Judge Amy Barret Confirmed As Supreme Court Justice

[The Black Forrest]

True. He just made it worse in the US.



I am not sure what you are trying to say here.

That the lockdowns supported largely by Democrats actually crashed the economy, which would be true, shutting down businesses is bad for the economy. But what does that have to do with Amy Barret?

But anyways this is specifically about the confirmation. We have two other threads for the generic Trump bad stuff.

Not much actually. You know we take minor tangents here in NSG. Especially when we get new “oh those liberals!” types.....

[Novus America]

Trump took out the travels to china where the virus started

Only Chinese nationals were affected by that. People coming back were not quarantined. A friend was visiting his relatives at the time and planned to be quarantined. He was stunned when they let him through.

True, and Europeans were not blocked until way too late, (but Democrats opposed that too).
Yes we should have banned ALL non essential foreign travel and quarantined people returning but we did not.
Neither party supported doing it at the time.

It was a mistake, it cannot be reversed though. And what does that have to do with Amy Barret?

[The Reformed American Republic]

I have doubts about that, but even if true, there are other forms of corruption like having the government do business with your businesses (which are supposed to be in a blind trust) so you can make money off the government when in office. Trump does that with his hotels.

It is true, my friend. Biden makes WAAAAYYYYY more money off of Wall Street than Trump does, it's a fact.

Still, Trump's other forms of corruption make up for it, like profiting off the presidency and campaigns. What I said does happen... with Trump.

[Tarsonis]

Biden gave jobs to china. Who lost the jobs?

Trump, who's responsible for 30 million+ people being unemployed because of the pandemic which he exacerbated.

oof I felt the breeze from that swing and a miss. Red states that have reopened are doing better in the unemployment field. It's actually democrats who are keeping the unemployment high by keeping businesses closed.

[The Black Forrest]

Only Chinese nationals were affected by that. People coming back were not quarantined. A friend was visiting his relatives at the time and planned to be quarantined. He was stunned when they let him through.

True, and Europeans were not blocked until way too late, (but Democrats opposed that too).
Yes we should have banned ALL non essential foreign travel and quarantined people returning but we did not.
Neither party supported doing it at the time.

It was a mistake, it cannot be reversed though. And what does that have to do with Amy Barret?

Why aren’t you asking that of the others?

[The Reformed American Republic]

Only Chinese nationals were affected by that. People coming back were not quarantined. A friend was visiting his relatives at the time and planned to be quarantined. He was stunned when they let him through.

True, and Europeans were not blocked until way too late, (but Democrats opposed that too).
Yes we should have banned ALL non essential foreign travel and quarantined people returning but we did not.
Neither party supported doing it at the time.

It was a mistake, it cannot be reversed though. And what does that have to do with Amy Barret?

You're right, we're off topic.

[Albrenia]

Trump, who's responsible for 30 million+ people being unemployed because of the pandemic which he exacerbated.

Who wanted and still wants the jobs and government to be shut down. Biden.

Your economy would likely be in a much better state right now had the entire country worked in unison to clamp down on places with outbreaks, rather than half-measures and chaos presided over by Trump.

[The Federal Government of Iowa]

Who wanted and still wants the jobs and government to be shut down. Biden.

Biden isn't fucking in charge atm.

Trump and the Reps have been the only one's in charge for the past 4 years. Anything bad happened during that time? It's their fault.

And yes, Biden does want to keep things shut down, so that the death toll of 200,000+ doesn't reach 300,000+. But unlike the Reps, he actually supports the stimulus bills that the Reps have been ignoring in favor of ramming in a SCotUS pick.

What kinda paganistic nonsense is that? "aLiEnS sHoW uP aNd KiLl a MiLlIoN pEoPlE, IT'S ALL TRUMPS FAULT BECAUSE HE WAS PRESIDENT!"
Utter nonsense.

[Greed and Death]

I shouldn't think so

I think she will. They want to declare the ACA unconstitutional, and despite its flaws, it is better than the old system.

They likely wont. The theory they are arguing is weak. The theory is that because the mandate is now 0 it is no longer a tax and hence unconstitutional. In addition to it being unconstitutional it is inseverable from the rest of the ACA so the rest of the ACA would then fall.

The first problem is because the mandate is zero dollars it is very likely no one has standing to sue. You need to actually be harmed to sue, being fined zero dollars is not a harm.

Assuming they get around the standing issue and rule on the mandate severability is still an issue. When the Supreme court strikes down a law it may strike down the entire law or only strike down the offending section of the law. This is generally about congressional intent if congress would not like the law in place without the unconstitutional parts then they strike the entire law, if instead congress would prefer as much of the law remain in effect as possible then only the offending text would be struck down. Congress made the ACA with the mandate, but then congress reduced the mandate to 0, effectively repealing the mandate without repealing the rest of the law. If congress effectively repeals a section of the law it is very hard to argue they intend removing that section to take the entire law down.

Now where you might run into issues is if Biden were to bring back the mandate and overhaul the ACA to make Senile Care. Then and only then like Icarus will you have flown too close to the sun and gotten burnt.

[Romextly]

I will refocus

[Novus America]

That the lockdowns supported largely by Democrats actually crashed the economy, which would be true, shutting down businesses is bad for the economy. But what does that have to do with Amy Barret?

But anyways this is specifically about the confirmation. We have two other threads for the generic Trump bad stuff.

Not much actually. You know we take minor tangents here in NSG. Especially when we get new “oh those liberals!” types.....

Yes, but we should not take them too far. Their is a hate Trump thread, a general election thread, and a virus thread.
Who screwed up the virus worse is not really relevant to Amy Barret.

[Geneviev]

She will be confirmed a week before the election. How is this legal?

Because it adheres to the procedures and processes outlined in the Constitution regarding the nomination, confirmation, and appointment of a justice to the SCOTUS.

Unless you ask the people who did the nominating.

[New haven america]

1. If organizations like Hezbollah can be considered as such despite being a political party I see no reason why the GOP can't be labeled as such.

1. Hezbollah is considered a terrorist organization because it maintains a militant arm that has carried out terrorist attacks and massacres in the past two decades. Several governments distinguish between Hezbollah as a political party and Hezbollah's militant arm - which most in the West would consider a terrorist organization. Others do not. It's rather like how the IRA was the militant arm of Sinn Fein for awhile.

2. If those policies are made specifically to harm the population, they 100% can and should.

2. I'm skeptical that the GOP is acting deliberately to harm the population as a whole. If I described everyone who proposed policies I thought were smooth-brained or harmful to persons or society as a terrorist, I'd probably brand almost everyone who wasn't me or the ghost of Russell Kirk a terrorist.

3. It's not a hyperbole, it's a factual statement.

3. You know full well this isn't true, and I have no idea why you'd make such a brazenly false statement.

1. And the GOP terrorizes the US population through force of law. They don't need a military arm if they already control the law making process.
2. They are. The GOP only cares about their rich donors. Anyone else can go fuck themselves in their POV.
3. It is 100% true. Most of the GOP is a right wing extremist organization trying to turn the US into modern day Russia.

[Kowani]

Just so we're clear that includes Trump who is suing to get rid of the ACA. Look, I don't like Trump, and the reasons aren't because of his mean tweets or some other crap, but mainly because he wasn't as much of a populist as he presented himself as and he is corrupt, even by politician standards.

Biden is the one taking money from wall street not trump. Trump could but he isn't

Sources: None.

[Greed and Death]

Even if it increases taxes?......color me doubtful.

Neonatal care would solve many things. My mom worked on initiatives to make that free and it was fought....

Nothing inherently wrong with taxes.

Just as long as my taxes are kept low I wont work with those seeking to undercut abortion rights.

[The Federal Government of Iowa]

Biden is the one taking money from wall street not trump. Trump could but he isn't

Sources: None.

False. Do your research, it's true.
head hurts because liberals

[Senkaku]

Biden isn't fucking in charge atm.

Trump and the Reps have been the only one's in charge for the past 4 years. Anything bad happened during that time? It's their fault.

And yes, Biden does want to keep things shut down, so that the death toll of 200,000+ doesn't reach 300,000+. But unlike the Reps, he actually supports the stimulus bills that the Reps have been ignoring in favor of ramming in a SCotUS pick.

What kinda paganistic nonsense is that? "aLiEnS sHoW uP aNd KiLl a MiLlIoN pEoPlE, IT'S ALL TRUMPS FAULT BECAUSE HE WAS PRESIDENT!"
Utter nonsense.

I think a better analogy would be if he chose not to even try to shoot down any of the alien ships and then himself nearly died in an alien attack but still kept saying that the aliens would leave for Alpha Centauri any day now

[New haven america]

Biden is the one taking money from wall street not trump. Trump could but he isn't

Sources: None.

I mean, Trump would probably lose money anyway.

Reminder, Trump was singlehandedly responsible for 1% of all US economic losses in the 1990's.

[Romextly]

Biden is the one taking money from wall street not trump. Trump could but he isn't

Sources: None.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/10/23/trust-index-did-biden-take-more-money-from-wall-street-than-trump-did/

[Greater Miami Shores]

I think this thread is getting way off topic and I will not participate in it. So I say, lets watch and discuss ACB-Amy Coney Barrett. a highly qualified US Supreme Court Justice, sworn in Ceremony, by Justice Clarence Thomas,
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... y-barrett/

GMS.

A few excerpts:
President Donald Trump will host a swearing-in ceremony for Amy Coney Barrett on Monday at the White House.
The Senate voted to confirm Barrett Monday evening.

The president and Barrett will be joined by her family, supporters, and likely several Senate Republicans.
Justice Clarence Thomas will conduct the ceremony instead of Chief Justice John Roberts.

2020 ElectionLaw and OrderPoliticsAmy Coney BarrettClarence ThomasDonald TrumpWhite House

[Romextly]

Thats nice

[New haven america]

Biden isn't fucking in charge atm.

Trump and the Reps have been the only one's in charge for the past 4 years. Anything bad happened during that time? It's their fault.

And yes, Biden does want to keep things shut down, so that the death toll of 200,000+ doesn't reach 300,000+. But unlike the Reps, he actually supports the stimulus bills that the Reps have been ignoring in favor of ramming in a SCotUS pick.

What kinda paganistic nonsense is that? "aLiEnS sHoW uP aNd KiLl a MiLlIoN pEoPlE, IT'S ALL TRUMPS FAULT BECAUSE HE WAS PRESIDENT!"
Utter nonsense.

Your analogy sucks and you should feel bad for having made it, but I got ninja'd so here you go:

What kinda paganistic nonsense is that? "aLiEnS sHoW uP aNd KiLl a MiLlIoN pEoPlE, IT'S ALL TRUMPS FAULT BECAUSE HE WAS PRESIDENT!"
Utter nonsense.

I think a better analogy would be if he chose not to even try to shoot down any of the alien ships and then himself nearly died in an alien attack but still kept saying that the aliens would leave for Alpha Centauri any day now

[The Two Jerseys]

But hey every house should own a cannon eh?

Absolutely. Imagine someone breaks into your house and you just holler "tally ho!" and let fly some scattershot. Also, we should let citizens commit the casual bit of piracy again.

This, but unironically.

[Geneviev]

Sources: None.

False. Do your research, it's true.
head hurts because liberals

If you have sources, you might as well share them instead of repeating that it's true.

Also, Kowani isn't liberal as far as I know?

[New haven america]

False. Do your research, it's true.
head hurts because liberals

If you have sources, you might as well share them instead of repeating that it's true.

Also, Kowani isn't liberal as far as I know?

Liberal is a buzzword they use to label anything they think is bad or doesn't make sense in their logic.