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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:24 pm

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This group is clearly crazy. Who the actual hell plans to kidnap a governor for closing the garden section?

Crazy people whom the president has refused to condemn


He's been pretty vocal in his condemnation of anarchists.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:26 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Crazy people whom the president has refused to condemn


He's been pretty vocal in his condemnation of anarchists.


"Gottem!!!!!"

Do you have anything of value to actually contribute to the discussion or do you just want to post what you think are 'clever' one-liners?
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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:28 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Telconi wrote:
He's been pretty vocal in his condemnation of anarchists.


"Gottem!!!!!"

Do you have anything of value to actually contribute to the discussion or do you just want to post what you think are 'clever' one-liners?


Monumental irony good sir, shame it's not the funny kind.
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Postby Drongonia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:31 pm

It's funny actually, OP mentions white supremacy in the post, but with quotes like:
The Price of freedom is eternal vigilance... And indifference to this notion is the means by which the people can and will secure their own oppression. Wake the f--- up.

they sound like radical libertarians not gonna lie.

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Postby Aeritai » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:37 pm

What is going on with this year's election? We have protest and now armed militas trying to kill a governor? Were things like this when Obama ran against Romney during their election years?
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Aeritai wrote:What is going on with this year's election? We have protest and now armed militas trying to kill a governor? Were things like this when Obama ran against Romney during their election years?


Not even close.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:41 pm

Aeritai wrote:What is going on with this year's election? We have protest and now armed militas trying to kill a governor? Were things like this when Obama ran against Romney during their election years?


This level of hate has been building up for decades. Doesn't help that for the first time we have a president who is actively encouraging it.
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Postby Zeloria » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:41 pm

Drongonia wrote:It's funny actually, OP mentions white supremacy in the post, but with quotes like:
The Price of freedom is eternal vigilance... And indifference to this notion is the means by which the people can and will secure their own oppression. Wake the f--- up.

they sound like radical libertarians not gonna lie.


killing elected officials doesn't sound very libertarian
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:41 pm

Aeritai wrote:What is going on with this year's election? We have protest and now armed militas trying to kill a governor? Were things like this when Obama ran against Romney during their election years?

Nope, and anyone who thinks we're going to have a return to normalcy in the coming years after this election are blindly optimistic.

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Postby Dakran » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:45 pm

How disgusting. What are the possible consequences of their actions for this, life in prison?
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:45 pm

Drongonia wrote:It's funny actually, OP mentions white supremacy in the post, but with quotes like:
The Price of freedom is eternal vigilance... And indifference to this notion is the means by which the people can and will secure their own oppression. Wake the f--- up.

they sound like radical libertarians not gonna lie.

Probably what they are.
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:46 pm

Zeloria wrote:
Drongonia wrote:It's funny actually, OP mentions white supremacy in the post, but with quotes like:

they sound like radical libertarians not gonna lie.


killing elected officials doesn't sound very libertarian

The excuse I'd bet they'd use is their right to bear arms against what they consider a tyrannical government.

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:46 pm

Dakran wrote:How disgusting. What are the possible consequences of their actions for this, life in prison?


Is there a Michigander statute for treason?
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Postby Nerovia » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:48 pm

This is one of the most sickening stuff I have ever read. Thank God the governor is okay and the six guys who made the plot were caught and are being prosecuted. This is a threat to democracy that needs to be seriously addressed. Absolutely no excuses for this type of behavior.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:50 pm

Dakran wrote:How disgusting. What are the possible consequences of their actions for this, life in prison?

I don’t know the exact sentence but it’s likely years in prison.

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Postby Dangine » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:57 pm

So much for "Law and Order"
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:58 pm

This is why you keep your plots secret. OpSec yo.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:01 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Crazy people whom the president has refused to condemn


He's been pretty vocal in his condemnation of anarchists.


Too bad his response to white supremacy was "there were fine people on both sides," and "Stand back and stand by."

You know, the guys who killed a shit ton more Americans than anarchists did.
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Postby Labbos » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:01 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Odinburgh wrote:I am just disgusted what far right wing radicals have come to and what they will do in the name of Trump.

When you have a president who refuses to condemn white supremacy and incites violence it’s not surprising. I wouldn’t be shocked to see more things like this in the future and it distresses me to say that.


Yes, I wish he'd say something statesman-like, such as "In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy.". Oh wait, he did that last year.

But maybe his position has changed. After all, when Biden asked him yet again to condemn white supremacy in the debate, he said "sure". Hmm, but what about since then? How about "I’ve said it many times. Let me be clear again. I condemn the KKK. I condemn all white supremacists."

I don't see evidence that this plot was by white supremacists, the far right or in the name of Trump, though any of that could be true. But I wager Trump will disavow the group soon regardless.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:01 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Zeloria wrote:
killing elected officials doesn't sound very libertarian

The excuse I'd bet they'd use is their right to bear arms against what they consider a tyrannical government.


I assume ill see them at the next protest against police brutality since they're against big government abuse, right?

Or will the hide in the shadows?
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Postby Qihein » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:02 pm

Why 2020 got to fuck us over like this?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:02 pm

Labbos wrote:
San Lumen wrote:When you have a president who refuses to condemn white supremacy and incites violence it’s not surprising. I wouldn’t be shocked to see more things like this in the future and it distresses me to say that.


Yes, I wish he'd say something statesman-like, such as "In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy.". Oh wait, he did that last year.

But maybe his position has changed. After all, when Biden asked him yet again to condemn white supremacy in the debate, he said "sure". Hmm, but what about since then? How about "I’ve said it many times. Let me be clear again. I condemn the KKK. I condemn all white supremacists."

I don't see evidence that this plot was by white supremacists, the far right or in the name of Trump, though any of that could be true. But I wager Trump will disavow the group soon regardless.


I mean he told the proud boys to stand by so...

If you can't say "white supremacy is evil" on live TV at a debate, i think it's pretty sus.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:07 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Telconi wrote:
He's been pretty vocal in his condemnation of anarchists.


Too bad his response to white supremacy was "there were fine people on both sides," and "Stand back and stand by."

You know, the guys who killed a shit ton more Americans than anarchists did.


I mean, which party alienates it's objectionable followers?
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Postby Bienenhalde » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:16 pm

Those terrorists must be prosecuted and punished with utmost severity! We shouldn't be too soft on these criminals.

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:18 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:This is why you keep your plots secret. OpSec yo.


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