Anti-Socialism Thread

[Aureumterra III]

Ohhh that sub

The one that said the Belarus protestors were crisis actors paid by the CIA controlled by NATO and the Jews?

Actually it was the "The end of American hegemony" thread. Purpelia implicitly called Stylan a cheater for engaging in Gish Gallop and he magically disappeared from the debate.

I was talking about the subreddit in general, it’s seriously one of the most insane looking places on the internet. You have posts that get voted to the top on a daily basis accusing the CIA of funding any anti communist protest or movement anywhere, they called the Belarus protests a military coup attempt

[Cordel One]

Can I make the next anti-socialism thread? It's a great place to discuss leftism with like-minded comrades

[Sanghyeok]

Can I make the next anti-socialism thread? It's a great place to discuss leftism with like-minded comrades

Cries in my dying Marxism II thread >.<

(We can really use some discussion on the questions I asked there)

[The New California Republic]

Can I make the next anti-socialism thread? It's a great place to discuss leftism with like-minded comrades

...lol. But in all seriousness this thread has totally deviated from the original intent of the creator.

[Kowani]

A lot of working people are against leftism because many of the highly educated managerial class support ideas on the left that are antithetical to their well being. This includes things like open borders which allows lots of immigrants into a country irregardless of their skills, causing large losses in wages for the working class.

Imagine setting out to defend the working class and having your defense be "they believe objectively untrue things"

There are also ideas about trade liberalization which can be viewed as either left or right which allows the flow of corporations out of the country into places where wages are lower.

...How on earth is the free movement of corporations a left-wing idea?

Unfortunately, offshoring has not stopped under liberal governments.

Probably because liberals are economically right-wing, that'd be why.

Populists appeal to many of the working class because they will reduce the amount of immigrants, create tariffs protecting jobs,

So, just to be clear, your defense of the working class is that they believe populists will do things that objectively won't help them.

and not claim that the only way to improve your life is to get an education. Many of the working class do not want the college education that is pushed on them. There is often a demeaning of trade skills like construction, carpentry, and other skills on the left.

...You haven't met any leftists, have you.

Many see government as antithetical to their interest.

That they have been subject to decades of corporate propaganda is not their fault, but it does lead to them holding unfortunate beliefs.

They will get higher taxes and interference in their life. They are not on social services or the dole and increasing welfare won't help them. They want better services and the ability to easily create new business for them. Their future is not a college education, but owning a bakery, being a tradesman, or serving in the army.

Imagine thinking that "lower taxes lol" is the only thing that allows for small businesses. Its not like regulation of large corporations, investment in public infrastructure, or a clean environment help small businesses grow and survive or anything.

These people are not having their needs met by the left. The left fails to invest for the small shopkeeper, the tradesman, and it leaves them open to the right because it is easier to get a business loan and have lower taxes on the right.

Congratulations. Now notice how those loans are left completely unregulated and predatory, the street in front of the business goes unmaintained, and nobody can afford to shop there because their wages only stretch enough to allow them to shop at Walmart.

Also recently, those on the left have done little to support unions.

laughs in Bernie Sanders

The minimum wage is not a union or organized trade. The focus on minimum wage jobs does not create better jobs for people.

Do you know how aggregate demand works

It generates higher wages for customer service jobs and other jobs as servants basically for the elite.

All jobs under capitalism exist in servitude to the elite. The McDonalds worker and the auto-worker are not any more "free" than the other, the latter just gets paid more. We would prefer it if less people were in poverty.

Socialism and government is viewed by many working people as not in their interest.

Decades of propaganda and not knowing what leftism or socialism are will do that to you.

[Sanghyeok]

Can I make the next anti-socialism thread? It's a great place to discuss leftism with like-minded comrades

...lol. But in all seriousness this thread has totally deviated from the original intent of the creator.

Marx was right again, the capitalist thread has now transitioned successfully towards socialism.

[Aureumterra III]

Can I make the next anti-socialism thread? It's a great place to discuss leftism with like-minded comrades

Trying to make an actual anti-socialism thread on NSG is futile, when you have en echo chamber, it’s hard to burst the bubble

[Kubra]

Can I make the next anti-socialism thread? It's a great place to discuss leftism with like-minded comrades

Trying to make an actual anti-socialism thread on NSG is futile, when you have en echo chamber, it’s hard to burst the bubble

Buddy, throughout the existence of the the wing general threads the right wing one was magnitudes more popular than the left wing one.

[Woldoina]

A lot of commies here... I know my eco is socailsit now but Im going to change that. Im a conseritive at heart and I feel sorry for all conseritives who are harrased by the commies here.

[Nilokeras]

Can I make the next anti-socialism thread? It's a great place to discuss leftism with like-minded comrades

Trying to make an actual anti-socialism thread on NSG is futile, when you have en echo chamber, it’s hard to burst the bubble

'Ugh it's such an echo chamber' they say while actively participating constructively as one of several right-wingers in a left-wing discussion thread

[The Huskar Social Union]

Can I make the next anti-socialism thread? It's a great place to discuss leftism with like-minded comrades

...lol. But in all seriousness this thread has totally deviated from the original intent of the creator.

One might say you seized the means of discussion.

[No State Here]

A lot of commies here... I know my eco is socailsit now but Im going to change that. Im a conseritive at heart and I feel sorry for all conseritives who are harrased by the commies here.

Most of the harassment here is astroturfing AKA one person using multiple accounts to make it seem like a group of people, and then harass a single target to try and make them stop posting or something

I don’t understand what enjoyment people get out of online bullying, I assume it’s just to project their own insecurities, or they’re just shitty people

That being said, it’s only a "few bad apples"

[Aureumterra III]

Trying to make an actual anti-socialism thread on NSG is futile, when you have en echo chamber, it’s hard to burst the bubble

'Ugh it's such an echo chamber' they say while actively participating constructively as one of several right-wingers in a left-wing discussion thread

This is a left wing discussion thread?

[Nuroblav]

...lol. But in all seriousness this thread has totally deviated from the original intent of the creator.

One might say you seized the means of discussion.

This thread is now owned by the workers - time for horizontal working and the establishment of worker co-ops.

'Ugh it's such an echo chamber' they say while actively participating constructively as one of several right-wingers in a left-wing discussion thread

I was going to say that this is actually technically a right-wing discussion thread, but it's pretty much delved into other areas now.

[Kubra]

A lot of commies here... I know my eco is socailsit now but Im going to change that. Im a conseritive at heart and I feel sorry for all conseritives who are harrased by the commies here.

Most of the harassment here is astroturfing AKA one person using multiple accounts to make it seem like a group of people, and then harass a single target to try and make them stop posting or something

I don’t understand what enjoyment people get out of online bullying, I assume it’s just to project their own insecurities, or they’re just shitty people

That being said, it’s only a "few bad apples"

Do you want me to screenshot my (you)'s, bud?

[Nilokeras]

'Ugh it's such an echo chamber' they say while actively participating constructively as one of several right-wingers in a left-wing discussion thread

This is a left wing discussion thread?

In the absence of the drive-by-posting OP to direct proceedings it was bound to happen.

[Sanghyeok]

This is a left wing discussion thread?

In the absence of the drive-by-posting OP to direct proceedings it was bound to happen.

Why is Comrade Lenin drinking tea in front of a computer?

[Kubra]

In the absence of the drive-by-posting OP to direct proceedings it was bound to happen.

Why is Comrade Lenin drinking tea in front of a computer?

he's shitposting

[Kowani]

Why is Comrade Lenin drinking tea in front of a computer?

he's shitposting

Ah yes, praxis

[Railroad Crossing]

Socialism looks like a good policy, but being an American, I must like capitalism

[Kowani]

Socialism looks like a good policy, but being an American, I must like capitalism

That makes no sense. Socialism isn't "anti-American" any more than abolitionism was.

[Langenia]

Though my nation is "socialist," in real life that contradicts my fervent antisocialist political views. In reality, my nation is just a demonstration as to why we shouldn't support socialism, because then it undermines freedom and democracy.

[Nilokeras]

he's shitposting

Ah yes, praxis

brb just going to slide into Karensky's DMs and call him a cucked lib

[Kiu Ghesik]

In the absence of the drive-by-posting OP to direct proceedings it was bound to happen.

Why is Comrade Lenin drinking tea in front of a computer?

Why not?
He's consulting with Cordel on how to translate the Immortal Marx' work 2̕͠͏̮̥͕̬̲̫̝̦͕͈͙̩̠̥͕͘j̧͏͍̠͓̭̜͎̩̪̞͕͔̫͔ͅH̢͢҉̲̲̥͚̦̗͚͖͕i̙͚̬̱͉͔͕͝7̵̛̟̤̘͉̺͕͙̮̤̣͎̘̝̞͓̞̞̩̀͝ͅV̷̷̧̬̩̟̯͉̜̻̥̲̬͖͠M̸̵͡͏̥̳̙̪̫̘̥̖̗̟͖̝̣̹̟͎̬͍X̷̛̥̫̯̪͎̞̲͔͘F͏̬̦͚̮͍̳̥̟̼̥͔̦͢4̡̩͉͉̣̟̫͖̼̬̣͈͖͉̤̩͍̯͘͢V̷̰̖̼̝̞͟͢X̸̹̞̱̬̰͎̥̙́X̛̰̫̼̭̤͚͔͈̯͍̠͘͟f̴̸̢͎͈͍̟̯̟͎̪̣̻̞̲̲͙̜̼͟͝7̛̝̘̺̞̙͖̰͍͝ͅͅş̮̣̗͟ͅP̴̧̳̳͖̞̯͎͇͎͉̦̳̝̤̝̥͔̘̕͜͠Ạ̛̯͖͉̺̟͖̜̗̖̯͖̘͘͝ͅḾ͇̞̹͢ͅc̨͉̬̻̭̯͔̭̫͈͈̮̲͓v̸̢̠̲̩͎̼̹̦̼͘͝r̵͉̯̞̦͢͜C̀҉̟̭̯̖̯̺͔̹͙͎͕͕̻̲̦̺c̵͓̫̲̯̥̭̩͍̫̤̝̲̫̩̬̥̼̬͚͡K̕͜҉̘͎̗̫̟͓̖͎͍̥̝͞m̶̧̼̦͚̦͚͈͢͠͞c҉̴̜͕͇4̧̣̪̭̱̀́͜T̷͉̼̯̖͘͢4̢̛̫̩̝ͅE҉̷̛͔̹̩͔̣̖̞͉̪̤̤̱̦̭ͅB̷̸͔͙͙͉̗̭͕̬̰̦̜͔̫̻͕̲ͅͅ, an early-level text published shortly after his 2024 revival

[-Ra-]

Socialism looks like a good policy, but being an American, I must like capitalism

That makes no sense. Socialism isn't "anti-American" any more than abolitionism was.

As a country that values individualism, democracy and freedom, I think the US is antithetical to socialism.