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Who is your favourite anti-socialist author?

Poll ended at Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:23 am

Milton Friedman
9
15%
Ludwig von Mises
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5%
Thomas Sowell
6
10%
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
10
16%
Ayn Rand
9
15%
Friedrich Hayek
0
No votes
Irving Kristol
1
2%
Karl Popper
6
10%
Boris Pasternak
6
10%
Other
12
19%
 
Total votes : 62

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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:25 pm

Rhodesia isn't the topic of the thread.
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:25 pm

Partash wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:something somthing Rhodesia something something almost a paradise for whites and blacks something something i'm not a white 'supremacist'

Didn't Dylnan Roof use Rhodesia in his manifesto, something about white genocide?

of fucking course he did, why not? but clearly, rijk van africa isn't """racist"""!!!!!
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Postby Partash » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:25 pm

Rijk van Afrika wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:He was racist to slovenes and africans.

Everybody is a little bit racist

Grill Pill wrote:Partially yeah. Allying with Hitler and not the USSR is why he's not a real fascist imo

In some ways, the USSR was more fascist than Germany.

Partash wrote:>"i'm not racist, I have a asian friend"

I'm just saying, Asians are high IQ and have beautiful doll women.

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:something somthing Rhodesia something something almost a paradise for whites and blacks something something i'm not a white 'supremacist'

You can deny the facts all you like buddy, but Rhodesia was better than Zimbabwe is now

Hey, umm, quick question, what's this about race and IQ? Hasn't it been proven time and time again it's mostly environmental? Also isn't this thread on anti-communism?
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Postby Grill Pill » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:25 pm

VlaRiSsiA wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Please repost this to Grill Pit, my reply was a joke. I find them centrist at best and centre-right at worst.

Apologize for my misunderstanding lmao. But I doubt a wall of text would be able to convince the satirically bizarre Grill Pill

Didn't see this one my bad.

I'd argue that focusing on racial collectivization and national identity over that of the worker was a unique form of socialism.

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:26 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
Rijk van Afrika wrote:I don't think you know what the word 'racist' means. I don't have a racist bone in my body. For example, I know plenty of Asians. Good food, exotic women, what's not to like?

you do realize saying asian women are exotic is racist, right? racism doesn't have to be literal slavery.

Exotic can mean "interesting". Plus, if that's true many Russians are Racist because they have no problem using the n word, even in childrens books. No, I am not kidding.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:26 pm

Partash wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:something somthing Rhodesia something something almost a paradise for whites and blacks something something i'm not a white 'supremacist'

Didn't Dylnan Roof use Rhodesia in his manifesto, something about white genocide?

Zimbabwe was a disaster, so stopped clock there.
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Postby Picairn » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:26 pm

Senkaku wrote:What is the point or topic of this thread? I feel like at this point it's just ideological conflict and vague sparring over whatever whoever's online feels like brawling about, and somehow every time I check it it's grown by five pages

The point is to make cheap shots at each other while staying under the mods' radar. An inevitable consequence of partisan and ideological clashing.
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Postby Rijk van Afrika » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:26 pm

Partash wrote:Hey, umm, quick question, what's this about race and IQ? Hasn't it been proven time and time again it's mostly environmental? Also isn't this thread on anti-communism?

Um I never said IQ was largely biological. If anything, it's mostly environmental. It just so happens that Asian culture leads to higher IQs

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Postby Rijk van Afrika » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:27 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Rhodesia isn't the topic of the thread.

Yes, I'm not really sure why people try making ad homenim attacks against me because I have a Rhodesian nation concept

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Postby Grill Pill » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:27 pm

Picairn wrote:
Senkaku wrote:What is the point or topic of this thread? I feel like at this point it's just ideological conflict and vague sparring over whatever whoever's online feels like brawling about, and somehow every time I check it it's grown by five pages

The point is to make cheap shots at each other while staying under the mods' radar. An inevitable consequence of partisan and ideological clashing.

AMEN fella. I'd revive the centrism thread but I'm afraid the partisans here won't take the heat of the grill too well :rofl:.

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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:27 pm

nevermind rijk, I do not want your racist drugs, and will not seize them to redistribute to the proletarian. anyway, back on topic, Vietnam, discuss.
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Postby Partash » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:28 pm

Alright lads, let's move back on topic to socialism, before the mod's attack us and we get pounced.

How about we move onto the actual so called "death toll" of socialism? What is it?
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Postby Grill Pill » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:28 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:nevermind rijk, I do not want your racist drugs, and will not seize them to redistribute to the proletarian. anyway, back on topic, Vietnam, discuss.

Ho Chi Minh hated the French so while I disagree with him ideologically I have respect for his cause

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:28 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:nevermind rijk, I do not want your racist drugs, and will not seize them to redistribute to the proletarian. anyway, back on topic, Vietnam, discuss.

It was a bad war, but we have to honour every veteran in it who didn't commit warcrimes.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:29 pm

Partash wrote:Alright lads, let's move back on topic to socialism, before the mod's attack us and we get pounced.

How about we move onto the actual so called "death toll" of socialism? What is it?

If I had to say, 60 Million or so.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:30 pm

Partash wrote:Alright lads, let's move back on topic to socialism, before the mod's attack us and we get pounced.

How about we move onto the actual so called "death toll" of socialism? What is it?

It's going to be less than when billions of people end up living in uninhabitable areas thanks to run away consumerism.
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:30 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:nevermind rijk, I do not want your racist drugs, and will not seize them to redistribute to the proletarian. anyway, back on topic, Vietnam, discuss.

It was a bad war, but we have to honour every veteran in it who didn't commit warcrimes.

I meant more like the country and socialism, but the war is connected and as much as I dislike military intervention, you're right.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:30 pm

Partash wrote:Alright lads, let's move back on topic to socialism, before the mod's attack us and we get pounced.

How about we move onto the actual so called "death toll" of socialism? What is it?

People like Stalin should be held responsible for the millions they killed. I don't care if it was due to industrialization, it's not like Stalin cared for human life.


It doesn't mean we should support uber-capitalism, but I object to socialist apologetics for dictators.
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Postby Grill Pill » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:31 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Partash wrote:Alright lads, let's move back on topic to socialism, before the mod's attack us and we get pounced.

How about we move onto the actual so called "death toll" of socialism? What is it?

It's going to be less than when billions of people end up living in uninhabitable areas thanks to run away consumerism.

Is consumerism not a form of socialism? After all it is the large-scale distribution of the fruits of someone's labour to the masses. Look up People's Republic of Wal-Mart as an example

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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:32 pm

Partash wrote:Alright lads, let's move back on topic to socialism, before the mod's attack us and we get pounced.

How about we move onto the actual so called "death toll" of socialism? What is it?

I think it's a waste of time to try to come up with death tolls for an idealogy because it's really subjective and you can disagree with something without knowing exactly how many people it killed.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:32 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:It was a bad war, but we have to honour every veteran in it who didn't commit warcrimes.

I meant more like the country and socialism, but the war is connected and as much as I dislike military intervention, you're right.

Oh, Vietnam. It's a chinese puppet that will follow it's daddy's footsteps until it is integrated as an "autonomous" region.
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Postby Partash » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:33 pm

Grill Pill wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:It's going to be less than when billions of people end up living in uninhabitable areas thanks to run away consumerism.

Is consumerism not a form of socialism? After all it is the large-scale distribution of the fruits of someone's labour to the masses. Look up People's Republic of Wal-Mart as an example

This singular quote has made me want to jump out of the window, onto the street, and to then start yodeling.

God, this better be satire.
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:33 pm

Grill Pill wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:It's going to be less than when billions of people end up living in uninhabitable areas thanks to run away consumerism.

Is consumerism not a form of socialism? After all it is the large-scale distribution of the fruits of someone's labour to the masses. Look up People's Republic of Wal-Mart as an example

anything can be a people's republic if you we put your our mind to it
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Postby Rijk van Afrika » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:34 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:nevermind rijk, I do not want your racist drugs, and will not seize them to redistribute to the proletarian. anyway, back on topic, Vietnam, discuss.

hahaha very funny

Vietnam is communist and therefore a failed state, and its GDP per capita reflect this. Still, the Vietnamese people are industrious, well-educated, and hard working and their women are gorgeous in their ao dais.

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Postby Picairn » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:34 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:People like Stalin should be held responsible for the millions they killed. I don't care if it was due to industrialization, it's not like Stalin cared for human life.


It doesn't mean we should support uber-capitalism, but I object to socialist apologetics for dictators.

Agreed.
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