Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict: The Great Betrayal

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Can't be against fascism if you are a fascist.

Looking at Turkey and Azerbaijan.

Describing the current regimes in Azerbaijan or Turkey as "fascist" is an insult to actual Fascists TBH. What do they have to do w/ Giovanni Gentile?

The only solution is for the damed Turks to cease thinking they have any right to land that’s not their’s and never was legitimately their’s. Ever. It is Artsakh and always was Artsakh. Just because a few rats live in your house doesn’t mean they get to make it their nest.

Are Wales, Scotland, or Northern Ireland legitimately British? If so, how are British claims to those territories legitimate but not Azeri claims over Nagorno-Karabakh? Why are Turks "rats" but not Anglos?

Northern Ireland shouldn't be part of Britain. Give it back to the Republic

[Salus Maior]

Northern Ireland shouldn't be part of Britain. Give it back to the Republic

Well, the thing is, NI is separate from Ireland because most of the population want to remain with Britain.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Northern Ireland shouldn't be part of Britain. Give it back to the Republic

Well, the thing is, NI is separate from Ireland because most of the population want to remain with Britain.

Give back South Armagh to the republic and then maybe they can negotiate something.

[Salus Maior]

Well, the thing is, NI is separate from Ireland because most of the population want to remain with Britain.

Give back South Armagh to the republic and then maybe they can negotiate something.

Either way, things are more or less stable in Ireland right now.

Unlike the Caucasus at the moment.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Can't be against fascism if you are a fascist.

Looking at Turkey and Azerbaijan.

Describing the current regimes in Azerbaijan or Turkey as "fascist" is an insult to actual Fascists TBH. What do they have to do w/ Giovanni Gentile?

I’ve given up trying to explain; people just use "fascist" to refer to everything they don’t like, both the left and the right. If you read out actual fascist beliefs without mentioning the name of the ideology, 9/10 Americans would say that sounds like "far left socializm"

[United States of Devonta]

Azeri forces are close to the Armenian border in the Southeastern axis.

[Salus Maior]

Describing the current regimes in Azerbaijan or Turkey as "fascist" is an insult to actual Fascists TBH. What do they have to do w/ Giovanni Gentile?

I’ve given up trying to explain; people just use "fascist" to refer to everything they don’t like, both the left and the right. If you read out actual fascist beliefs without mentioning the name of the ideology, 9/10 Americans would say that sounds like "far left socializm"

It's more about whether a regime hits the same or similar beats as the historical Fascists rather than if they're ideologically pure Fascists.

That being said, iirc Mussolini did point to Ataturk's Turkey as an example of certain fascist concepts being successful.

[Saiwania]

Azeri forces are close to the Armenian border in the Southeastern axis.

Russia can turn the tide in Armenia's favor, but why won't they considering thats its been verified by now that Azerbaijan attacked first? Armenia might be on its own, and its not good to back a loser if this really is going to be the case.

[United States of Devonta]

Azeri forces are close to the Armenian border in the Southeastern axis.

Russia can turn the tide in Armenia's favor, but why won't they considering thats its been verified by now that Azerbaijan attacked first? Armenia might be on its own, and its not good to back a loser if this really is going to be the case.

Yeah, but I doubt they will. Russian troops are on the Armenian border with Karabagh to ensure Azeri troops don't past. I think Russia is willing to let the Azeris take back Karabagh. The international community recognizes it as Azerbaijan and it wouldn't threaten Russian interest in the area. Also, the intervention of Turkey complicates things for Russia.

[Kergstan]

Armenia has no strategic importance or asset that can bring to the table whatsoever while in the meantime has the sympathy of most of the world but of the turks and azeris of course.

In the meantime Azerbaijan is the source of natural gas for the TAP alternative to Russia and has good trade relations with both Turkey and Israel.

On another note turks sending their jihadists ina new conflict is a real lowlife move, as you can expect from them, but i can see why, in Syria they went in tanks and returned in bags.

[The Restored Danelaw]

Nobody alienates he says, while proposing "solutions" that would be categorically opposed by 99% of the Greek Cypriots.

But hey, I have a solution that "nobody alienates" for NK too. Let Armenia officially annex NK and the surrounding regions at gunpoint, and Nakhchivan too while we're at it. Then have the rest of the world officially recognize it, problem solved, nobody alienate.

The only solution for Nagorno-Karabakh is Armenia's withdrawal from the occupied territories. You must learn to be one heart against injustice, the era of crusades is now over. We are in the 21st century

Why are you so shy in admitting you hate Armenians so much you want to commit genocide? I mean this isn't a rare view among those who speak Turkish in the Middle East, but -apart from you- none of them have tried to hide this view under a thin façade of civil discourse before. Almost Everyone who lives in Artsakh is Armenian. The People of Artsakh have literally no wish to be part of the Baku republic, and the Baku republic has equally little wish for them to. This isn't a secret to anyone, we all know what you mean when you say shit like that. At least be brave enough to openly say "I hate Armenian so much I want to kill at least 140,000 of them".

[SD_Film Artists]

Northern Ireland shouldn't be part of Britain. Give it back to the Republic

Well, the thing is, NI is separate from Ireland because most of the population want to remain with Britain.

That and you can't "give back" something that was never owned by the other party in the first place, unless you count the Republic as the direct successor to pre-Boyne Ireland. Either way, it always strikes me as ironic how people wanting a united Ireland are against the union.

[SD_Film Artists]

Nobody alienates he says, while proposing "solutions" that would be categorically opposed by 99% of the Greek Cypriots.

But hey, I have a solution that "nobody alienates" for NK too. Let Armenia officially annex NK and the surrounding regions at gunpoint, and Nakhchivan too while we're at it. Then have the rest of the world officially recognize it, problem solved, nobody alienate.

The only solution for Nagorno-Karabakh is Armenia's withdrawal from the occupied territories. You must learn to be one heart against injustice, the era of crusades is now over. We are in the 21st century

The only solution for Jerusalem is Saracen withdrawal from the occupied holy land. You must learn to be one heart against injustice, the era of crusades is now over. We are in the 12th century.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Well, the thing is, NI is separate from Ireland because most of the population want to remain with Britain.

That and you can't "give back" something that was never owned by the other party in the first place, unless you count the Republic as the direct successor to pre-Boyne Ireland. Either way, it always strikes me as ironic how people wanting a united Ireland are against the union.

Its not ironic at all actually but okay

[The Huskar Social Union]

Any more word on the ceasefire? Are they still violating it?

[Insaanistan]

Any more word on the ceasefire? Are they still violating it?

Yup.

[Heloin]

Any more word on the ceasefire? Are they still violating it?

The ceasefire is in place and everyone violates it constantly.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Any more word on the ceasefire? Are they still violating it?

The ceasefire is in place and everyone violates it constantly.

In practice then there is no ceasefire.

[Saiwania]

If the military situation is hopeless for Armenia- I'm now in favor of Nagorno-Karabakh being ceded to Azerbaijan, in exchange for all residents there being allowed to voluntarily relocate into Armenia proper. They're going to want to anyways, being that they identify more with Armenia but will suffer under Azerbaijan's rule if they stay.

I see this as a good basis for an armistice if both nations will get some of what they want. But Azerbaijan will unfortunately be given the disputed land if they've proven to be the victor at this point.

If Azerbaijan invades all of Armenia however, Armenia should fight to the last; being that the conflict will turn existential in nature.

[The Huskar Social Union]

If the military situation is hopeless for Armenia- I'm now in favor of Nagorno-Karabakh being ceded to Azerbaijan, in exchange for all residents there being allowed to voluntarily relocate into Armenia proper. They're going to want to anyways, being that they identify more with Armenia but will suffer under Azerbaijan's rule if they stay.

I see this as a good basis for an armistice if both nations will get some of what they want. But Azerbaijan will unfortunately be given the disputed land if they've proven to be the victor at this point.

If Azerbaijan invades all of Armenia however, Armenia should fight to the last; being that the conflict will turn existential in nature.

Off you go and fight yourself then, show everyone what a big brave boy you are wanting total war and thousands of deaths.

[Kowani]

The Azeri president has said the Armenians can have “cultural autonomy.”

Nobody was fooled.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

If the military situation is hopeless for Armenia- I'm now in favor of Nagorno-Karabakh being ceded to Azerbaijan, in exchange for all residents there being allowed to voluntarily relocate into Armenia proper. They're going to want to anyways, being that they identify more with Armenia but will suffer under Azerbaijan's rule if they stay.

I see this as a good basis for an armistice if both nations will get some of what they want. But Azerbaijan will unfortunately be given the disputed land if they've proven to be the victor at this point.

If Azerbaijan invades all of Armenia however, Armenia should fight to the last; being that the conflict will turn existential in nature.

I'm now convinced you've never seen someone die or known someone who was murdered, cause as someone who has I abhor senseless bloodshed.

[Saiwania]

I'm now convinced you've never seen someone die or known someone who was murdered, cause as someone who has I abhor senseless bloodshed.

People are too soft in today's era which really annoys me. The war against the Islamic State I'd call a real war in terms of intensity, numbers, and displacement of forces. This in comparison is a low intensity conflict that is quite minor. I'd say the people in the militaries of their respective nations, knew what they signed up for and can handle a bit of sacrifice or tragedy.

[Andsed]

I'm now convinced you've never seen someone die or known someone who was murdered, cause as someone who has I abhor senseless bloodshed.

People are too soft in today's era which really annoys me. The war against the Islamic State I'd call a real war in terms of intensity, numbers, and displacement of forces. This in comparison is a low intensity conflict that is quite minor. I'd say the people in the militaries of their respective nations, knew what they signed up for and can handle a bit of sacrifice or tragedy.

Casually ignoring the fact that medieval and ancient soldiers did get traumatized because war is fucking horrifying I see.

[Salus Maior]

If the military situation is hopeless for Armenia...

It ain't over 'til it's over.