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Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:24 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:In the 21st century the dentistry is far superior to the dentistry that was practiced in the 18th or 19th century

In the 19th century, they just yanked your teeth out and hoped for the best. They also had no real knowledge of germs.

Washing hands was not commonplace until the late 1800s.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:25 pm

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The 19th century was fucking wild, man. Best period of history 10/10.

Ah yes, the time of imperialism and colonialism. Nothing but sunshine and rainbows came out of that train wreck.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:26 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:In the 19th century, they just yanked your teeth out and hoped for the best. They also had no real knowledge of germs.

Washing hands was not commonplace until the late 1800s.

There's that too. 19th century cities were disgusting compared to today as well.
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:28 pm

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:31 pm

Valentine Z wrote:I need to wear a shock bracelet or a collar to remind myself to wear my retainers.


Ugh, I hate retainers.
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Postby Free Las Pinas » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:34 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:I need to wear a shock bracelet or a collar to remind myself to wear my retainers.


Ugh, I hate retainers.

I fear the day I'll have to wear them. Then again, it can't be worse than braces, right?
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:34 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:I need to wear a shock bracelet or a collar to remind myself to wear my retainers.


Ugh, I hate retainers.

So I have a very bad feeling that I might be screwed a little and I might have small complications. Not big ones, mind you.

- I have not been wearing them regularly.
- I have missed my dental appointment... back in April 2020. I will say "Thanks, Covid, you ruined my plans!" so I need to see the dentist soon! >,<

Free Las Pinas wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Ugh, I hate retainers.

I fear the day I'll have to wear them. Then again, it can't be worse than braces, right?

I personally prefer braces since they are more... semi-permanent for my lazy self, but yeah, dentures are definitely better! Better brushing!
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:37 pm

Free Las Pinas wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Ugh, I hate retainers.

I fear the day I'll have to wear them. Then again, it can't be worse than braces, right?

For me at least, they're better then braces because I can take them out.
Valentine Z wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Ugh, I hate retainers.

So I have a very bad feeling that I might be screwed a little and I might have small complications. Not big ones, mind you.

- I have not been wearing them regularly.
- I have missed my dental appointment... back in April 2020. I will say "Thanks, Covid, you ruined my plans!" so I need to see the dentist soon! >,<

Free Las Pinas wrote:I fear the day I'll have to wear them. Then again, it can't be worse than braces, right?

I personally prefer braces since they are more... semi-permanent for my lazy self, but yeah, dentures are definitely better! Better brushing!

Ouch, I hope you don't have any complications.
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:38 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:Ouch, I hope you don't have any complications.

Thanks, here's to hoping! I promise myself I will at least wear them regularly for this month, and beyond! >,<

The funny thing is, the dentist stopped calling me come May 2020. I think they also realised that Valentine cannot go out frequently because of the pandemic.
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:42 pm

Nooooooooooooooo wrote:I checked Val's profile literally just after he changed his flag

I kept going to this, I swear. Nothing screams more than this flag. :P
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If you are reading my sig, I want you to have the best day ever ! You are worth it, do not let anyone get you down !
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:48 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:Washing hands was not commonplace until the late 1800s.

There's that too. 19th century cities were disgusting compared to today as well.

I licked the Gum Wall in Seattle and I’m not dead (yet)!
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:49 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:There's that too. 19th century cities were disgusting compared to today as well.

I licked the Gum Wall in Seattle and I’m not dead (yet)!

Give it 60 or 70 years, you will be.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:51 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:I licked the Gum Wall in Seattle and I’m not dead (yet)!

Give it 60 or 70 years, you will be.

Yay, something to fret over. Death. I’m targeting 80-90. Some kid ran the whole wall with his tongue, I did a metre or so.
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Postby Abserdia » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:51 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:In the 21st century the dentistry is far superior to the dentistry that was practiced in the 18th or 19th century

In the 19th century, they just yanked your teeth out and hoped for the best. They also had no real knowledge of germs.

I actually just read an article about something related to this. Apparently back in the day people scavenged battlefields to make dentures from the teeth of dead soldiers, which they sold to aristocrats.

Heloin wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
The 19th century was fucking wild, man. Best period of history 10/10.

Ah yes, the time of imperialism and colonialism. Nothing but sunshine and rainbows came out of that train wreck.

Good setting for a grand strategy game though.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:52 pm

Valentine Z wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Ouch, I hope you don't have any complications.

Thanks, here's to hoping! I promise myself I will at least wear them regularly for this month, and beyond! >,<

The funny thing is, the dentist stopped calling me come May 2020. I think they also realised that Valentine cannot go out frequently because of the pandemic.

A pandemic'll do that.
Mathuvan Union wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:There's that too. 19th century cities were disgusting compared to today as well.

I licked the Gum Wall in Seattle and I’m not dead (yet)!

I don't even know why that exists.
Abserdia wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:In the 19th century, they just yanked your teeth out and hoped for the best. They also had no real knowledge of germs.

I actually just read an article about something related to this. Apparently back in the day people scavenged battlefields to make dentures from the teeth of dead soldiers, which they sold to aristocrats.

Heloin wrote:Ah yes, the time of imperialism and colonialism. Nothing but sunshine and rainbows came out of that train wreck.

Good setting for a grand strategy game though.

That's really unsanitary.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:53 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:Thanks, here's to hoping! I promise myself I will at least wear them regularly for this month, and beyond! >,<

The funny thing is, the dentist stopped calling me come May 2020. I think they also realised that Valentine cannot go out frequently because of the pandemic.

A pandemic'll do that.
Mathuvan Union wrote:I licked the Gum Wall in Seattle and I’m not dead (yet)!

I don't even know why that exists.

There was once like 4-9, but the government shut them down.
It’s urban legend, tbh.
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:54 pm

When I heard Gum Wall, I thought it would be one of those "This wall is made out of soft candy!" Which is... unsanitary and disgusting but hey, actual edible gum! Like Willy Wonka's candy wallpaper.

... The reality is a big disaster.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:58 pm

Valentine Z wrote:When I heard Gum Wall, I thought it would be one of those "This wall is made out of soft candy!" Which is... unsanitary and disgusting but hey, actual edible gum! Like Willy Wonka's candy wallpaper.

... The reality is a big disaster.

I’ll point out the gum-drawing I made for a nickel.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:58 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:A pandemic'll do that.
I don't even know why that exists.

There was once like 4-9, but the government shut them down.
It’s urban legend, tbh.

Urban legends are cool.
Valentine Z wrote:When I heard Gum Wall, I thought it would be one of those "This wall is made out of soft candy!" Which is... unsanitary and disgusting but hey, actual edible gum! Like Willy Wonka's candy wallpaper.

... The reality is a big disaster.

Reality do be like that.
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:58 pm

Abserdia wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:In the 19th century, they just yanked your teeth out and hoped for the best. They also had no real knowledge of germs.

I actually just read an article about something related to this. Apparently back in the day people scavenged battlefields to make dentures from the teeth of dead soldiers, which they sold to aristocrats.

Heloin wrote:Ah yes, the time of imperialism and colonialism. Nothing but sunshine and rainbows came out of that train wreck.

Good setting for a grand strategy game though.

Makes me wish for a Total War game set in the 1800s.

What? The 1700s are covered by Empire: Total War!
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Postby Abserdia » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:01 pm

New Visayan Islands wrote:
Abserdia wrote:I actually just read an article about something related to this. Apparently back in the day people scavenged battlefields to make dentures from the teeth of dead soldiers, which they sold to aristocrats.


Good setting for a grand strategy game though.

Makes me wish for a Total War game set in the 1800s.

What? The 1700s are covered by Empire: Total War!

Isn’t there a Napoleon game that people are iffy about?
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:01 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:There was once like 4-9, but the government shut them down.
It’s urban legend, tbh.

Urban legends are cool.
Valentine Z wrote:When I heard Gum Wall, I thought it would be one of those "This wall is made out of soft candy!" Which is... unsanitary and disgusting but hey, actual edible gum! Like Willy Wonka's candy wallpaper.

... The reality is a big disaster.

Reality do be like that.

Urban Legend is hard to find, but always unique.
Reality sucks.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:04 pm

New Visayan Islands wrote:
Abserdia wrote:I actually just read an article about something related to this. Apparently back in the day people scavenged battlefields to make dentures from the teeth of dead soldiers, which they sold to aristocrats.


Good setting for a grand strategy game though.

Makes me wish for a Total War game set in the 1800s.

What? The 1700s are covered by Empire: Total War!

I want Paradox Interactive to release a new game that isn’t a extension of a series. CK3 is getting old.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:06 pm

Abserdia wrote:
New Visayan Islands wrote:Makes me wish for a Total War game set in the 1800s.

What? The 1700s are covered by Empire: Total War!

Isn’t there a Napoleon game that people are iffy about?

The Napoleon game is good, the mechanics are on a par with Empire.. I prefer Empire, though, because it isn't as locked into a ... well, Napoleon revolves around Napoleon. Empire is more open-ended. I built a beautiful French Republican empire, dominating Europe and North America and India. Now and then I summon it up and just go sailing from one place to another.
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