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Who is your favourite anti-socialist author?

Poll ended at Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:23 am

Milton Friedman
9
15%
Ludwig von Mises
3
5%
Thomas Sowell
6
10%
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
10
16%
Ayn Rand
9
15%
Friedrich Hayek
0
No votes
Irving Kristol
1
2%
Karl Popper
6
10%
Boris Pasternak
6
10%
Other
12
19%
 
Total votes : 62

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Romextly
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Postby Romextly » Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:55 pm

Odreria wrote:
Nilokeras wrote:
it's not our fault us socialists keep winning the debate, we're just too good

the rightwingers in this thread got emotional and couldn't handle our facts and logic.

Oh, right-wingers in this thread okay

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Postby -Ra- » Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:57 pm

If anyone wants to discuss the evils of the Chinese government, there is also this. Let me know what you think.

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Postby Nakena » Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:58 pm

Nilokeras wrote:
Romextly wrote:Uh, how exactly is this anti-socialist?


it's not our fault us socialists keep winning the debate, we're just too good


When they sending us the right-wingers, they do not send us the best.

And if this is the best they got, then it must be really bad for them.

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Postby Romextly » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:00 pm

Nakena wrote:
Nilokeras wrote:
it's not our fault us socialists keep winning the debate, we're just too good


When they sending us the right-wingers, they do not send us the best.

And if this is the best they got, then it must be really bad for them.

That is very true

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Postby Picairn » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:02 pm

Nakena wrote:When they sending us the right-wingers, they do not send us the best.

"They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing racism. They're bringing fascism. They're Nazis. And some, I assume, are good people." - Comrade Donald Trump, Antifa soldier and veteran of the culture wars.
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Postby Chemgota » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:07 pm

Preferably I support Social Democracy, however I do agree that Liberal and Republican idealist focus more on the people of their represented nations, after all the people are the backbone of the civilization and they must be rewarded for their doings, however still keeping a safe and secure Democratic society for all to enjoy and have the luxuries to do so along with improvements to the welfare and income equality would be a great start for reforms to the social sector. And in becoming a mixed economy to support both the people and the private sectors. In which Liberalism and Republicanism agree to settle their differences for the common good, but only if they'd agreed. Either way though, I'd say a majority of Socialists would want something like this, but it's the Far Left and Far Right what makes the political situation a struggle which divides both sides further as time continues. By the way I believe Fascism and Communism is an oppressive system which exploits and uses the 'People' in a way to sound legitimate and to gain attention and popular support, especially during the 20th century.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:16 pm

Picairn wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
You know, I miss when "rightists" were just the throne and altar gang.

They got wiped by WW1. A ruinously expensive world war that destroyed monarchial empires.


Yeah, I'm aware of WWI.

It also nearly destroyed a lot more than that.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:25 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Picairn wrote:They got wiped by WW1. A ruinously expensive world war that destroyed monarchial empires.


Yeah, I'm aware of WWI.

It also nearly destroyed a lot more than that.


What else it would have nearly destroyed as well?

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:26 pm

Chemgota wrote:Preferably I support Social Democracy, however I do agree that Liberal and Republican idealist focus more on the people of their represented nations, after all the people are the backbone of the civilization and they must be rewarded for their doings, however still keeping a safe and secure Democratic society for all to enjoy and have the luxuries to do so along with improvements to the welfare and income equality would be a great start for reforms to the social sector. And in becoming a mixed economy to support both the people and the private sectors. In which Liberalism and Republicanism agree to settle their differences for the common good, but only if they'd agreed. Either way though, I'd say a majority of Socialists would want something like this, but it's the Far Left and Far Right what makes the political situation a struggle which divides both sides further as time continues. By the way I believe Fascism and Communism is an oppressive system which exploits and uses the 'People' in a way to sound legitimate and to gain attention and popular support, especially during the 20th century.

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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:32 pm

Nakena wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Yeah, I'm aware of WWI.

It also nearly destroyed a lot more than that.


What else it would have nearly destroyed as well?


France, Britain, pretty much everyone involved.
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Postby Untecna » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:34 pm

Nilokeras wrote:
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the actual what

SOCIALISM BAD, END OF STORY
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Postby Odreria » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:34 pm

Untecna wrote:
Nilokeras wrote:
Daily reminder that loving your race starts at home, in bed with your siblings

the actual what

SOCIALISM BAD, END OF STORY

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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:34 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Some also like asian males. If they are cute. uWu

Asians are an attractive race but I don’t the idea of them stealing my sisters and women


1. Women are not your property so no "stealing" is involved.

2. If you can salivate over Asian women, white women can like men of other races too.

3. Race doesn't bloody matter. Who cares if people are white or whatever.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:35 pm

Nakena wrote:
Some also like asian males. If they are cute. uWu


The next person who says uwu or owo here gets put in a penal colony.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:36 pm

Lusai wrote:neofuedalist patchwork let's go


Not a feudalist.

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
You know, I miss when "rightists" were just the throne and altar gang.


Compared to fascism, people actually caring about and killing each other over dynastic disputes is sort of innocently wholesome.


Dynastic disputes are not really any different from military interventions to force regime changes.

It's all about the sphere of influence.

No State Here wrote:Why would you miss unaccountable leaders who held an elite status over the people they govern?


I would argue that they weren't unaccountable. Particularly later on.

When Trump pardons himself, however, then we'll have unaccountable leadership.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:39 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Lusai wrote:neofuedalist patchwork let's go


Not a feudalist.

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Compared to fascism, people actually caring about and killing each other over dynastic disputes is sort of innocently wholesome.


Dynastic disputes are not really any different from military interventions to force regime changes.

It's all about the sphere of influence.


Towards the end of the 18th century things got increasingly peaceful and War in Europe became less commonplace. Wouldn it have been for the French Revolution and it's consequences this era may have continued for long times to come.

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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:39 pm

Picairn wrote:
Nakena wrote:When they sending us the right-wingers, they do not send us the best.

"They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing racism. They're bringing fascism. They're Nazis. And some, I assume, are good people." - Comrade Donald Trump, Antifa soldier and veteran of the culture wars.

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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:41 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Some also like asian males. If they are cute. uWu


The next person who says uwu or owo here gets put in a penal colony.

penal colony? sounds like an off-brand gulag to me uwu
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:42 pm

Untecna wrote:
Nilokeras wrote:
Daily reminder that loving your race starts at home, in bed with your siblings

the actual what

CAPITALIZIM BAD, END OF STORY

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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:44 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
The next person who says uwu or owo here gets put in a penal colony.

penal colony? sounds like an off-brand gulag to me uwu


It's Australia.

Have fun with the giant spiders.
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:00 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:penal colony? sounds like an off-brand gulag to me uwu


It's Australia.

Have fun with the giant spiders.

;(
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Postby Giovenith » Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:45 pm

The topic of this thread is anti-socialist views, not racial fetishization. Please drop the threadjack and get back on topic.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:17 pm

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Postby Cordel One » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:18 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:(Image)

I agree with you, but...

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Postby -Astoria- » Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:09 pm

Chemgota wrote:Preferably I support Social Democracy, however I do agree that Liberal and Republican idealist focus more on the people of their represented nations, after all the people are the backbone of the civilization and they must be rewarded for their doings, however still keeping a safe and secure Democratic society for all to enjoy and have the luxuries to do so along with improvements to the welfare and income equality would be a great start for reforms to the social sector. And in becoming a mixed economy to support both the people and the private sectors. In which Liberalism and Republicanism agree to settle their differences for the common good, but only if they'd agreed. Either way though, I'd say a majority of Socialists would want something like this, but it's the Far Left and Far Right what makes the political situation a struggle which divides both sides further as time continues. By the way I believe Fascism and Communism is an oppressive system which exploits and uses the 'People' in a way to sound legitimate and to gain attention and popular support, especially during the 20th century.

Probably the best take on this thread so far. :clap:
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