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Postby Geneviev » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:12 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Geneviev wrote:God help us all if he does. I want the best for Trump, just not in the White House after January 20.


If people elect Trump again knowing now exactly what sort of President he is, I'm sad to say my sympathy for the American public will be... much reduced.

Most Americans already didn't vote for him in 2016. That's what I have to keep telling people who are in Germany, because Americans as a whole do deserve sympathy.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:12 pm

New haven america wrote:
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That's quite true. He can still throw his weight around before then.

If Trump's people have been listening to what people on both sides say about judge Barrett, he might pull the nomination and try again with someone guaranteed barking mad. Justice Bannon, anyone?

And the Founders in their wisdom put no numerical limit on how many criminals the President can pardon :o

Amy Barrett is already barking mad though.

She's a cultist and member of the evangelical Catholic organization that inspired Handmaid's Tale.


I take the view that justices influence each other over time, and though she might vote the 'wrong' way every time, it takes someone not-mad to write the decisions. If she really is a "literalist" she won't have much influence.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:12 pm

Aclion wrote:
Kowani wrote:cue 4 more years chants

Oh, is this thread a Biden rally? :lol:

Get used to it. The writing is on the collapsing wall of MAGA. Imagine that day that will come when not one word of out of Donald Trump's mouth will be heard on any TV anywhere. When he's Gone Daddy Gone... gone away!
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Postby Kowani » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:12 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
New haven america wrote:Amy Barrett is already barking mad though.

She's a cultist and member of the evangelical Catholic organization that inspired Handmaid's Tale.


I take the view that justices influence each other over time, and though she might vote the 'wrong' way every time, it takes someone not-mad to write the decisions. If she really is a "literalist" she won't have much influence.

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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:14 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
New haven america wrote:Amy Barrett is already barking mad though.

She's a cultist and member of the evangelical Catholic organization that inspired Handmaid's Tale.


I take the view that justices influence each other over time, and though she might vote the 'wrong' way every time, it takes someone not-mad to write the decisions. If she really is a "literalist" she won't have much influence.

"Yes Amy, thankyou, we've all read the Constitution, we're Supreme Court Justices here."

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Amy Barrett: "Did you guys know that a literal interpretation of the constitution invalidates Brown v. Board, and instead of considering that maybe that means a literal interpretation is a bad thing, we should just throw out Brown v. Board?"
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:14 pm

New haven america wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
That's quite true. He can still throw his weight around before then.

If Trump's people have been listening to what people on both sides say about judge Barrett, he might pull the nomination and try again with someone guaranteed barking mad. Justice Bannon, anyone?

And the Founders in their wisdom put no numerical limit on how many criminals the President can pardon :o

Amy Barrett is already barking mad though.

She's a cultist and member of the evangelical Catholic organization that inspired Handmaid's Tale.

Oh? Got a source for that?
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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:15 pm

I question the morality of someone who forces children to sit through hours of SCOTUS confirmation hearing stuff just to use them as props for how awesome they are.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:16 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Amy Barrett is already barking mad though.

She's a cultist and member of the evangelical Catholic organization that inspired Handmaid's Tale.

Oh? Got a source for that?

Yeah, that was false.
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Jerzylvania
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Postby Jerzylvania » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:17 pm

New haven america wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Fret not. It's end is coming soon, like the kiss from a gone missing and presumably lost lover. It will be a beautiful moment of embrace. Trust me on this,

I will fret, because there's a chance he could win.


Ye of little faith. Trust my gift - the visions of November redemption. Politically, Trump's a dead man walking.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:17 pm

New haven america wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
That's quite true. He can still throw his weight around before then.

If Trump's people have been listening to what people on both sides say about judge Barrett, he might pull the nomination and try again with someone guaranteed barking mad. Justice Bannon, anyone?

And the Founders in their wisdom put no numerical limit on how many criminals the President can pardon :o

Amy Barrett is already barking mad though.

She's a cultist and member of the evangelical Catholic organization that inspired Handmaid's Tale.

Anyone who takes the Handmaid's Tale seriously is a lunatic, and Barrett is not a cultist.
What does she believe that is out of the ordinary for a traditional Catholic?
Geneviev wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
If people elect Trump again knowing now exactly what sort of President he is, I'm sad to say my sympathy for the American public will be... much reduced.

Most Americans already didn't vote for him in 2016. That's what I have to keep telling people who are in Germany, because Americans as a whole do deserve sympathy.

The bare minimum, at least.
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:18 pm

Albrenia wrote:I question the morality of someone who forces children to sit through hours of SCOTUS confirmation hearing stuff just to use them as props for how awesome they are.


That's probably one of the more tame uses of children as political props in DC anyways.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:21 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
New haven america wrote:I will fret, because there's a chance he could win.


Ye of little faith. Trust my gift - the visions of November redemption. Politically, Trump's a dead man walking.

Even Caesar lost his seat as consul, and the elite sighed in relief too soon.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:23 pm

Albrenia wrote:I question the morality of someone who forces children to sit through hours of SCOTUS confirmation hearing stuff just to use them as props for how awesome they are.


Human morality shields. Accusations that the judge was seen cavorting naked with the Devil can't be made with children in the room.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:26 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Amy Barrett is already barking mad though.

She's a cultist and member of the evangelical Catholic organization that inspired Handmaid's Tale.

Anyone who takes the Handmaid's Tale seriously is a lunatic, and Barrett is not a cultist.
What does she believe that is out of the ordinary for a traditional Catholic?


Well exactly. Nothing crazier than the ordinary traditional Catholic.

If it's in the Catshitism it's probably right. I see no problem there.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:26 pm

Kowani wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:Mmmmm... like being reborn again.

Ain't it grand!

The fact that we have 20 of these is depressing.

I hope they end soon by Trump losing the election .

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Postby Geneviev » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:28 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
New haven america wrote:I will fret, because there's a chance he could win.


Ye of little faith. Trust my gift - the visions of November redemption. Politically, Trump's a dead man walking.

Don't be too optimistic yet.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:29 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Anyone who takes the Handmaid's Tale seriously is a lunatic, and Barrett is not a cultist.
What does she believe that is out of the ordinary for a traditional Catholic?


Well exactly. Nothing crazier than the ordinary traditional Catholic.

If it's in the Catshitism it's probably right. I see no problem there.

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Postby Kowani » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:30 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Anyone who takes the Handmaid's Tale seriously is a lunatic, and Barrett is not a cultist.
What does she believe that is out of the ordinary for a traditional Catholic?


Well exactly. Nothing crazier than the ordinary traditional Catholic.

If it's in the Catshitism it's probably right. I see no problem there.

I would like to repeat the point that her organization was not the one that inspired the catechism.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:37 pm

Kowani wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Well exactly. Nothing crazier than the ordinary traditional Catholic.

If it's in the Catshitism it's probably right. I see no problem there.

I would like to repeat the point that her organization was not the one that inspired the catechism.


And I'd like to repeat my point that "ordinary traditional Catholic" is quite crazy enough, when it comes to Supreme Court Justices. And given the assumption which ND hasn't challenged, that she will let her religious beliefs influence her judicial thinking.

Your case is that she's likely even crazier than that. Carry on.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:39 pm

What defines an ordinary traditional Catholic?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:39 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:What defines an ordinary traditional Catholic?

Fancy hats.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:39 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Kowani wrote:I would like to repeat the point that her organization was not the one that inspired the catechism.


And I'd like to repeat my point that "ordinary traditional Catholic" is quite crazy enough, when it comes to Supreme Court Justices. And given the assumption which ND hasn't challenged, that she will let her religious beliefs influence her judicial thinking.

Your case is that she's likely even crazier than that. Carry on.

I’m not sure what case exactly you think I’m making, but it would be nice if you did not try and read into my posts.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:40 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Ye of little faith. Trust my gift - the visions of November redemption. Politically, Trump's a dead man walking.

Don't be too optimistic yet.


I will not count my chickens until the election is called for Biden.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:40 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Anyone who takes the Handmaid's Tale seriously is a lunatic, and Barrett is not a cultist.
What does she believe that is out of the ordinary for a traditional Catholic?


Well exactly. Nothing crazier than the ordinary traditional Catholic.

If it's in the Catshitism it's probably right. I see no problem there.

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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:42 pm

Kowani wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:Mmmmm... like being reborn again.

Ain't it grand!

The fact that we have 20 of these is depressing.



How many of these did Obama and Bush inspire? Wasn't it none?
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