Greece's Golden Dawn Falls to Leaden Dusk

[Genivaria]

A band of criminals gets jailed and faces the full force of the LAW.

Isn't that one of the things the extreme right-wing is supposed to be cheering for?

Golden Dawn isn't just a right-wing party. They are full blown neo-nazis. So they dislike the rule of law in the way we understand it. They desire an autocracy, where the ruler makes the laws.

Precisely, the thing about actual Fascism (as well as totalitarianism in general) is that while they may harp about the Rule Of Law all day the only laws they really respect are the ones that keep them in power.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Golden Dawn isn't just a right-wing party. They are full blown neo-nazis. So they dislike the rule of law in the way we understand it. They desire an autocracy, where the ruler makes the laws.

Precisely, the thing about actual Fascism (as well as totalitarianism in general) is that while they may harp about the Rule Of Law all day the only laws they really respect are the ones that keep them in power.

Fascist law is the law of "might makes right". Freedom in any case exists because we denounce "might makes right".

[Albionist Great Britain]

I’ve no particular love for Golden Dawn, so I have no objections to this ruling. However, Greece must resolve the issues regarding the Oriental migrants sent westward by the turmoil in the east, and the North African migrants caused by Libyan instability. Else this will mean nothing as Greek fascism won’t be truly extinguished until more rational parties can sway their old supporters with actual resolutions.

So it's actually the fault of the brown people for racism existing? And what the hell oriental migrants are you talking about? Besides the fact that oriental is an archaic term for east Asians, the people going to Greece aren't even east Asian. They're Middle Eastern.

No, not at all. The xenophobia and racism that fuelled Golden Dawn has always been there, though largely latent until relatively recently with the influx of migrants caused by Euro-American invasions and civil conflict in the MENA region, when it became more open. By “resolving issues” I meant seeing to the restablisation of these peoples countries, the invitation of work and sufficient living standards as to ease the human burden of caring for the migrants currently in Greece by allowing them to return home to better, safe conditions. That can’t be achieved with their countries in turmoil, so Europe (Greece included) needs to step in. With fewer migrants in camps, the racism won’t be as active I think and voters will see these more moderate and rational parties actually resolving issues rather than just waving flags and marching down streets and spouting rhetoric that’s ultimately helping no one.

Admittedly I don’t know why I referred to the MENA migrants as oriental, maybe I was being poetic? Eh, either way, probably shouldn’t have used that term specifically.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Nazis don't deserve a voice. Good on Greece.

[Newark Aristocracy]

There shall be no platform for fascism.
Good on Greece.

Frick you and your views.are for idiots.

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I'm the idiot here.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

There shall be no platform for fascism.
Good on Greece.

Frick you and your views.are for idiots.

Found the fash.

[Newark Aristocracy]

Frick you and your views.are for idiots.

Found the fash.

Did I offend you little snowflake?
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Rhetorical question that was not ment to flame.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Found the fash.

Did I offend you little snowflake?

No, but you do sound fascist since you called him an idiot. If you're not a fascist and a fellow conservative instead, forgive me. If that is the case, I thought you said him thinking fascism should be banned is bad instead of you thinking socialism is bad.

[Newark Aristocracy]

Did I offend you little snowflake?

No, but you do sound fascist since you called him an idiot. If you're not a fascist and a fellow conservative instead, forgive me. If that is the case, I thought you said him thinking fascism should be banned is bad instead of you thinking socialism is bad.

I'm not saying his views are entirely idiotic,but I feel that Fascism that ISNT neo nazism needs a platform.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

No, but you do sound fascist since you called him an idiot. If you're not a fascist and a fellow conservative instead, forgive me. If that is the case, I thought you said him thinking fascism should be banned is bad instead of you thinking socialism is bad.

I'm not saying his views are entirely idiotic,but I feel that Fascism that ISNT neo nazism needs a platform.

Even Mussolini style fascism is bad, and there's types of fascism that allow some groups the Nazis hate to exist while wanting to kill the rest.

[Kowani]

No, but you do sound fascist since you called him an idiot. If you're not a fascist and a fellow conservative instead, forgive me. If that is the case, I thought you said him thinking fascism should be banned is bad instead of you thinking socialism is bad.

I'm not saying his views are entirely idiotic,but I feel that Fascism that ISNT neo nazism needs a platform.

No. No it does not.

[Newark Aristocracy]

I'm not saying his views are entirely idiotic,but I feel that Fascism that ISNT neo nazism needs a platform.

No. No it does not.

Fascism deserves a platfrom,and should be allowed. I'm not intending to start a flame war,but its getting close to one.

[Genivaria]

I'm not saying his views are entirely idiotic,but I feel that Fascism that ISNT neo nazism needs a platform.

No. No it does not.

It's actually really difficult to find a tolerable example of Fascism in rea life, you have to go to fiction to find ones that aren't just corrupt dictatorships.

[Genivaria]

No. No it does not.

Fascism deserves a platfrom,and should be allowed. I'm not intending to start a flame war,but its getting close to one.

You are the only one here actively flaming people so clearly you are.

[Newark Aristocracy]

No. No it does not.

It's actually really difficult to find a tolerable example of Fascism in rea life, you have to go to fiction to find ones that aren't just corrupt dictatorships.

I get that.

[Ifreann]

No. No it does not.

Fascism deserves a platfrom,and should be allowed. I'm not intending to start a flame war,but its getting close to one.

Fascists not having a platform is good and serves to secure the freedom of all those that the fascists would oppress.

[Kowani]

No. No it does not.

Fascism deserves a platfrom,and should be allowed. I'm not intending to start a flame war,but its getting close to one.

Fascism not having a platform protects the victims of fascists.
Fascism having a platform protects fascists.

[Newark Aristocracy]

Fascism deserves a platfrom,and should be allowed. I'm not intending to start a flame war,but its getting close to one.

Fascism not having a platform protects the victims of fascists.
Fascism having a platform protects fascists.

We need to defend freedom of speech,dammit!

[West Leas Oros 2]

Fascism not having a platform protects the victims of fascists.
Fascism having a platform protects fascists.

We need to defend freedom of speech,dammit!

They wouldn't do the same if it were up to them...

[Kowani]

Fascism not having a platform protects the victims of fascists.
Fascism having a platform protects fascists.

We need to defend freedom of speech,dammit!

Fascists use freedom of speech to get to a position where they can then destroy that freedom of speech. They are very much opposed to it.

[Newark Aristocracy]

We need to defend freedom of speech,dammit!

Fascists use freedom of speech to get to a position where they can then destroy that freedom of speech. They are very much opposed to it.

BLM is pretty similar dammit.
Does that mean,IS BLM FASCIST?

[The Emerald Legion]

We need to defend freedom of speech,dammit!

They wouldn't do the same if it were up to them...

Yes, but they're fascists. Are you going to take your cues from Fascists?

[Giovenith]

There shall be no platform for fascism.
Good on Greece.

Frick you and your views.are for idiots.

^
I'm the idiot here.

Found the fash.

Did I offend you little snowflake?
^
Rhetorical question that was not ment to flame.

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Saying "that was wrong I didn't mean it" afterwards is not an excuse. Read the rules before you decide to post.

[West Leas Oros 2]

They wouldn't do the same if it were up to them...

Yes, but they're fascists. Are you going to take your cues from Fascists?

You of all people should know the dangers of giving freedom to those who would take it from you.

[Kowani]

Fascists use freedom of speech to get to a position where they can then destroy that freedom of speech. They are very much opposed to it.

BLM is pretty similar dammit.
Does that mean,IS BLM FASCIST?

No. Fascism has very specific tenants, and opposition to freedom of speech is just one of those things.