Anti-Socialism Thread

[-Ra-]

A liberal-conservative, so I lie on that spectrum.

sounds like an oxymoron, but ok

Really?

The ultimate objective of conservatism is to protect (conserve) liberal institutions.

[Senkaku]

The Soviet Union only started doing good after it opened up its economy and liberalized its social policies. Not to mention the fact that the Soviet Union was in a terrible state in terms of its economy and could not keep up with capitalist economies, which is why it collapsed. Thank you for literally proving my point that liberalizing your economy works.

In addition to some reading about Argentina's economic history, I would suggest brushing up on Russian history in the 1990s. Shock therapy was not a fun time, and subsequent Russian economic history has (not unlike Chilean and Bolivian economic history) been shaped more by global commodity prices (in their case, oil) than anything else.

[Odreria]

Is it too much to ask for both?

Uh oh, another "libertarian" leftist speaking the quiet parts loud?

Uh oh, another "libertarian" leftist speaking the quiet parts loud?

Yes, a self-proclaimed tankie's views once again are representative of all leftists

I never called myself either of those things but ok

[-Ra-]

The Soviet Union only started doing good after it opened up its economy and liberalized its social policies. Not to mention the fact that the Soviet Union was in a terrible state in terms of its economy and could not keep up with capitalist economies, which is why it collapsed. Thank you for literally proving my point that liberalizing your economy works.

In addition to some reading about Argentina's economic history, I would suggest brushing up on Russian history in the 1990s. Shock therapy was not a fun time, and subsequent Russian economic history has (not unlike Chilean and Bolivian economic history) been shaped more by global commodity prices (in their case, oil) than anything else.

No time in Soviet history was a particularly fun time, but it was a far cry from the age of Stalin and engineered famines.

You would do well to read into the issue yourself.

[Picairn]

I never called myself either of those things but ok

Your own political tests in your sig says you're a tankie.

[-Ra-]

I never called myself either of those things but ok

Your own political tests in your sig says you're a tankie.

He's a tankie. Just move on with it.

[Marsane]

The ultimate objective of conservatism is to protect (conserve) liberal institutions.

i wish conservatives would conserve some time to read their opponents arguments instead of producing 100 pages of dishonest argumentation.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

It's saddening. Admit your economic system doesn't always work, or you'll end up like feudalism. If you're a socialist, try to emulate in your ideas the functions of san marino and bolivia I guess, or take out the bad parts of the other socialist experiments. If you're a capitalist, try to emulate Sweden or Switzerland or take the bad parts out of other capitalist nations(like the German Empire, who's only problem was being imperialist and letting corporations rule their colonies).

>Switzerland
>Socialist

Bruh

I said it's an example of how to do capitalism right. The German Empire was to, if you remove the fact Wilhelm pulled a plothole and let companies do genocides in colonies.

[-Ra-]

The ultimate objective of conservatism is to protect (conserve) liberal institutions.

i wish conservatives would conserve some time to read their opponents arguments instead of producing 100 pages of dishonest argumentation.

Your posts aren't worthy of being read if they do not post an argument, and forgive me for not humouring dictator apologetica.

[Marsane]

Your posts aren't worthy of being read if they do not post an argument, and forgive me for not humouring dictator apologetica.

you did the thing i just said lol. there's only one guy in the last 30+ pages who defended the USSR and pretty much every leftist went on him

[Salus Maior]

A liberal-conservative, so I lie on that spectrum.

sounds like an oxymoron, but ok

Conservatives in the American sense are liberal. Everything in America is built off of a basis of liberalism.

[Rijk van Afrika]

Because of rampant ethnic tensions, not its economic system.

The >1000% hyperinflation didn't help either.

this

So are you advocating for ethnostates

I'm not a Nazi so no. I'm just showing you why your argument doesn't work.

nothing you have said has suggested several capitalist ethnostates would not be better than yugoslavia

[Duvniask]

The >1000% hyperinflation didn't help either.

this

Don't mistake this for me agreeing with the nonsense you've been spouting in this thread.

[Odreria]

i wish conservatives would conserve some time to read their opponents arguments instead of producing 100 pages of dishonest argumentation.

Your posts aren't worthy of being read if they do not post an argument, and forgive me for not humouring dictator apologetica.

Sincerely, the author of “bolivia poor lol” and “Pinochet good”

[-Ra-]

sounds like an oxymoron, but ok

Conservatives in the American sense are liberal. Everything in America is built off of a basis of liberalism.

Everything in European democracy is based off liberalism. All democracies are, for that matter.

Your posts aren't worthy of being read if they do not post an argument, and forgive me for not humouring dictator apologetica.

you did the thing i just said lol. there's only one guy in the last 30+ pages who defended the USSR and pretty much every leftist went on him

There was a leftie here defending Evo Morales and his corrupt, authoritarian regime. Sure he isn't as bad as the USSR, but some people seem to be living in a fantasy where Bolivia is somehow more prosperous than Chile and Argentina because it experienced a touch more growth in such and such quarter, completely ignoring that the quality of life in Argentina is much better than that of Bolivia. We all know that socialists side with authoritarians. This thread just makes it clear.

[Rijk van Afrika]

this

Don't mistake this for me agreeing with the nonsense you've been spouting in this thread.

Sorry for having a well-informed and reasonable opinion

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

Don't mistake this for me agreeing with the nonsense you've been spouting in this thread.

Sorry for having a well-informed and reasonable opinion

u literally equated nelson mandela with mao and stalin

[-Ra-]

Your posts aren't worthy of being read if they do not post an argument, and forgive me for not humouring dictator apologetica.

Sincerely, the author of “bolivia poor lol” and “Pinochet good”

I challenge you to find a single thread where I praised Pinochet and his regime. Unlike you, I have disdain for dictatorships whether or not we align in terms of economic policy. You cannot make an argument without constructing a strawman, going to show how pathetic your ideology is anyway.

[Marsane]

Your posts aren't worthy of being read if they do not post an argument, and forgive me for not humouring dictator apologetica.

Sincerely, the author of “bolivia poor lol” and “Pinochet good”

also the mention of 'not humoring dictator apologia' with a henry kissinger pfp is pretty absurd

[Rijk van Afrika]

Sorry for having a well-informed and reasonable opinion

u literally equated nelson mandela with mao and stalin

I'm sorry, I didn't realize there was a tier system for murderous savages

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

the list of people in this thread who need to give me the drugs they're on ever grows

[Washington Resistance Army]

u literally equated nelson mandela with mao and stalin

I'm sorry, I didn't realize there was a tier system for murderous savages

Literally everyone recognizes there is lol. It's why we don't equate a one off murderer with Reinhard Heydrich.

[Rijk van Afrika]

I'm sorry, I didn't realize there was a tier system for murderous savages

Literally everyone recognizes there is lol. It's why we don't equate a one off murderer with Reinhard Heydrich.

Who was a member of a self-described socialist regime

[Washington Resistance Army]

Literally everyone recognizes there is lol. It's why we don't equate a one off murderer with Reinhard Heydrich.

Who was a member of a self-described socialist regime

Good thing we already demolished that talking point, huh?

[Picairn]

the list of people in this thread who need to give me the drugs they're on ever grows

We need to bleach the last several pages.