Most controversial person in history

[The Black Forrest]

The first guy to pick up a rock and smacked somebody else.

[Mathuvan Union]

The first guy to pick up a rock and smacked somebody else.

no that was the greatest person to exist.

[The Archregimancy]

The first guy to pick up a rock and smacked somebody else.

Here you go....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldowan

Homo erectus, though, at best; possibly even a late Australopithecene. So I'm not sure that counts if 'person' means Homo sapiens.

But that's worked tools. There's every reason to believe using unworked stone tools is an inherent trait in hominids given that it's also been observed in some of the modern great apes.

[Mathuvan Union]

The first guy to pick up a rock and smacked somebody else.

Here you go....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldowan

Homo erectus, though; so I'm not sure that counts if 'person' means Homo sapiens.

But that's worked tools. There's every reason to believe using unworked stone tools is an inherent trait in hominids given that it's also been observed in some of the modern great apes.

any species that is phylum (i think that's what it's called) Homo is human.

[Farnhamia]

Here you go....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldowan

Homo erectus, though; so I'm not sure that counts if 'person' means Homo sapiens.

But that's worked tools. There's every reason to believe using unworked stone tools is an inherent trait in hominids given that it's also been observed in some of the modern great apes.

any species that is phylum (i think that's what it's called) Homo is human.

Genus Homo. Our phylum is Chordata, meaning we're chordates. "A chordate (/ˈkɔːrdeɪt/) is an animal of the phylum Chordata. During some period of their life cycle, chordates possess a notochord, a dorsal nerve cord, pharyngeal slits, and a post-anal tail: these four anatomical features define this phylum. Chordates are also bilaterally symmetric, and have a coelom, metameric segmentation, and circulatory system." This will be on the test.

[Mathuvan Union]

any species that is phylum (i think that's what it's called) Homo is human.

Genus Homo. Our phylum is Chordata, meaning we're chordates. "A chordate (/ˈkɔːrdeɪt/) is an animal of the phylum Chordata. During some period of their life cycle, chordates possess a notochord, a dorsal nerve cord, pharyngeal slits, and a post-anal tail: these four anatomical features define this phylum. Chordates are also bilaterally symmetric, and have a coelom, metameric segmentation, and circulatory system." This will be on the test.

the mods are so much smarter than me...
you said I while back on a loom towards me there would be a test about the site rules. I prepared for that.

[The Black Forrest]

Genus Homo. Our phylum is Chordata, meaning we're chordates. "A chordate (/ˈkɔːrdeɪt/) is an animal of the phylum Chordata. During some period of their life cycle, chordates possess a notochord, a dorsal nerve cord, pharyngeal slits, and a post-anal tail: these four anatomical features define this phylum. Chordates are also bilaterally symmetric, and have a coelom, metameric segmentation, and circulatory system." This will be on the test.

the mods are so much smarter than me...
you said I while back on a loom towards me there would be a test about the site rules. I prepared for that.

More then you know. Arch is a published archeologist.

Arch: Thanks for the link

[Mathuvan Union]

the mods are so much smarter than me...
you said I while back on a loom towards me there would be a test about the site rules. I prepared for that.

More then you know. Arch is a published archeologist.

Arch: Thanks for the link

arch is definitely smarter than me.

[Farnhamia]

Genus Homo. Our phylum is Chordata, meaning we're chordates. "A chordate (/ˈkɔːrdeɪt/) is an animal of the phylum Chordata. During some period of their life cycle, chordates possess a notochord, a dorsal nerve cord, pharyngeal slits, and a post-anal tail: these four anatomical features define this phylum. Chordates are also bilaterally symmetric, and have a coelom, metameric segmentation, and circulatory system." This will be on the test.

the mods are so much smarter than me...
you said I while back on a loom towards me there would be a test about the site rules. I prepared for that.

As well you should have. People sometimes trash talk it, but Wikipedia is a boon to humankind. All I did was look up "Homo" and there it was, the scientific classification of humans, from kingdom and phylum on down to all the species.

[Mathuvan Union]

the mods are so much smarter than me...
you said I while back on a loom towards me there would be a test about the site rules. I prepared for that.

As well you should have. People sometimes trash talk it, but Wikipedia is a boon to humankind. All I did was look up "Homo" and there it was, the scientific classification of humans, from kingdom and phylum on down to all the species.

it came up with a ape for me.
my science teacher from 6 years ago would be beyond disappointed.

[Romanian State]

Adam and Eve. If it wasn't for them people like Pol Pot wouldn't have existed!

On a more serious note I would say Marx,Lenin or Napoleon.

[Rusozak]

No wait, I change my mind. Thomas Edison. For all his world-altering achievements and fame, Edison was an immoral scumbag.

[Ethel mermania]

the mods are so much smarter than me...
you said I while back on a loom towards me there would be a test about the site rules. I prepared for that.

More then you know. Arch is a published archeologist.

Arch: Thanks for the link

Yeah sure, ask Dr. Jones where helios is?

[Aureumterra III]

Christopher Columbus, Winston Churchill, Mohandas Gandhi, Ronald Reagan, The Prophet Muhammad, Napoleon, American Founding Fathers, Genghis Khan, Vladimir Lenin, and Babur are all controversial figures who are still debated, and there isn’t a unanimous agreement on whether or not they were good or bad

[West Leas Oros 2]

Christopher Columbus, Winston Churchill, Mohandas Gandhi, Ronald Reagan, The Prophet Muhammad, Napoleon, American Founding Fathers, Genghis Khan, Vladimir Lenin, and Babur are all controversial figures who are still debated, and there isn’t a unanimous agreement on whether or not they were good or bad

Ghandi? Is it because of his letter to Hitler?

[Mathuvan Union]

Christopher Columbus, Winston Churchill, Mohandas Gandhi, Ronald Reagan, The Prophet Muhammad, Napoleon, American Founding Fathers, Genghis Khan, Vladimir Lenin, and Babur are all controversial figures who are still debated, and there isn’t a unanimous agreement on whether or not they were good or bad

you somehow managed to forget, including and not limited to, Neville Chamberlain, Jimmy Carter, George Bush (both), Czar Nicholas II, King Louis XIV, The Directory, and Vasco De Gama

[Ethel mermania]

Bernie, he discovered Ladies.

[Greed and Death]

The first guy to pick up a rock and smacked somebody else.

Good old Uggg inventor of violence and stone tools.

[The Archregimancy]

the mods are so much smarter than me...
you said I while back on a loom towards me there would be a test about the site rules. I prepared for that.

More then you know. Arch is a published archeologist.

'Archaeologist'; we'll have none of your smutty 1960s minority US spelling here, thank you.

[Sanghyeok]

More then you know. Arch is a published archeologist.

'Archaeologist'; we'll have none of your smutty 1960s minority US spelling here, thank you.

Archælogist, make Æ great again.

[Aureumterra III]

Christopher Columbus, Winston Churchill, Mohandas Gandhi, Ronald Reagan, The Prophet Muhammad, Napoleon, American Founding Fathers, Genghis Khan, Vladimir Lenin, and Babur are all controversial figures who are still debated, and there isn’t a unanimous agreement on whether or not they were good or bad

Ghandi? Is it because of his letter to Hitler?

His extremely racist writings against black people, and his support of the Hindu caste system, are very controversial issues when discussing him

[Aureumterra III]

'Archaeologist'; we'll have none of your smutty 1960s minority US spelling here, thank you.

Archælogist, make Æ great again.

Gerðu æ frábær

[West Leas Oros 2]

Ghandi? Is it because of his letter to Hitler?

His extremely racist writings against black people, and his support of the Hindu caste system, are very controversial issues when discussing him

Huh. Nonetheless, the guy wasn't terrible.

[Aureumterra III]

His extremely racist writings against black people, and his support of the Hindu caste system, are very controversial issues when discussing him

Huh. Nonetheless, the guy wasn't terrible.

He wasn’t, that’s why I put him in the controversial people list instead of the objectively bad people list

It’s surprising how many people aren’t aware of his disdain for Africans though, some of his quotes look like they came straight from Richard Spencer

[The Blaatschapen]

Karl Marx: Inadvertently inspired an ideology that has directly resulted in the deaths of tens, possibly hundreds, of millions of people due to misguided policies, but also indirectly inspired more moderate offshoots such as social democracy and social liberalism in direct response to the excesses of the millenarian communist project, giving the world public holidays and millions of people universal healthcare and a social safety net.

Emperor Napoleon: Waged an epic war of conquest and subjugation across Europe, but also seeded a degree of republicanism and political modernity at the same time.

Christopher Columbus: "Discovered" the Americas, paving the way for the European colonization of the Western Hemisphere and the rise of the United States of America, but also enslaved the natives and introduced a whole profusion of deadly diseases to which the natives had no immunity.

Franklin D. Roosevelt: Implemented the New Deal and defeated Imperial Japan and, with the aid of its Soviet and Western European allies, Nazi Germany, consequently reviving America's battered economy to pre-Wall Street Crash levels and transforming a former Third World shithole (by today's standards) into the richest and most powerful country in the world and a beacon of freedom and democracy for millions of people around the world to this very day, but also detained Japanese-Americans in internment camps throughout the duration of the Japanese-American Pacific War (1941-45), attempted to pack the Supreme Court with yes-men, and birthed a realist, interventionist, Cold War-era foreign policy that consisted of toppling democratically-elected governments and propping up authoritarian capitalist dictatorships.

Chiang Kai-shek: Fascist, later conservative dictator who brutally crushed all opposition to his rule and lost the Chinese Civil War to the fucking CCP of all people, but subsequently paved the way for a more democratic and independent Taiwan upon his death in 1975. And he did fight against communism and Japanese imperialism.

Jesus Christ: Like Marx, he gave rise to a religion that, like Islam and communism, is directly responsible for the deaths of millions of people. Didn't mean it. Also inadvertently left behind a rich and lasting cultural legacy that persists to this very day in the form of churches, cathedrals, the Holy Bible, and other cultural artifacts both tangible and intangible. Partly responsible for Christmas (although much of it was appropriated from pagan traditions).

Numerous controversial world leaders:

Mohammed Ali Jinnah
David Ben-Gurion
Lee Kuan Yew
Sun Yat-sen
Winston Churchill
Sukarno
John F. Kennedy
Barack Obama
Donald Trump
Narendra Modi

VERDICT:

Most controversial person in history: I'm divided between Karl Marx and Jesus Christ. Communism and social democracy have had a far greater impact in modern times, but Christianity has existed for nearly two millennia.

Most controversial person alive today: Donald Trump. Not the kindest person in existence, but a means to an end.

Controversial alive today? I would not even go for Trump. George Bush jr. would be a better option.

But of course, Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev is still alive.