, I'm sure some other puffed up rightwing populist with delusions of grandeur will pop up again soon and you can construct a fantasy version of them to be your new hero.


I mean they kept glossing over Trump's constant shilling and simping for Xi and the CCP.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:39 am

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I mean they kept glossing over Trump's constant shilling and simping for Xi and the CCP.


Also a bunch of people who worked for him admitted they broke the law in ways that benefitted him and then got pardoned. Keep looking for those deep state conspiracies gang, the truth is out there.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:02 pm

Myrensis wrote:
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:When Donald Trump leaves office on Jan. 20, I'm not going to bother keeping this thread alive any longer. He lost me with his constant post-election whining and his sudden, unexpected self-coup attempt. This is the first time I've seen Trump supporters other than the Proud Boys actually turn violent and riot on such a massive scale. Almost all of the violence has come from the Left until now.

He also cost two Republican Senators their seats in Georgia. He has gone from being an asset to a liability almost overnight, not just to Republicans, but to anti-woke leftists and anti-CCP liberal democrats such as myself.

Consider me an ex-Trump supporter.


The fact that you found anything about Trumps post election behavior remotely surprising or unexpected suggests that the Trump you supported was entirely a construct of your own mind.

So don't be too sad, I'm sure some other puffed up rightwing populist with delusions of grandeur will pop up again soon and you can construct a fantasy version of them to be your new hero.


Prepare for Tucker Carlson.

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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:47 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:I don't think Trump is intelligent enough to pull off the kind of shit you've been accusing him of. Also, hindsight is 20/20, especially now that 2020 is over. I did not see Trump supporters rioting when AP and Fox News called the election for Joe Biden back in November. I did not see Trump supporters burning down countless small businesses and setting entire parking lots on fire. I did not see any rioting and looting on the Right throughout the whole of last year. Almost all of the violence, insurrection, sedition, and political intimidation came from the Left, not the Right. That is why I supported Trump pre-Nov. 3 and I have no regrets about having done so back then if only to make a point about the violence and intolerance of the Left.

Donald Trump was a panacea to the political cowardice and political correctness of the Left. He was awesome before he self-destructed, and he did and said a lot of right things such as adopting a hardline immigration policy, triggering radical feminists by nominating Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, banning the teaching of critical race theory in public institutions, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Israel, moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, and presiding over multiple peace deals between Israel and Arab states, some of which were agreed after Nov. 3, funneling arms to Taiwan, and sanctioning HK and Chinese officials. He drew a red line in Syria and he enforced it when he ordered limited airstrikes against the Assad regime while his weak, cowardly predecessor from Hawai'i paid lip service to the ideals of freedom and democracy but allowed Putin and Assad to push him around for years. He did the same with Iran when he ordered the assassination of Qasem Soleimani. He pulled the United States out of the WHO, UNESCO, UNRWA, and the UNHRC, and he has defunded these corrupt orgs. He has rightly told the UN and international law to go fuck themselves. This is what strong and decisive leadership looks like. His Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has been very consistent and tough against China. Nikki Haley was also an exemplary ambassador under the Trump Administration, particularly in her support for Israel and denunciation of Palestinian Islamist terror. Donald Trump's foreign policy remains the best of any recent U.S. leader since FDR.

You can blame me all you want, but the fact remains that you were prejudging Trump and his supporters before they turned violent and turning a blind eye to your own side's intolerance, hatred, and violence, and hindsight is always 20/20. Antifa and BLM were as much a part of the hatred and division as Trump was, if not far more so. I did not hear Democrats unequivocally and wholeheartedly denounce mob violence until now. If I'm to blame for how fucked up your country has become, then so are you.



This isn't game of thrones shit, the only reason you didn't see the writing on the wall was because you were trapped in an echo chamber. You make an excellent point that you immediately begin your support of Trump by bitching about other people and entities. Donald Trump does not have merits, he is just someone other than the thing you were mad at.

Donald Trump called one hundred wounded american soldiers and the destrution of a civilian craft a de-escalation, he let North Korea walk all over him, he negotiated with the taliban then made no effort to hold them to their end. On the subject of Russia, he has allowed them to attack our soldiers with impunity and orchestrated a massive cyber attack without any real acknowledgement. This is a pattern of behavior creates a single image: Donald Trump is a fucking pussy. He doesn't have the balls to play this game.

I never prejudged anybody, Trump supporters have been defined by their lunacy and willful ignorance from the beginning. Juding someone by their actions is not prejudice. Donald Trump refused to denounce violent and racist groups and seemed in fact to be courting them. There is no equivalence here, the lefties were tripping over themselves to draw a hard line and condemn looting and rioting in the strongest possible terms. Did you watch the debates? Biden unequiovcally denounced leftist violence, Trump told the proud boys to stand by and added that someone had to do something about the leftists.

I literally called out the left first thing I said but to clear up any further confusion- I'm not a fucking democrat.


I watched the third second debate as well as highlights from the first "debate". In what world did Joe Biden or Democrats "unequivocally" denounce leftist violence? He literally called Antifa an idea. Well, so is al-Qaeda. As for the Proud Boys, as violent and thuggish as they are, they are not racists or white supremacists. They are a multiracial gang led by a black Cuban from Miami. This is a fact. Sadly, they have broken the law and they should face the consequences of doing so. The debate took place at a time when the Left was the one doing all the rioting and burning. Right-wing militias such as the ones in Kenosha were performing a public service and they and Kyle Rittenhouse deserve nothing less than praise and Presidential Medals for their actions that day in defending private property from being destroyed. Donald Trump rightly stood with Rittenhouse while Democrats launched into their usual character assassinations. He has denounced Antifa in the strongest terms and has banned the teaching of critical race theory, a Frankfurt School-derived woke ideology, in public institutions. Joe Biden has failed to denounce Antifa in the strongest terms and has vowed to reverse Trump's ban on CRT. Joe Biden, like Barack Obama, is a virtue-signaling coward in this sense.

Even the Trump supporters who rioted on Jan. 6 were mostly run-of-the-mill, hardcore fanatics and not necessarily white supremacists or Proud Boys. They strike me as LARPers throwing a tantrum, not trained terrorists.

If Joe Biden proves to be as weak and incompetent as Obama was, then fuck him. I do not trust the Left any more than I do the Right. Fuck their woke, feminist, virtue-signaling BS and fuck the MSM that has enabled them for years. Donald Trump was also right about the lying, leftist media. I absolutely love that he tore these leftists a new one and made them suffer for their crimes and betrayal for four years straight. That is why I wanted Trump to win because fuck censorship and political correctness and long live free speech, in addition to his exceptional foreign policy successes, particularly with respect to Israel, an important symbol and vanguard of Western civilization.

I'm sick of men like myself being demonized by feminists and PC, Islamist-terrorist-sympathizing, communist leftists shutting down criticism of Islam and China as racist and xenophobic. I'm tired of Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims, women, and African-Americans being constantly elevated to the status of perpetual victimhood while Jews, Christians, men, and white people are routinely demonized and scapegoated for every bad thing that happens to the former groups. I'm tired of identity politics. Donald Trump made the Left pay and it was good fun while it lasted. His controversial tweets, such as the one telling Ilhan Omar to go home for being a traitorous, unpatriotic ingrate, were a good laugh.

His hardline immigration policy is one that Malaysia desperately needs to emulate, especially in the middle of a deadly pandemic. His message was that every country has a right to police its borders and preserve its national identity and sovereignty. Countries such as Malaysia, Hong Kong, and Israel. Malaysia should be far more ruthless and unforgiving when it comes to illegal immigration and the pandemic has only served to harden my views still further. Zero tolerance.

Unlike the conservative, Christian Right, which is mainly confined to the United States, leftist ideas such as BLM, Third Wave feminism, censorship, and cancel culture have demonstrated a global appeal and pose a potential ideological threat to freedom and equality all over the world. BLM riots and propaganda have manifested in places as far-flung as the UK and Australia. Feminist propaganda is even more ingrained and insidious. I see the BBC pandering to this woke nonsense from time to time and it irks me to no end. Al Jazeera obviously requires no introduction. TV shows such as Supergirl have gone completely bonkers with this shit.

Who's going to put a stop to it now? God? Unfortunately, there is no god. Trump? After he cost two Republicans their seats and turned on his closest allies, some of whom I have the deepest respect for, putting their lives in literal danger by inciting a violent insurrection against democracy itself? Fuck him. Someone who isn't a self-aggrandizing narcissist has to stand up to these leftist extremists and tell them directly to their faces that they are full of it and that their antics will no longer be tolerated.
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:56 pm

Nakena wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
The fact that you found anything about Trumps post election behavior remotely surprising or unexpected suggests that the Trump you supported was entirely a construct of your own mind.

So don't be too sad, I'm sure some other puffed up rightwing populist with delusions of grandeur will pop up again soon and you can construct a fantasy version of them to be your new hero.


Prepare for Tucker Carlson.

Some of the stuff he says sounds socialist, like all the class warfare stuff
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Postby Nakena » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:30 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Prepare for Tucker Carlson.

Some of the stuff he says sounds socialist, like all the class warfare stuff


You should watch him more.

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:31 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:You clearly dont understand; that wasnt terrorism, that was a peaceful protest.

That wasnt theft, that was reclamation of public property.

That wasnt intimidation, that was informing legislators of the will of the people.

That wasnt violating the constitution, that was defending it from the evil left who are somehow both ineffectual snowflakes and gulag creating stalinists.


So, where was this opinion when CHAZ popped up? Y'know the thing where the protestors actually killed people?

I wanted hear you explain again what you think CHAZ was and what happened there lol
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:33 pm

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:Who's going to put a stop to it now? God? Unfortunately, there is no god.

In a long post full of wacky bullshit, this might be the most exceptional and sweeping claim in the whole steaming pile
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:46 pm

Glorious Hong Kong wrote:Who's going to put a stop to it now? God?


You can always try building a wall. That is the go-to solution of the right.
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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:00 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
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I mean they kept glossing over Trump's constant shilling and simping for Xi and the CCP.


Also a bunch of people who worked for him admitted they broke the law in ways that benefitted him and then got pardoned. Keep looking for those deep state conspiracies gang, the truth is out there.


From what I can see, Trump and his cronies WERE the deep state.

I mean seriously, how can an old rich white dipshit be at all identified with the common citizen?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:00 pm

Nakena wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Some of the stuff he says sounds socialist, like all the class warfare stuff


You should watch him more.

A generation of Americans enslaved to debt


Awww the multi-millionaire is upset at the cost of college.

Sorry I guess I am one of those intellectual elitists as I am not his audience.
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