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Who is your favourite anti-socialist author?

Poll ended at Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:23 am

Milton Friedman
9
15%
Ludwig von Mises
3
5%
Thomas Sowell
6
10%
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
10
16%
Ayn Rand
9
15%
Friedrich Hayek
0
No votes
Irving Kristol
1
2%
Karl Popper
6
10%
Boris Pasternak
6
10%
Other
12
19%
 
Total votes : 62

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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:52 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Crysuko wrote:quote it


The Reformed American Republic wrote:In addition, it's actually wrong, as I am critical of capitalism, so it is even more out of place. If you don't get it, it's on you.


Bother to read any post I have made in the healthcare thread or most other threads and you'd find I support single payer nationalized healthcare. I'm not very capitalistic.

who are you trying to fool. you say you are, and yet fail to do any criticising at all, and have vehemently defended it and cried MUH WHATABOUTISM at every turn. stop lying, you're terrible at it.
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Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:55 pm

Since apparently two people cannot emotionally handle me criticizing Mao and to be honest are probably just trying to bait me into getting into trouble with moderation, both of them are now added to my foes list.
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:56 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Since apparently two people cannot emotionally handle me criticizing Mao and to be honest are probably just trying to bait me into getting into trouble with moderation, both of them are now added to my foes list.

your concession of defeat has been acknowledged.
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:56 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Since apparently two people cannot emotionally handle me criticizing Mao

Ah yes, my problem is that I am so overwrought with grief and anger at the thought of anyone criticizing the Great Helmsman of the Nation
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Postby Kubra » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:58 pm

I dunno it seems you lot are talking past each other, I don't think ya'll are on the same page.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:59 pm

Kubra wrote:I dunno it seems you lot are talking past each other, I don't think ya'll are on the same page.

I agree. For once.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:59 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:I think The Reformed American Republic is anticapitalist too

Not everyone who doesn't like Trump is an anti-capitalist. He's a conservative social democrat I think.

To an extent yes, though that's still anti-capitalist. I'm definitely not pro-capitalist and wouldn't inherently object to seeing it go.
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Postby Crysuko » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:59 pm

Kubra wrote:I dunno it seems you lot are talking past each other, I don't think ya'll are on the same page.

I nailed him down on his lies and he went off to sulk.
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:59 pm

Crysuko wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Since apparently two people cannot emotionally handle me criticizing Mao and to be honest are probably just trying to bait me into getting into trouble with moderation, both of them are now added to my foes list.

your concession of defeat has been acknowledged.

Are you a Maoist? Or a generic communist?
Right wing conservative
Media is the enemy of the people
CCP delenda est
orange man bad. diversity is our strength. real communism hasn’t been tried yet. the hong kong protestors are paid by the cia. antifa protestors are good, hong kong protestors are american bootlickers. China is a better alternative to America. uyghur genocide isn’t real, and it is western propaganda. Trump should not have killed Soleimani. gender is a social construct invented by white supremacists.

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Postby Crysuko » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:00 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:your concession of defeat has been acknowledged.

Are you a Maoist? Or a generic communist?

Syndicalist.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Kexholm Karelia
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:00 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Are you a Maoist? Or a generic communist?

Syndicalist.

Wait so why are you defending Mao?
Right wing conservative
Media is the enemy of the people
CCP delenda est
orange man bad. diversity is our strength. real communism hasn’t been tried yet. the hong kong protestors are paid by the cia. antifa protestors are good, hong kong protestors are american bootlickers. China is a better alternative to America. uyghur genocide isn’t real, and it is western propaganda. Trump should not have killed Soleimani. gender is a social construct invented by white supremacists.

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:01 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:your concession of defeat has been acknowledged.

Are you a Maoist? Or a generic communist?

stunning though it may be to you, not everyone who offers substantive criticisms of capitalism and the American political system is a hardcore Maoist who thinks the only problem with the Great Leap was that the Chinese people didn't believe in the chairman's vision hard enough
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:02 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Syndicalist.

Wait so why are you defending Mao?

I wasn't. I wanted him to acknowledge that free market capitalism isn't immune to criticism as far as preventable deaths go.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:02 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Syndicalist.

Wait so why are you defending Mao?

quote me the defense offered, by Crysuko or anyone else in the past two pages, of Mao, the Great Leap/Cultural Revolution, Mao Zedong Thought, or literally anything else remotely related to the man
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Kexholm Karelia
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:02 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Are you a Maoist? Or a generic communist?

stunning though it may be to you, not everyone who offers substantive criticisms of capitalism and the American political system is a hardcore Maoist who thinks the only problem with the Great Leap was that the Chinese people didn't believe in the chairman's vision hard enough

No I ask because they defended Mao(?)

I’m not sure what exactly everyone’s ideologies are because there’s too many people, there is one open Maoist here
Right wing conservative
Media is the enemy of the people
CCP delenda est
orange man bad. diversity is our strength. real communism hasn’t been tried yet. the hong kong protestors are paid by the cia. antifa protestors are good, hong kong protestors are american bootlickers. China is a better alternative to America. uyghur genocide isn’t real, and it is western propaganda. Trump should not have killed Soleimani. gender is a social construct invented by white supremacists.

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:04 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:stunning though it may be to you, not everyone who offers substantive criticisms of capitalism and the American political system is a hardcore Maoist who thinks the only problem with the Great Leap was that the Chinese people didn't believe in the chairman's vision hard enough

No I ask because they defended Mao(?)

show me where

I’m not sure what exactly everyone’s ideologies are because there’s too many people, there is one open Maoist here

"you're a Maoist! you want the great leap! you're defending the cultural revolution!" seems to be one of two rhetorical tools you have in this thread, the other being "you're a Stalinist! you want the great purge! you're defending the gulags!"
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The Reformed American Republic
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:04 pm

Kubra wrote:I dunno it seems you lot are talking past each other, I don't think ya'll are on the same page.

More like an unwillingness to comprehend words or being deliberately obtuse. They can say what they want. I'm not clicking "display this post."
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Crysuko
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Postby Crysuko » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:04 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:stunning though it may be to you, not everyone who offers substantive criticisms of capitalism and the American political system is a hardcore Maoist who thinks the only problem with the Great Leap was that the Chinese people didn't believe in the chairman's vision hard enough

No I ask because they defended Mao(?)

I’m not sure what exactly everyone’s ideologies are because there’s too many people, there is one open Maoist here

show me. show me exactly where I defended him.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:38 pm

Geez, the monarchist leaves the thread for a few hours and all you republicans have made a real mess of things.

Do I need to ask the Queen to wag her finger at you and tell you all to behave?
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Postby Crysuko » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:43 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Geez, the monarchist leaves the thread for a few hours and all you republicans have made a real mess of things.

Do I need to ask the Queen to wag her finger at you and tell you all to behave?

As long as it’s the European style of republican then it’s k.
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Nakena
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Postby Nakena » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:48 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Geez, the monarchist leaves the thread for a few hours and all you republicans have made a real mess of things.

Do I need to ask the Queen to wag her finger at you and tell you all to behave?


Yes.

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Postby Nilokeras » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:10 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Geez, the monarchist leaves the thread for a few hours and all you republicans have made a real mess of things.

Do I need to ask the Queen to wag her finger at you and tell you all to behave?


Image

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Postby Nakena » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:15 pm

Nilokeras wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Geez, the monarchist leaves the thread for a few hours and all you republicans have made a real mess of things.

Do I need to ask the Queen to wag her finger at you and tell you all to behave?


Image


The thread is complete now.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:24 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:your concession of defeat has been acknowledged.

Are you a Maoist? Or a generic communist?

I'm a Cultural Maoist, but my party membership is Antifa.
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:27 pm

Sanghyeok wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Are you a Maoist? Or a generic communist?

I'm a Cultural Maoist, but my party membership is Antifa.

is that like being a cultural marxist? that's my party of choice.
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