The Tulsa Massacre of 1921-and reparations.

[Torisakia]

Reminds me of a survivor of the 1963 16th Street Baptist Church Bombing here in Birmingham who recently sought compensation from the state of Alabama due to the "decades of physical and emotional pain she has endured" (quoted from the full article here).

I say we pay this survivor If you or a loved one can receive financial compensation for being diagnosed with Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma, Lukemia, or other diseases of the blood as a result of using RoundUp, then you or a loved one can receive financial compensation for being a direct victim of racial violence.

[Salus Maior]

I think they have a case for suing the city.

[Freiheit Reich]

The Black community in the United States has been treated extremely poorly and still doesn't receive the justice it deserves.

And yet very few are willing to move back to Africa despite the fact that Ghana offered them refuge. Also, the USA has several cities that are almost entirely African-American (East St. Louis, Gary, Detroit) but many blacks have LEFT those cities and moved to places with a smaller percentage of blacks? Why would they leave such cities if other races treat them so badly? Why are so many blacks in America working as managers, teachers, military leaders, entrepreneurs, professors, doctors, etc... if the USA won't give them opportunities to succeed? Furthermore, many Africans want to move to the United States. If the USA is such a racist country, why do so many black people want to move to the USA? A good post below details this weird fact:

The Left: The United States Is A Racist Hellhole Where Many More Black And Brown People Should Live

https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/09/th ... ould-live/

GHANIAN MINISTER INVITES AFRICAN AMERICANS TO RE-SETTLE IN THE COUNTRY AMID PROTESTS

https://www.blackenterprise.com/ghanian ... -protests/

[Freiheit Reich]

Unlike with slavery reparations we have a clearly defined damages and a clearly defined group of victims and their descants. The issue we do run into is we do not have a clearly defined perpetrator. The White mob who burned Black Wall street are no longer alive.

Pretty sure the city is paying the damages, which is about as close as you can get.

Correction: Tulsa taxpayers will be footing the bill, including the 15% of Tulsa citizens that are African-American. I wonder how many of these taxpayers actually participated in the massacre. A teenager participating in the 1921 massacre would be over 110 by now. I doubt many children were burning down homes and businesses then. I guess the USA wants to be like North Korea and punish three generations for crimes.

[Kowani]

The Black community in the United States has been treated extremely poorly and still doesn't receive the justice it deserves.

And yet very few are willing to move back to Africa despite the fact that Ghana offered them refuge.

Just off the top of my head, the life expectancy in Ghana is 62 years. The life expectancy for African-Americans is about 10-9 years more than that. Also, the lack of infrastructure, mass poverty, totally different languages and cultures, and lack of economic opportunities. Also...emigration is expensive, and black people tend to fall on the lower side of the income spectrum.

Also, the USA has several cities that are almost entirely African-American (East St. Louis, Gary, Detroit) but many blacks have LEFT those cities and moved to places with a smaller percentage of blacks? Why would they leave such cities if other races treat them so badly?

Poverty, deindustrialization, crime.

Why are so many blacks in America working as managers, teachers, military leaders, entrepreneurs, professors, doctors, etc... if the USA won't give them opportunities to succeed?

...This is a non-sequitur, and it's a very bad one. (As a side note, not many doctors or professors are black-only 6.5% of PhD holders are black, and only 6.2% of medical school graduates are. Also...most entrepreneurs fail, managers and teachers aren't paid that well, and it's just...well, a fact that black Americans have less opportunities than white Americans.

Furthermore, many Africans want to move to the United States. If the USA is such a racist country, why do so many black people want to move to the USA? A good post below details this weird fact:

The Left: The United States Is A Racist Hellhole Where Many More Black And Brown People Should Live

https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/09/th ... ould-live/

This is PragerU tier stupid.

[Freiheit Reich]

And yet very few are willing to move back to Africa despite the fact that Ghana offered them refuge.

Just off the top of my head, the life expectancy in Ghana is 62 years. The life expectancy for African-Americans is about 10-9 years more than that. Also, the lack of infrastructure, mass poverty, totally different languages and cultures, and lack of economic opportunities. Also...emigration is expensive, and black people tend to fall on the lower side of the income spectrum.

Also, the USA has several cities that are almost entirely African-American (East St. Louis, Gary, Detroit) but many blacks have LEFT those cities and moved to places with a smaller percentage of blacks? Why would they leave such cities if other races treat them so badly?

Poverty, deindustrialization, crime.

Why are so many blacks in America working as managers, teachers, military leaders, entrepreneurs, professors, doctors, etc... if the USA won't give them opportunities to succeed?

...This is a non-sequitur, and it's a very bad one. (As a side note, not many doctors or professors are black-only 6.5% of PhD holders are black, and only 6.2% of medical school graduates are. Also...most entrepreneurs fail, managers and teachers aren't paid that well, and it's just...well, a fact that black Americans have less opportunities than white Americans.

Furthermore, many Africans want to move to the United States. If the USA is such a racist country, why do so many black people want to move to the USA? A good post below details this weird fact:

The Left: The United States Is A Racist Hellhole Where Many More Black And Brown People Should Live

https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/09/th ... ould-live/

This is PragerU tier stupid.

So you admit that blacks in the USA are doing better than blacks in Africa (at least Ghana) despite being in a nation where there are so many 'evil' racist white people who hate them (as BLM claims).

You also admit that blacks have more opportunities for success in cities where they are not an overwhelming majority compared to cities where they are a huge majority (as we can see from moving patterns).

Managers get paid better than workers. This is why they have a higher rank in a business. The exception is restaurants where servers make huge tips. However, many blacks also work as servers in popular restaurants and make good money in that occupation as well. Teachers get paid well in certain states like Connecticut and California.

Perhaps in fairness, the USA should offer a free one way ticket to all black citizens back to Africa and the USA should try to work with African countries to get compensation in return for accepting blacks that feel they want to go back to their motherland. This would be the best solution for blacks that feel the USA is a racist hellhole.

Also, poor migrants from Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan are managing to make it to Europe. Black Americans are wealthier than most people in these poor nations. If they are unhappy, perhaps they can go to Canada and claim refugee status but it seems few think the USA is that bad. I think most blacks think the USA is good and a small amount are just trying to use white guilt to score free money. Scammers exist in all races.

[Sundiata]

Just off the top of my head, the life expectancy in Ghana is 62 years. The life expectancy for African-Americans is about 10-9 years more than that. Also, the lack of infrastructure, mass poverty, totally different languages and cultures, and lack of economic opportunities. Also...emigration is expensive, and black people tend to fall on the lower side of the income spectrum.

Poverty, deindustrialization, crime.
...This is a non-sequitur, and it's a very bad one. (As a side note, not many doctors or professors are black-only 6.5% of PhD holders are black, and only 6.2% of medical school graduates are. Also...most entrepreneurs fail, managers and teachers aren't paid that well, and it's just...well, a fact that black Americans have less opportunities than white Americans.

This is PragerU tier stupid.

So you admit that blacks in the USA are doing better than blacks in Africa (at least Ghana) despite being in a nation where there are so many 'evil' racist white people who hate them (as BLM claims).

You also admit that blacks have more opportunities for success in cities where they are not an overwhelming majority compared to cities where they are a huge majority (as we can see from moving patterns).

Managers get paid better than workers. This is why they have a higher rank in a business. The exception is restaurants where servers make huge tips. However, many blacks also work as servers in popular restaurants and make good money in that occupation as well. Teachers get paid well in certain states like Connecticut and California.

Perhaps in fairness, the USA should offer a free one way ticket to all black citizens back to Africa and the USA should try to work with African countries to get compensation in return for accepting blacks that feel they want to go back to their motherland. This would be the best solution for blacks that feel the USA is a racist hellhole.

Also, poor migrants from Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan are managing to make it to Europe. Black Americans are wealthier than most people in these poor nations. If they are unhappy, perhaps they can go to Canada and claim refugee status but it seems few think the USA is that bad. I think most blacks think the USA is good and a small amount are just trying to use white guilt to score free money. Scammers exist in all races.

The largest section of the Black community in the United States is African-Americans. The experience of every black person is not interchangeable. Furthermore, many black immigrants to the United States are already educated. With respect to them, that's a step ahead of many people in the United States, an advantage.

The Black community throughout American history and today have been severely mistreated.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I don’t see any reason not to give reparations

For this only. Not for slavery.

[Sundiata]

Black Americans are wealthier than most people in these poor nations. If they are unhappy, perhaps they can go to Canada and claim refugee status but it seems few think the USA is that bad. I think most blacks think the USA is good and a small amount are just trying to use white guilt to score free money. Scammers exist in all races.

Public services need to receive adequate funding. Providing the Black community in the United States with what most Americans take for granted is not entitlement, it's fairness.

I don't mean to condescend but how familiar are you with the practice of segregation, redlining, slavery, and why poverty effects who it does? I ask you because the past impacts our present. If any these things didn't happen to your ancestors or anyone you know, or you yourself, you're a very fortunate person in that respect.

[Valrifell]

I don’t see any reason not to give reparations

For this only. Not for slavery.

Thank you for clarifying, that was totally ambiguous otherwise.

[The Reformed American Republic]

For this only. Not for slavery.

Thank you for clarifying, that was totally ambiguous otherwise.

Leftists love to go further, so apparently you all need the reminder.

[Punished UMN]

It's recent enough ago and probably caused such multi-generational effects that there probably should be some form of reparation.

[Saiyan Galactic Empire]

I agree. Every living victim of the Tulsa massacre of 1921 can receive just compensation. Sounds fair to me.

When is England going to compensate me and other Irish Americans from driving us from our homes 200 years ago by their negligence during the potato famine?

[Punished UMN]

:lol2: I agree. Every living victim of the Tulsa massacre of 1921 can receive just compensation. Sounds fair to me.

When is England going to compensate me and other Irish Americans from driving us from our homes 200 years ago by their negligence during the potato famine?

Negligence during a potato famine 200 years ago is quite a bit different than murdering people less than 100 years ago.

[Saiyan Galactic Empire]

:lol2: I agree. Every living victim of the Tulsa massacre of 1921 can receive just compensation. Sounds fair to me.

When is England going to compensate me and other Irish Americans from driving us from our homes 200 years ago by their negligence during the potato famine?

Negligence during a potato famine 200 years ago is quite a bit different than murdering people less than 100 years ago.

Not really. 100 or 200 years, either way theyre all dead and we're dealing with the consequences today. A lot more people died in the potato famine and it was a little more than negligence. It was deliberate on the part of the British government

[Washington Resistance Army]

:lol2: I agree. Every living victim of the Tulsa massacre of 1921 can receive just compensation. Sounds fair to me.

When is England going to compensate me and other Irish Americans from driving us from our homes 200 years ago by their negligence during the potato famine?

Negligence during a potato famine 200 years ago is quite a bit different than murdering people less than 100 years ago.

I dunno anon potatoes are pretty serious business. Arguably more so than murder.

[Sundiata]

:lol2: I agree. Every living victim of the Tulsa massacre of 1921 can receive just compensation. Sounds fair to me.

When is England going to compensate me and other Irish Americans from driving us from our homes 200 years ago by their negligence during the potato famine?

I don't think you understand the broader context of why the Tulsa massacre is so significant. It is one of many atrocities, including but not limited to slavery and segregation de jure and defacto.

[Saiyan Galactic Empire]

:lol2: I agree. Every living victim of the Tulsa massacre of 1921 can receive just compensation. Sounds fair to me.

When is England going to compensate me and other Irish Americans from driving us from our homes 200 years ago by their negligence during the potato famine?

I don't think you understand the broader context of why the Tulsa massacre is so significant. It is one of many atrocities, including but not limited to slavery and segregation de jure and defacto.

Yeah irish suffered just as many indignities at the hands of England. And slavery is a whole other issue.

[North American Imperial State]

Negligence during a potato famine 200 years ago is quite a bit different than murdering people less than 100 years ago.

Not really. 100 or 200 years, either way theyre all dead and we're dealing with the consequences today. A lot more people died in the potato famine and it was a little more than negligence. It was deliberate on the part of the British government

Properly never

[Punished UMN]

Negligence during a potato famine 200 years ago is quite a bit different than murdering people less than 100 years ago.

Not really. 100 or 200 years, either way theyre all dead and we're dealing with the consequences today. A lot more people died in the potato famine and it was a little more than negligence. It was deliberate on the part of the British government

Not really, it was caused by a blight. Government response being lacking and ineffective does not deliberate make.

[Saiyan Galactic Empire]

Negligence during a potato famine 200 years ago is quite a bit different than murdering people less than 100 years ago.

I dunno anon potatoes are pretty serious business. Arguably more so than murder.

Lol the holodomor wasn't murder it was just bread business. Same with the holocaust victims who starved to death. Nope, not murder. Just incomparable bread business.

Same difference . Whether you starve them out or cudgel then to death.

[Punished UMN]

I dunno anon potatoes are pretty serious business. Arguably more so than murder.

Lol the holodomor wasn't murder it was just bread business. Same with the holocaust victims who starved to death. Nope, not murder. Just incomparable bread business.

Same difference . Whether you starve them out or cudgel then to death.

Comparing the Irish Potato Famine to how the Holodomor happened or even to how the Holocaust happened is just historically illiterate bullshit made up by Irish nationalists.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Negligence during a potato famine 200 years ago is quite a bit different than murdering people less than 100 years ago.

Not really. 100 or 200 years, either way theyre all dead and we're dealing with the consequences today. A lot more people died in the potato famine and it was a little more than negligence. It was deliberate on the part of the British government

Good argument against slavery reparations but not this.

[Saiyan Galactic Empire]

Not really. 100 or 200 years, either way theyre all dead and we're dealing with the consequences today. A lot more people died in the potato famine and it was a little more than negligence. It was deliberate on the part of the British government

Not really, it was caused by a blight. Government response being lacking and ineffective does not deliberate make.

Lol they didn't give a shit about the Irish. They sat in their English mansions and were indifferent to the whole thing.

[Saiyan Galactic Empire]

Not really. 100 or 200 years, either way theyre all dead and we're dealing with the consequences today. A lot more people died in the potato famine and it was a little more than negligence. It was deliberate on the part of the British government

Good argument against slavery reparations but not this.

It wouldn't be a good argument if any of the victims were still alive. If you're gonna compensate people at my tax payer expense for shit that happened to their great grandfathers I might as well get compensated for all the shit that happened to mine