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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:05 pm

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:Unfortunately, others in the Republican party don't share that view.

True

Just so we're clear that includes Trump who is suing to get rid of the ACA. Look, I don't like Trump, and the reasons aren't because of his mean tweets or some other crap, but mainly because he wasn't as much of a populist as he presented himself as and he is corrupt, even by politician standards.
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Postby Romextly » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:05 pm

New haven america wrote:
Romextly wrote:Economic gains? We have more jobs and a better economy.

Ah, I get it, you're just being sarcastic.

Biden gave jobs to china. Who lost the jobs?

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Postby New Steuben » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:05 pm

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New haven america wrote:1. In 4 years Trump: Lost all the economic gains made by Obama, burned all of the US' allies, caused an easily preventable disease to become a pandemic with 200,000+ death, and lead to the largest unemployment rate in US history.


2. I'm not on the left so fuck your unoriginal buzzwords. Get new material please, you had 4 years but I guess that's too little time? :)

Economic gains? We have more jobs and a better economy.



Democrats Destroy the Economy and turn around and say: WOW look at all these jobless people it's Trumps fault! also, shut down all the stores!!! hehehe fuck Trump.

They are like that brother who hit's his sister then pretends like hes not doing anything wrong when the parents come into the room.
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:05 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:
Are you sure you live here? The Trump pandemic and the tanked economy?

Trump took out the travels to china where the virus started


Too bad everything he's done since then has just made it so much worse. Even if he did manage to stop it coming direct from China though, I doubt it would have prevented the disease from reaching America's shores.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:05 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:
Are you sure you live here? The Trump pandemic and the tanked economy?

Not Trump's fault. If you believe it is, you are rather ignorant of the topic. That is another debate for another time, however.


Covid existing? Nobody blames Trump for that.

The way he handled it? Absolutely.
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Postby The Federal Government of Iowa » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:05 pm

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New Steuben wrote:
Your being dramatic

1. they said Trump was going to destroy America and here we are 4 years later and more or less nothing has changed

2. :roll: Leftists are fucking wild

1. In 4 years Trump: Lost all the economic gains made by Obama, burned all of the US' allies, caused an easily preventable disease to become a pandemic with 200,000+ death, and lead to the largest unemployment rate in US history.


2. I'm not on the left so fuck your unoriginal buzzwords. Get new material please, you had 4 years but I guess that's too little time? :)

"Easily preventable" my a##. Look at all of Europe, goodness. They've all been doing different things, some more intense than the US and some less but they're all getting hit with another wave of covid! What does that mean? Nobody has a d### clue what to do about a global pandemic that was here as early as late January.
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Postby Romextly » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:06 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Romextly wrote:True

Just so we're clear that includes Trump who is suing to get rid of the ACA. Look, I don't like Trump, and the reasons aren't because of his mean tweets or some other crap, but mainly because he wasn't as much of a populist as he presented himself as and he is corrupt, even by politician standards.

Biden is the one taking money from wall street not trump. Trump could but he isn't

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Postby Fahran » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:06 pm

New haven america wrote:1. If organizations like Hezbollah can be considered as such despite being a political party I see no reason why the GOP can't be labeled as such.

Hezbollah is considered a terrorist organization because it maintains a militant arm that has carried out terrorist attacks and massacres in the past two decades. Several governments distinguish between Hezbollah as a political party and Hezbollah's militant arm - which most in the West would consider a terrorist organization. Others do not. It's rather like how the IRA was the militant arm of Sinn Fein for awhile.

New haven america wrote:2. If those policies are made specifically to harm the population, they 100% can and should.

I'm skeptical that the GOP is acting deliberately to harm the population as a whole. If I described everyone who proposed policies I thought were smooth-brained or harmful to persons or society as a terrorist, I'd probably brand almost everyone who wasn't me or the ghost of Russell Kirk a terrorist.

New haven america wrote:3. It's not a hyperbole, it's a factual statement.

You know full well this isn't true, and I have no idea why you'd make such a brazenly false statement.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:06 pm

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New haven america wrote:Ah, I get it, you're just being sarcastic.

Biden gave jobs to china. Who lost the jobs?

Trump, who's responsible for 30 million+ people being unemployed because of the pandemic which he exacerbated.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:07 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
New Steuben wrote:
Your being dramatic

they said Trump was going to destroy America and here we are 4 years later and more or less nothing has changed

:roll: Leftists are fucking wild


Are you sure you live here? The Trump pandemic and the tanked economy?

This is not the proper thread for it, and all of us have been back and forth on this many times. So I wont go into details this time, :) lol. It is not President Trump's fault, but many leftists, other persons, Biden and the Democrats love to blame president Trump for it. I answered your question and I drop it, because I don't want neither of us to get accused of a thread jack and get in trouble for it. Peace over and out from this side issue, you brought up, on the wrong thread.

Thank you for sharing your views and opinions on this issue, with me and us.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:07 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:
Are you sure you live here? The Trump pandemic and the tanked economy?

Trump took out the travels to china where the virus started


Only Chinese nationals were affected by that. People coming back were not quarantined. A friend was visiting his relatives at the time and planned to be quarantined. He was stunned when they let him through.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:07 pm

New Steuben wrote:
Romextly wrote:Economic gains? We have more jobs and a better economy.



Democrats Destroy the Economy and turn around and say: WOW look at all these jobless people it's Trumps fault! also, shut down all the stores!!! hehehe fuck Trump.

They are like that brother who hit's his sister then pretends like hes not doing anything wrong when the parents come into the room.

Actually, economic gain in the US has always been highest when the left was in charge.
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Postby Novus America » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:07 pm

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Trump can't stop a global pandemic


True. He just made it worse in the US.

and the economy tanked and has continued to tank when Democrat mayors/govenors crush their economies and then bitch.

It's not Trumps fault that little hitlers like Whitmer exist.


I am not sure what you are trying to say here.


That the lockdowns supported largely by Democrats actually crashed the economy, which would be true, shutting down businesses is bad for the economy. But what does that have to do with Amy Barret?

But anyways this is specifically about the confirmation. We have two other threads for the generic Trump bad stuff.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:07 pm

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The Federal Government of Iowa wrote:Yes, it's sad indeed. More and more Conservatives are becoming for programs that would help the new parent/s.


Even if it increases taxes?......color me doubtful.

Neonatal care would solve many things. My mom worked on initiatives to make that free and it was fought....


Nothing inherently wrong with taxes.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:07 pm

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Fahran wrote:They're not calling to ban an entire mainstream political organization by branding them a terrorist group and using the DHS to suppress them - which, to put it mildly, is completely insane.

But the GOP is a Right-Wing extremist/terrorist organization.

They actively terrorize the US population by stripping it of its rights, freedoms, and protections and want to reform the US into a modern day Russia. What about that isn't evil?



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Postby Romextly » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:07 pm

New haven america wrote:
Romextly wrote:Biden gave jobs to china. Who lost the jobs?

Trump, who's responsible for 30 million+ people being unemployed because of the pandemic which he exacerbated.

Who wanted and still wants the jobs and government to be shut down. Biden.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:08 pm

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:Just so we're clear that includes Trump who is suing to get rid of the ACA. Look, I don't like Trump, and the reasons aren't because of his mean tweets or some other crap, but mainly because he wasn't as much of a populist as he presented himself as and he is corrupt, even by politician standards.

Biden is the one taking money from wall street not trump. Trump could but he isn't

I have doubts about that, but even if true, there are other forms of corruption like having the government do business with your businesses (which are supposed to be in a blind trust) so you can make money off the government when in office. Trump does that with his hotels.
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Postby The Federal Government of Iowa » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:08 pm

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Romextly wrote:Biden gave jobs to china. Who lost the jobs?

Trump, who's responsible for 30 million+ people being unemployed because of the pandemic which he exacerbated.

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Trump has done nothing to make this any worse. He's followed what the CDC said rather well, if you look at it. You really ought to get your head out of CNN and MSNBC every once in a while.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:08 pm

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The Federal Government of Iowa wrote:Not Trump's fault. If you believe it is, you are rather ignorant of the topic. That is another debate for another time, however.


Covid existing? Nobody blames Trump for that.

They way he handled it? Absolutely.

Nah, Trump spreading COVID disinformation during his press briefings, tossing the buck to the governors, and encouraging domestic terrorism is ideal leadership.

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Postby Geneviev » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:08 pm

She will be confirmed a week before the election. How is this legal?
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Postby The Federal Government of Iowa » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:08 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Romextly wrote:Biden is the one taking money from wall street not trump. Trump could but he isn't

I have doubts about that, but even if true, there are other forms of corruption like having the government do business with your businesses (which are supposed to be in a blind trust) so you can make money off the government when in office. Trump does that with his hotels.

It is true, my friend. Biden makes WAAAAYYYYY more money off of Wall Street than Trump does, it's a fact.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:09 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:But hey every house should own a cannon eh?

Absolutely. Imagine someone breaks into your house and you just holler "tally ho!" and let fly some scattershot. Also, we should let citizens commit the casual bit of piracy again.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:09 pm

Geneviev wrote:She will be confirmed a week before the election. How is this legal?

Standards only matter if you're a Democrat.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:09 pm

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New haven america wrote:Trump, who's responsible for 30 million+ people being unemployed because of the pandemic which he exacerbated.

Who wanted and still wants the jobs and government to be shut down. Biden.

Biden isn't fucking in charge atm.

Trump and the Reps have been the only one's in charge for the past 4 years. Anything bad happened during that time? It's their fault.

And yes, Biden does want to keep things shut down, so that the death toll of 200,000+ doesn't reach 300,000+. But unlike the Reps, he actually supports the stimulus bills that the Reps have been ignoring in favor of ramming in a SCotUS pick.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:09 pm

Geneviev wrote:She will be confirmed a week before the election. How is this legal?

Because it adheres to the procedures and processes outlined in the Constitution regarding the nomination, confirmation, and appointment of a justice to the SCOTUS.
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