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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:18 am

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The grey wolf is still not present across its former range, so unless it's actually over-breeding somewhere and starving for lack of its natural prey, it should remain protected. The idea that citizens are allowed to hunt anything that's not specifically protected, is incredibly bad environmental management: it would make a lot more sense to issue temporary licenses, only for specific areas where a species has over-bred. It would be more of a challenge for one thing (more like a real sport) and by killing one animal you'd have the satisfaction that you're making all other animals of its species a little better off. Well unless their name is Bambi.

What you suggested is basically how the US manages hunting.


I doubt it. There are 50 states, I know that much.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:21 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Aclion wrote:What you suggested is basically how the US manages hunting.


I doubt it. There are 50 states, I know that much.


So basically ignorance and prejudice are the roots of your view?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:26 am

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I doubt it. There are 50 states, I know that much.


So basically ignorance and prejudice are the roots of your view?


States regulate hunting differently. If Aclion was saying that his state manages hunting by allowing only over-abundant species to be hunted, I'd accept that. And check it of course.

The generalization that all states regulated hunting that way I am not accepting at face value.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:30 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Telconi wrote:
So basically ignorance and prejudice are the roots of your view?


States regulate hunting differently. If Aclion was saying that his state manages hunting by allowing only over-abundant species to be hunted, I'd accept that. And check it of course.

The generalization that all states regulated hunting that way I am not accepting at face value.


A "yes" would have been much easier.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:36 am

Telconi wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
States regulate hunting differently. If Aclion was saying that his state manages hunting by allowing only over-abundant species to be hunted, I'd accept that. And check it of course.

The generalization that all states regulated hunting that way I am not accepting at face value.


A "yes" would have been much easier.


The only way I can persuade you I know what I'm talking about is to deal with EACH ONE of 50 different state systems, AND the Federal system, and why the fuck should I since you apparently know so much more about hunting in the United States than I do?

You wouldn't learn anything from it, and I wouldn't even have the satisfaction of winning a point, because Telconi NEVER admits that he's wrong.

Think what you like. I know a fuck more about EVERYTHING than you do, and it will stay that way.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:38 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Telconi wrote:
A "yes" would have been much easier.


The only way I can persuade you I know what I'm talking about is to deal with EACH ONE of 50 different state systems, AND the Federal system, and why the fuck should I since you apparently know so much more about hunting in the United States than I do?

You wouldn't learn anything from it, and I wouldn't even have the satisfaction of winning a point, because Telconi NEVER admits that he's wrong.

Think what you like. I know a fuck more about EVERYTHING than you do, and it will stay that way.


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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:41 am

Aclion wrote:
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The grey wolf is still not present across its former range, so unless it's actually over-breeding somewhere and starving for lack of its natural prey, it should remain protected. The idea that citizens are allowed to hunt anything that's not specifically protected, is incredibly bad environmental management: it would make a lot more sense to issue temporary licenses, only for specific areas where a species has over-bred. It would be more of a challenge for one thing (more like a real sport) and by killing one animal you'd have the satisfaction that you're making all other animals of its species a little better off. Well unless their name is Bambi.

What you suggested is basically how the US manages hunting. With the addional detail that fees for licenses are the primary source of funds for conservation.


If you'd like to continue this, I suggest the way forward would be for you to name a state, and we'll talk about game management there.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:53 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
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The people of the US chose Trump. Just because you don't like the way we decided to hold elections, doesn't mean that's not how we chose to do it.

Well, yes, legally, it’s how you chose to do it. By law, he is president. However, more people wanted Clinton, and in a democracy, that should have counted for something.


The people of the US did not choose Trump. The Electors of the Electoral College chose Trump. The Electors were chosen by states, from among two lists provided by GOP and Dems, according to the majority vote of the People in each state.

Except in Maine and Nebraska, bless them. Or the Electors who made a bold stand for Colin Powell :p

Simplifying it to "the People chose Trump" is either the misunderstanding of a simpleton, or a lie.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:29 am

Since reality is never that nice, here's a Gay Marxist Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge_GWAJAiVM
(And I doubt Trump could even say the words bourgeois, much less know what it means)
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:18 am

The Lone Alliance wrote:Since reality is never that nice, here's a Gay Marxist Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge_GWAJAiVM
(And I doubt Trump could even say the words bourgeois, much less know what it means)


In an alternate universe where Trump didn't get a small loan of a million dollars and instead got thrown out, this happened.
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Postby Diahon » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:26 pm

so one of the motherfucker's supporters tried to run a biden/harris campaign bus off the road, and the motherfucker cheered them on after the fact? in a tweet?

expected? as fuck

when you think hundreds of thousands are almost nothing and your base agrees wholeheartedly, what's a few more? two more?

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:31 pm

Diahon wrote:so one of the motherfucker's supporters tried to run a biden/harris campaign bus off the road, and the motherfucker cheered them on after the fact? in a tweet?

expected? as fuck

when you think hundreds of thousands are almost nothing and your base agrees wholeheartedly, what's a few more? two more?


Wait he did what?
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Postby Diahon » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:46 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Diahon wrote:so one of the motherfucker's supporters tried to run a biden/harris campaign bus off the road, and the motherfucker cheered them on after the fact? in a tweet?

expected? as fuck

when you think hundreds of thousands are almost nothing and your base agrees wholeheartedly, what's a few more? two more?


Wait he did what?


murder-minded motherfucker wants this, wants more

that abyss even bragged about it at a campaign stop

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:12 pm

Diahon wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Wait he did what?


murder-minded motherfucker wants this, wants more

that abyss even bragged about it at a campaign stop


A small white car with a dark back window is directly behind the bus. Later (out of town) there's a dispute for that place (and a deliberate collision) between a Trumpster pickup and a car that looks similar. That's enough for me: Trumpsters were at fault.
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Postby Aclion » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:26 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Aclion wrote:What you suggested is basically how the US manages hunting. With the addional detail that fees for licenses are the primary source of funds for conservation.


If you'd like to continue this, I suggest the way forward would be for you to name a state, and we'll talk about game management there.

Or I could just throw a link to the relevant federal regulatory body at you. https://www.fws.gov/hunting/north-ameri ... ation.html
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Postby Gravlen » Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:11 am

This morning, we received more than 30 pages of material from the FBI illustrating a remarkable disparity in its treatment of its employees: Five employees, the documents show, have been disciplined for private communications using government devices in which they have criticized President Trump. But none, at least not since 2011, has been disciplined for similar conduct with respect to presidential candidates Hillary Clinton or Mitt Romney, or President Barack Obama—or for praising Trump.

It’s not because politically-loaded communications with respect to those political figures have not taken place among agents and other employees. At least with respect to enthusiasm for Trump and opposition to Clinton four years ago, the Justice Department inspector general has found communications that arguably imply similar bias by people working on campaign-related investigations

The verdict is now in, at least for the last four major party presidential candidates, one of whom served as president of the United States for eight full years. FBI employees who voiced political sentiments in favor of or opposed to Clinton, Obama and Romney all did not face consequences—nor did those who praised Trump. Those who criticize the current president appear to be the only people subject to discipline.

Newly Released FBI Documents Show Troubling Double Standard on Political Speech
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Postby Diahon » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:40 am

Gravlen wrote:
This morning, we received more than 30 pages of material from the FBI illustrating a remarkable disparity in its treatment of its employees: Five employees, the documents show, have been disciplined for private communications using government devices in which they have criticized President Trump. But none, at least not since 2011, has been disciplined for similar conduct with respect to presidential candidates Hillary Clinton or Mitt Romney, or President Barack Obama—or for praising Trump.

It’s not because politically-loaded communications with respect to those political figures have not taken place among agents and other employees. At least with respect to enthusiasm for Trump and opposition to Clinton four years ago, the Justice Department inspector general has found communications that arguably imply similar bias by people working on campaign-related investigations

The verdict is now in, at least for the last four major party presidential candidates, one of whom served as president of the United States for eight full years. FBI employees who voiced political sentiments in favor of or opposed to Clinton, Obama and Romney all did not face consequences—nor did those who praised Trump. Those who criticize the current president appear to be the only people subject to discipline.

Newly Released FBI Documents Show Troubling Double Standard on Political Speech


the true coin of the abyss, as far as that murder-minded motherfucker's concerned: praise him or die, or praise him and die

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:43 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Diahon wrote:
murder-minded motherfucker wants this, wants more

that abyss even bragged about it at a campaign stop


A small white car with a dark back window is directly behind the bus. Later (out of town) there's a dispute for that place (and a deliberate collision) between a Trumpster pickup and a car that looks similar. That's enough for me: Trumpsters were at fault.


Yeah same here. It's clear they were trying to cause damage to the Biden convoy and Trump is childishly celebrating what was basically domestic terror.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:44 am

Gravlen wrote:
This morning, we received more than 30 pages of material from the FBI illustrating a remarkable disparity in its treatment of its employees: Five employees, the documents show, have been disciplined for private communications using government devices in which they have criticized President Trump. But none, at least not since 2011, has been disciplined for similar conduct with respect to presidential candidates Hillary Clinton or Mitt Romney, or President Barack Obama—or for praising Trump.

It’s not because politically-loaded communications with respect to those political figures have not taken place among agents and other employees. At least with respect to enthusiasm for Trump and opposition to Clinton four years ago, the Justice Department inspector general has found communications that arguably imply similar bias by people working on campaign-related investigations

The verdict is now in, at least for the last four major party presidential candidates, one of whom served as president of the United States for eight full years. FBI employees who voiced political sentiments in favor of or opposed to Clinton, Obama and Romney all did not face consequences—nor did those who praised Trump. Those who criticize the current president appear to be the only people subject to discipline.

Newly Released FBI Documents Show Troubling Double Standard on Political Speech


Trump wants the government staffed with nothing but yes men.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Postby Valrifell » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:46 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Gravlen wrote:
This morning, we received more than 30 pages of material from the FBI illustrating a remarkable disparity in its treatment of its employees: Five employees, the documents show, have been disciplined for private communications using government devices in which they have criticized President Trump. But none, at least not since 2011, has been disciplined for similar conduct with respect to presidential candidates Hillary Clinton or Mitt Romney, or President Barack Obama—or for praising Trump.

It’s not because politically-loaded communications with respect to those political figures have not taken place among agents and other employees. At least with respect to enthusiasm for Trump and opposition to Clinton four years ago, the Justice Department inspector general has found communications that arguably imply similar bias by people working on campaign-related investigations

The verdict is now in, at least for the last four major party presidential candidates, one of whom served as president of the United States for eight full years. FBI employees who voiced political sentiments in favor of or opposed to Clinton, Obama and Romney all did not face consequences—nor did those who praised Trump. Those who criticize the current president appear to be the only people subject to discipline.

Newly Released FBI Documents Show Troubling Double Standard on Political Speech


Trump wants the government staffed with nothing but yes men.


A president straight out of the Gilded Age, complete with an actual aesthetic of putting gold on everything. Fitting.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:49 am

Valrifell wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Trump wants the government staffed with nothing but yes men.


A president straight out of the Gilded Age, complete with an actual aesthetic of putting gold on everything. Fitting.


I'm convinced that the closest representation on this earth currently to what America would look like after four more years of Trump is this: https://images.app.goo.gl/e8KafT5v3twq8iEP6
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Postby Diahon » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:51 am

Valrifell wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Trump wants the government staffed with nothing but yes men.


A president straight out of the Gilded Age, complete with an actual aesthetic of putting gold on everything. Fitting.


name me a us president as obsessed with praise and gold as trump is, or even someone close

i defy you

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:52 am

Diahon wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
A president straight out of the Gilded Age, complete with an actual aesthetic of putting gold on everything. Fitting.


name me a us president as obsessed with praise and gold as trump is, or even someone close

i defy you


I can't do it. Trump is that guy.
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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:09 am

Just wanted to share this piece from back in April:

Trump administration designates Russian white supremacist group a terrorist organization

Not only has Trump repeatedly condemned white supremacy, his administration has taken concrete steps to combat it. So will the fakers at BBC, CNN, MSNBC, Al Jazeera, CNA, et al. stop fucking lying already? Jfc.
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