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Would you amend the constitution from how it was originally written?

Yes, let me explain why.
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No, let me explain why.
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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:55 pm

Tfw your cousin burns an American flag and the secret death squad later shows up at his house and shoot him to death execution style.
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:56 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Tfw your cousin burns an American flag and the secret death squad later shows up at his house and shoot him to death execution style.

Not even that, but one of those cheap little cloth flags on toothpicks.
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:56 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
i don't think that their contributions should be discounted, or that they should be erased. it's possible to admit that they were racists and sexists without denying that they did great things for our country. they're not mutually exclusive. history isn't black and white, unless the historian skews it to seem that way.

This.

You can be a bad person and do good things. Hell, we're all basically just bad people who do good things.

We're (hopefully) not slaveowners and rapists, but we all have faults. People who do bad things and their contributions definitely shouldn't be erased from history, but they shouldn't be glorified either imo

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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:57 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
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On this day, the twelfth of October, in the cursed year of 2020, we have lost yet another comrade. After burning an American flag, Cordel One was sent to the infamous capitalist gulags in Alabama, a state that is colored red by the blood of our brothers, sisters, and other siblings in the cause. So far, no one has returned alive, and, when corpses are mailed back to the family members, they are also mailed a bill, printed with the American flag in the background. I will never forget Cordel's sacrifice in the name of freedom, nor will I ever forgive Greater Miami Shores for making a mockery of the Constitution and causing the deaths of innumerable innocents. Long live the Revolution.

I can laugh at myself lol.

lol, good one on Greater Miami Shores, I am having a lol attack on your funny joke comments about me, :) :rofl:


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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:57 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Tfw your cousin burns an American flag and the secret death squad later shows up at his house and shoot him to death execution style.

Not even that, but one of those cheap little cloth flags on toothpicks.


Someone prints out a tiny four pixel representation of the flag and burns it and in response their house gets drone struck.
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:58 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I can laugh at myself lol.

lol, good one on Greater Miami Shores, I am having a lol attack on your funny joke comments about me, :) :rofl:


i can't tell if this is sarcastic or i'm genuinely that funny. probably the latter.

You are genuinely one of the funniest people here

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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:59 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:Not even that, but one of those cheap little cloth flags on toothpicks.


Someone prints out a tiny four pixel representation of the flag and burns it and in response their house gets drone struck.


just print every white section of the flag with 4 pixels of scp 096. actually, forget that, just make the flag a picture of 096. then we won't have to worry about anyone desecrating it.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:01 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:This.

You can be a bad person and do good things. Hell, we're all basically just bad people who do good things.

We're (hopefully) not slaveowners and rapists, but we all have faults. People who do bad things and their contributions definitely shouldn't be erased from history, but they shouldn't be glorified either imo

Destroy Mount Rushmore and take down the Washington monument and Lincoln memorial then

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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:01 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
i can't tell if this is sarcastic or i'm genuinely that funny. probably the latter.

You are genuinely one of the funniest people here


thanks comrade. [insert joke here]
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:We're (hopefully) not slaveowners and rapists, but we all have faults. People who do bad things and their contributions definitely shouldn't be erased from history, but they shouldn't be glorified either imo

Destroy Mount Rushmore and take down the Washington monument and Lincoln memorial then


you don't have to blow up a mountain and demolish a cool building in order to stop glorifying a historical figure. it'd be better to just teach about the bad things they did as well.
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:03 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Someone prints out a tiny four pixel representation of the flag and burns it and in response their house gets drone struck.


just print every white section of the flag with 4 pixels of scp 096. actually, forget that, just make the flag a picture of 096. then we won't have to worry about anyone desecrating it.

"Four fucking pixels?"
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:06 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
just print every white section of the flag with 4 pixels of scp 096. actually, forget that, just make the flag a picture of 096. then we won't have to worry about anyone desecrating it.

"Four fucking pixels?"
-George Soros, standing in the ruins of America, 2021


yes. some who saw the image were even [DATA EXPUNGED].
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:06 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Destroy Mount Rushmore and take down the Washington monument and Lincoln memorial then


you don't have to blow up a mountain and demolish a cool building in order to stop glorifying a historical figure. it'd be better to just teach about the bad things they did as well.

The building can stay, the mountain faces should go imo
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:07 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Tfw your cousin burns an American flag and the secret death squad later shows up at his house and shoot him to death execution style.


tfw when your cousin gets sent to the capitalist gulags in Alabama, and he tries to take you with him.
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:08 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:"Four fucking pixels?"
-George Soros, standing in the ruins of America, 2021


yes. some who saw the image were even [DATA EXPUNGED].

That really [REDACTED]s my ███████.
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Postby Grand Hellenic Republic » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:09 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:This.

You can be a bad person and do good things. Hell, we're all basically just bad people who do good things.


Honestly this is the problem we run into. First, that is a subjective philosophical judgement. I don't agree with it. I think people can be good and still have bad views on one issue or another. But more importantly, I think this attitude leads to a sort of "original sin" mentality, where people whip themselves in order to get absolved from supposed racism/sexism/homophobia/xenophobia because either they or their ancestors are guilty of some "naughty thoughts". it does not lead to a mentally healthy viewpoint.
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:10 pm

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
yes. some who saw the image were even [DATA EXPUNGED].

That really [REDACTED]s my ███████.


now that I think of it, it would be better to replace the flag with peanut the neck-realigner. not an image of peanut, the real thing. everywhere. then people will find out what happens when you lose sight of American values.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:11 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
you don't have to blow up a mountain and demolish a cool building in order to stop glorifying a historical figure. it'd be better to just teach about the bad things they did as well.

The building can stay, the mountain faces should go imo

Why?

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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:12 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:The building can stay, the mountain faces should go imo

Why?


The Apotheosis of Washington is gaudy af.
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:12 pm

Grand Hellenic Republic wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:This.

You can be a bad person and do good things. Hell, we're all basically just bad people who do good things.


Honestly this is the problem we run into. First, that is a subjective philosophical judgement. I don't agree with it. I think people can be good and still have bad views on one issue or another. But more importantly, I think this attitude leads to a sort of "original sin" mentality, where people whip themselves in order to get absolved from supposed racism/sexism/homophobia/xenophobia because either they or their ancestors are guilty of some "naughty thoughts". it does not lead to a mentally healthy viewpoint.


I personally think we all get born morally neutral (unless you consume your twin in the womb, then you're double neutral), and become good or bad people over time. People change. Someone can be a horrible person as a child and grow up to be a saint (not literally, the only true saint is Keanu Reeves), and vice versa.
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:14 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
you don't have to blow up a mountain and demolish a cool building in order to stop glorifying a historical figure. it'd be better to just teach about the bad things they did as well.

The building can stay, the mountain faces should go imo

i mean, the building looks cooler and more people go there, but the mountain faces would be a nightmare to remove.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:15 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Destroy Mount Rushmore and take down the Washington monument and Lincoln memorial then


you don't have to blow up a mountain and demolish a cool building in order to stop glorifying a historical figure. it'd be better to just teach about the bad things they did as well.

I mean can you? Statues and monuments are inherently glorifications of whatever their built after or dedicated to. Which can be problematic when dealing with people like many of the founding fathers, who while in many ways may have been products of their time, still did fucked up shit and had some terrible ideas that really should not be glorified. Maybe dont take them down but perhaps add some alterations to make that clear.
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:15 pm

Grand Hellenic Republic wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:This.

You can be a bad person and do good things. Hell, we're all basically just bad people who do good things.


Honestly this is the problem we run into. First, that is a subjective philosophical judgement. I don't agree with it. I think people can be good and still have bad views on one issue or another. But more importantly, I think this attitude leads to a sort of "original sin" mentality, where people whip themselves in order to get absolved from supposed racism/sexism/homophobia/xenophobia because either they or their ancestors are guilty of some "naughty thoughts". it does not lead to a mentally healthy viewpoint.

Eh. I don't have a problem with considering myself a "bad person". I don't really think "good" and "bad" are adequately nuanced ways to look at people anyways. So, sorry. Poor phrasing on my part.
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:16 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:That really [REDACTED]s my ███████.


now that I think of it, it would be better to replace the flag with peanut the neck-realigner. not an image of peanut, the real thing. everywhere. then people will find out what happens when you lose sight of American values.

Vote Stonks 2020, and no one will ever fall asleep watching CSPAN again.
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Postby Andsed » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:18 pm

Neuer Deutsches Reich wrote:1.Disband the USA and give it to Europe to recolonise, then we shall raise it like Australia and Canada and we won’t have the failure called the USA


2. Make burning the flag illegal and count it the same as treason my matter your ideology, that’s your flag and respect it, it is not the flag of the president it’s of the nation you Yankee people

1. What the fuck makes you think Americans would be down with that?

2. Making expressing your right to freedom of speech treason? Oof. You hate to see it folks.
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