Judge Amy Barret Confirmed As Supreme Court Justice

[Tarsonis]

Why are we still acting like the court is a single issue body?

Because we can! This ... is ... N! S! G!

crap was i supposed to be standing next to the bottomless pit? I'm still trying to get this blocking down.

[Farnhamia]

Because we can! This ... is ... N! S! G!

crap was i supposed to be standing next to the bottomless pit? I'm still trying to get this blocking down.

We went over this in rehearsal, didn't we? *shouts in an exasperated tone* Okay, people, let's try it again!

[Parxland]

crap was i supposed to be standing next to the bottomless pit? I'm still trying to get this blocking down.

We went over this in rehearsal, didn't we? *shouts in an exasperated tone* Okay, people, let's try it again!

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

The really funny thing about you trying to say this is literally everything I said in that post was legal was listed on GunBroker at the time I posted it lol. Yes, you can own RPG's as Title 2 items. You don't know everything and really need to stop making a fool of yourself by assuming you do.

Shouldn’t you be following the originalist view? Only muskets were around when the Const was written.

The originalist view would be that there’s no pure individual right to firearms outside of their being kept for use in a well regulated militia unit, the more laissez faire attitude towards the right to individual firearm ownership is a seemingly relatively recent phenomenon that wasn’t ruled in favor of by SCOTUS until a little over a decade ago.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Shouldn’t you be following the originalist view? Only muskets were around when the Const was written.

The originalist view would be that there’s no pure individual right to firearms outside of their being kept for use in a well regulated militia unit, the more laissez faire attitude towards the right to individual firearm ownership is a seemingly relatively recent phenomenon that wasn’t ruled in favor of by SCOTUS until a little over a decade ago.

This clashes immensely with both early judicial history (the individual right to bear arms is explicitly mentioned in Dred Scott as a reason blacks can’t be citizens) and pretty much everything the founders wrote and the people at the time thought as shown through state level constitutions and such things.

[Plzen]

Congratulations to the newest Justice on the bench.

I agree that the nomination was a sham (because I think the Senate and the Presidency are both shams), but Novus America has a point in that it wasn't an illegal sham. I think some of the panic we're seeing is a bit unnecessary. If it just ends up being a 5-4 moderate conservative bench, just gritting our teeth and respecting it is probably better than rolling the dice on a constitutional crisis, and if our worst fears are realised and the new court really does try to turn the clock back 50 years, well, Biden's mind can be changed on court packing...

A 5-4 conservative court isn't the end of American democracy. The thing I find far more concerning, and the thing I think is the actual, fundamental problem, is how American electoral procedures work.

There seems to be a lot of heat and anxiety about gun control regulation, but honestly, I could not care less. I'm not American, and my concern is more towards the norms the US will set in matters of civil rights or property law. Gun control... I don't care even if the new judge is a machinegun-toting Second Amendment fanatic. I'm not interested in that issue.

[Novus America]

Shouldn’t you be following the originalist view? Only muskets were around when the Const was written.

The originalist view would be that there’s no pure individual right to firearms outside of their being kept for use in a well regulated militia unit, the more laissez faire attitude towards the right to individual firearm ownership is a seemingly relatively recent phenomenon that wasn’t ruled in favor of by SCOTUS until a little over a decade ago.

Given the militia was ALL able bodied, free white men from ages 18-45 (actually individual gun ownership was MANDATORY) this is not true. The militia members owned and kept their own weapons, which they could and did use for other uses like home defense and hunting.

Also the militia now includes ALL able bodied men 17-45 (obviously it includes all races now) plus women who are on the national guard. Perhaps it is time to make it include all able bodied women too. Although nobody now is saying only men should be able to own guns, even though they are the only ones required to be in the militia.

If you want to get really originalist we should mandate every able bodied male own a AR-16 or M-14.

When the militia is pretty much everyone, then obviously it is effectively an individual right. Nothing says the arms are only for militia use, even it was expected the would be available for that.

Although this is probably more for the gun control thread. Where we already discussed this many times.

[Lower Nubia]

Can’t wait for them to use the SCOTUS to try and repeal preexisting conditions from the ACA Next month and not even remotely touch Roe V Wade, but dumb Catholic’s keep voting them in to do exactly that.

[Tarsonis]

Can’t wait for them to use the SCOTUS to try and repeal preexisting conditions from the ACA Next month and not even remotely touch Roe V Wade, but dumb Catholic’s keep voting them in to do exactly that.

How would they even challenge Pre existing conditions on a constitutional basis? Commerce Clause makes that a snap.

[Lower Nubia]

Can’t wait for them to use the SCOTUS to try and repeal preexisting conditions from the ACA Next month and not even remotely touch Roe V Wade, but dumb Catholic’s keep voting them in to do exactly that.

How would they even challenge Pre existing conditions on a constitutional basis? Commerce Clause makes that a snap.

This is the US. They could shit in their hands and clap and make it constitutional.

Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Federation_of_Independent_Business_v._Sebelius

“The Supreme Court has agreed to hear the case to consider not only if the elimination of the individual mandate makes the ACA unconstitutional, but factors related to the severability of the individual mandate from other provisions in the PPACA, as well as whether California has standing.”

[Aclion]

Can’t wait for them to use the SCOTUS to try and repeal preexisting conditions from the ACA Next month and not even remotely touch Roe V Wade, but dumb Catholic’s keep voting them in to do exactly that.

How would they even challenge Pre existing conditions on a constitutional basis? Commerce Clause makes that a snap.

Commerce Clause only applies to interstate commerce

[Vassenor]

Nice to see the GOP confirm that they consider stripping Americans of their civil rights is more important than helping then survive the worst pandemic in recent memory.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

How would they even challenge Pre existing conditions on a constitutional basis? Commerce Clause makes that a snap.

Commerce Clause only applies to interstate commerce

The Supreme Court ruled it constitutional.

[Kowani]

Commerce Clause only applies to interstate commerce

The Supreme Court ruled it constitutional.

With the Mandate.
Trump got rid of that.
Now, ooops.

[Parxland]

Nice to see the GOP confirm that they consider stripping Americans of their civil rights is more important than helping then survive the worst pandemic in recent memory.

Great googly moogly, are you just a mouthpiece for the US democratic party? Turn down the fucking propaganda, please.

[New haven america]

Nice to see the GOP confirm that they consider stripping Americans of their civil rights is more important than helping then survive the worst pandemic in recent memory.

Great googly moogly, are you just a mouthpiece for the US democratic party? Turn down the fucking propaganda, please.

Then why has the GOP been conveniently sitting on a stimulus bill for the past 4 or so months?

[Vassenor]

Nice to see the GOP confirm that they consider stripping Americans of their civil rights is more important than helping then survive the worst pandemic in recent memory.

Great googly moogly, are you just a mouthpiece for the US democratic party? Turn down the fucking propaganda, please.

So why else was the GOP blocking COVID stimulus bills so they could force this through?

[Greed and Death]

Nice to see the GOP confirm that they consider stripping Americans of their civil rights is more important than helping then survive the worst pandemic in recent memory.

Next time you favor restricting my gun rights or forcing me to buy insurance consider the consequences.

Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe.

[Grinning Dragon]

Great googly moogly, are you just a mouthpiece for the US democratic party? Turn down the fucking propaganda, please.

Then why has the GOP been conveniently sitting on a stimulus bill for the past 4 or so months?

It's schumer that keeps holding it up.

[Greed and Death]

She has already taken part in a ruling.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/26/politics ... index.html

Mail in ballots from urban areas will not be counted in Wisconsin.

This will most likely shift Wisconsin to solid red.

[Tinhampton]

She has already taken part in a ruling.

The Wisconsin ruling was decided shortly before the Senate confirmation vote.

If Farn's still reading, Amy Coney Barrett is not - to my awareness - actually called "Amy Barret."

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Nice to see the GOP confirm that they consider stripping Americans of their civil rights is more important than helping then survive the worst pandemic in recent memory.

Next time you favor restricting my gun rights or forcing me to buy insurance consider the consequences.

Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe.

Pot, meet kettle. You don’t have much of a leg to stand on.

She has already taken part in a ruling.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/26/politics ... index.html

Mail in ballots from urban areas will not be counted in Wisconsin.

This will most likely shift Wisconsin to solid red.

Literally says nothing about “mail in ballots from urban areas will not be counted”.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Happy birthday Hillary!

[Greed and Death]

Next time you favor restricting my gun rights or forcing me to buy insurance consider the consequences.

Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe.

Pot, meet kettle. You don’t have much of a leg to stand on.

She has already taken part in a ruling.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/26/politics ... index.html

Mail in ballots from urban areas will not be counted in Wisconsin.

This will most likely shift Wisconsin to solid red.

Literally says nothing about “mail in ballots from urban areas will not be counted”.

The left has always been the aggressor in this.


Are you accusing me of yellow journalism?

[Plzen]

Literally says nothing about “mail in ballots from urban areas will not be counted”.

Yes... G&D's summary of the article is unnecessarily inflammatory.

That being said, anything that disadvantages mail-in votes will probably disadvantage Blue, so the effect of the decision probably will be to shift the state further Red. On one hand, I'm quite sympathetic to the reasoning behind decision (not changing election rules so close to an election) and a deadline is a deadline, but on the other hand, if the current rules stand for the next elections, the possibility of voter suppression via "mysterious" and "unpredictable" delays in the mail service can't be discounted.