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Postby Langenia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:23 am

I am afraid that there will not be a peaceful transfer of power. If there is no peaceful power transfer, the military will have to get involved, and that could be something very dangerous. We could even become a pariah, lose our superpower status, lose our outlook to the world as the torch of democracy, and our economy collapses due to our pariah status.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:24 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.wlns.com/top-stories/attorney-general-dana-nessel-to-hold-joint-announcement-today/

They not only planned to kidnap her but hold a kangaroo court session in Wisconsin and then kill her. This gets more and more terrifying.

it was apparently a massive plot.

It was a militia, but this sounds like a state party. So, their goal was kidnap her, hold a Kangaroo court, and kill her? Then what? The US would invade Michigan and install military rule even if all went smooth.


No they would not have invaded Michigan and installed military rule.

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Postby FNU » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:24 am

San Lumen wrote:Im surprised national news outlets haven't picked up this story yet.

As an Ohioan who travels there constantly, the nation has seen this coming. Every interstate break station had a guy with a petition board filled to the brim to get rid of her.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:26 am

FNU wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Im surprised national news outlets haven't picked up this story yet.

As an Ohioan who travels there constantly, the nation has seen this coming. Every interstate break station had a guy with a petition board filled to the brim to get rid of her.

a petition to hold a recall election is one thing this is another matter entirely.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:27 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.wlns.com/top-stories/attorney-general-dana-nessel-to-hold-joint-announcement-today/

They not only planned to kidnap her but hold a kangaroo court session in Wisconsin and then kill her. This gets more and more terrifying.

it was apparently a massive plot.

6 isn't massive, but in general, jeez, wtf, Whiticer may be a buffoon, but that is what the ballot box is for.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:27 am

San Lumen wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:It was a militia, but this sounds like a state party. So, their goal was kidnap her, hold a Kangaroo court, and kill her? Then what? The US would invade Michigan and install military rule even if all went smooth.


No they would not have invaded Michigan and installed military rule.

You think the US would tolerate a coup on one of it's governors? No. The state would be occupied by the end of the week, and like in the South after the civil war a temporary military administration would be installed, until elections could be held or they gave power to the closest person in the succession line.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:28 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.wlns.com/top-stories/attorney-general-dana-nessel-to-hold-joint-announcement-today/

They not only planned to kidnap her but hold a kangaroo court session in Wisconsin and then kill her. This gets more and more terrifying.

it was apparently a massive plot.

6 isn't massive, but in general, jeez, wtf, Whitman may be a buffoon, but that is what the ballot box is for.

Agreed. I don't like her but would never wish something like this on anyone.

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Postby Elevanos » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:29 am

Langenia wrote:I am afraid that there will not be a peaceful transfer of power. If there is no peaceful power transfer, the military will have to get involved, and that could be something very dangerous. We could even become a pariah, lose our superpower status, lose our outlook to the world as the torch of democracy, and our economy collapses due to our pariah status.

I was going to say "It was thwarted, stop worrying.", then remembered that there are definitely still accomplices on the run.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:29 am

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The original quote is "My centre is giving way, my right is retreating, situation excellent, I am attacking"; or rather, in the original French "Mon centre cède, ma droite recule, situation excellente, j'attaque".

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:30 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.wlns.com/top-stories/attorney-general-dana-nessel-to-hold-joint-announcement-today/

They not only planned to kidnap her but hold a kangaroo court session in Wisconsin and then kill her. This gets more and more terrifying.

it was apparently a massive plot.

It was a militia, but this sounds like a state party. So, their goal was kidnap her, hold a Kangaroo court, and kill her? Then what? The US would invade Michigan and install military rule even if all went smooth.

Then, I'm guessing, they would expect to see other militias following their example and a far-right revolution sweeping the country. They would expect Trump to order the military to support them in crushing any resistance. They would expect to be hailed forever as heroes of America.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:31 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
No they would not have invaded Michigan and installed military rule.

You think the US would tolerate a coup on one of it's governors? No. The state would be occupied by the end of the week, and like in the South after the civil war a temporary military administration would be installed, until elections could be held or they gave power to the closest person in the succession line.


No I don;'t think that would have happened. The Lt Governor would become governor. Their wouldn't be military occupation of Lansing.

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Postby Andsed » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:43 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
No they would not have invaded Michigan and installed military rule.

You think the US would tolerate a coup on one of it's governors? No. The state would be occupied by the end of the week, and like in the South after the civil war a temporary military administration would be installed, until elections could be held or they gave power to the closest person in the succession line.

I mean that would probably depend on the on if they actually took control of the state. This seems like more to an assassination than any kind of coup.
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:45 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.wlns.com/top-stories/attorney-general-dana-nessel-to-hold-joint-announcement-today/

They not only planned to kidnap her but hold a kangaroo court session in Wisconsin and then kill her. This gets more and more terrifying.

it was apparently a massive plot.

6 isn't massive, but in general, jeez, wtf, Whiticer may be a buffoon, but that is what the ballot box is for.


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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:33 am

Andsed wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:You think the US would tolerate a coup on one of it's governors? No. The state would be occupied by the end of the week, and like in the South after the civil war a temporary military administration would be installed, until elections could be held or they gave power to the closest person in the succession line.

I mean that would probably depend on the on if they actually took control of the state. This seems like more to an assassination than any kind of coup.


I think that’s a fair assessment

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Postby Ellbonnia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:41 am

Can you imagine that there was a point in time not so long ago where news like this would actually horrify us, but nowadays it's to be expected in this political climate?

I mean, I am appalled, but I'm not surprised in the slightest that things are escalating to this point.

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Postby Odinburgh » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:41 am

I am just disgusted what far right wing radicals have come to and what they will do in the name of Trump.

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Postby Langenia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:42 am

Odinburgh wrote:I am just disgusted what far right wing radicals have come to and what they will do in the name of Trump.


Exactly!
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:46 am

Odinburgh wrote:I am just disgusted what far right wing radicals have come to and what they will do in the name of Trump.

When you have a president who refuses to condemn white supremacy and incites violence it’s not surprising. I wouldn’t be shocked to see more things like this in the future and it distresses me to say that.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:48 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/feds-thwart-militia-plot-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer/5922301002/

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... n-governor

The FBI says it thwarted what it described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, and federal prosecutors are expected to discuss the alleged conspiracy later Thursday.

The alleged plot involved reaching out to members of a Michigan militia, according to a federal affidavit filed Thursday. Not only did they plan to kidnap her but they also planned to hold a kangaroo court session and then kill her.

It's terrifying that something like this was in planning stages. What has America come too? People say militias and white supremacists aren't a threat well here is your proof. I wonder if their are other plots like this out there being investigated.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:50 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
No they would not have invaded Michigan and installed military rule.

You think the US would tolerate a coup on one of it's governors? No. The state would be occupied by the end of the week, and like in the South after the civil war a temporary military administration would be installed, until elections could be held or they gave power to the closest person in the succession line.


An assassination is hardly a coup.
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What the fuck like
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:53 am

Ellbonnia wrote:Can you imagine that there was a point in time not so long ago where news like this would actually horrify us, but nowadays it's to be expected in this political climate?


This was absolutely not expected.
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Postby Ellbonnia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:54 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:What the fuck like


That's honestly a great way to sum up the year in one sentence

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:56 am

San Lumen wrote:
Odinburgh wrote:I am just disgusted what far right wing radicals have come to and what they will do in the name of Trump.

When you have a president who refuses to condemn white supremacy and incites violence it’s not surprising. I wouldn’t be shocked to see more things like this in the future and it distresses me to say that.


This is literally a lie San Lumen. He's condemned White supremacists repeatedly and without weasel words.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:56 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
San Lumen wrote:When you have a president who refuses to condemn white supremacy and incites violence it’s not surprising. I wouldn’t be shocked to see more things like this in the future and it distresses me to say that.


This is literally a lie San Lumen. He's condemned White supremacists repeatedly and without weasel words.

No he did not.

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