by Neuer Deutsches Reich » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:40 pm
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:43 pm
by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:46 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:The German Imperial flag (and it's variants) was used by the Nazis. If it didn't, the German Empire has it's own dark history of colonialism in Africa and it being the first nation in WWI to use chemical weapons, probably some other stuff I'm missing.
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by Neuer Deutsches Reich » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:52 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:The German Imperial flag (and it's variants) was used by the Nazis. If it didn't, the German Empire has it's own dark history of colonialism in Africa and it being the first nation in WWI to use chemical weapons, probably some other stuff I'm missing.
In any case, I’ve seen plenty of Neo-Nazis use the Imperial Flag (or other imperial symbols) as a stand-in for overtly fascistic symbols.
by Bienenhalde » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:53 pm
by Mathuvan Union » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:56 pm
Neuer Deutsches Reich wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:In any case, I’ve seen plenty of Neo-Nazis use the Imperial Flag (or other imperial symbols) as a stand-in for overtly fascistic symbols.
Does that mean everything they try to use even tho it is not fascist or Nazist should be banned? Banning the Imperial German Flag will just mean they switch over to another flag that would also need to be banned and so on
by Beryti » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:57 pm
by The Reformed American Republic » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:57 pm
by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:58 pm
Neuer Deutsches Reich wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:In any case, I’ve seen plenty of Neo-Nazis use the Imperial Flag (or other imperial symbols) as a stand-in for overtly fascistic symbols.
Does that mean everything they try to use even tho it is not fascist or Nazist should be banned? Banning the Imperial German Flag will just mean they switch over to another flag that would also need to be banned and so on
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by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:00 pm
Cop Met wrote:Very, very stupid. So not at all surprising coming from the left.
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by Wubdich » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:00 pm
Mathuvan Union wrote:Neuer Deutsches Reich wrote:Does that mean everything they try to use even tho it is not fascist or Nazist should be banned? Banning the Imperial German Flag will just mean they switch over to another flag that would also need to be banned and so on
The iron cross symbol should be banned; but not the overall flag.
Because it’s only really the iron cross I see as neo-nazi
by Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:01 pm
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by Nationalist Northumbria » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:04 pm
by Middle Barael » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:07 pm
by Neuer Deutsches Reich » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:07 pm
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:kinda looks racist at first glance, but i think that's just because i've see racists use it
i'm all for it. i'm not german, but if the flag isn't officially used for anything and is a racist symbol, it just makes sense to prevent its use, like the confederate flag.
by Nejii » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:08 pm
by Punished UMN » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:09 pm
Mathuvan Union wrote:Neuer Deutsches Reich wrote:Does that mean everything they try to use even tho it is not fascist or Nazist should be banned? Banning the Imperial German Flag will just mean they switch over to another flag that would also need to be banned and so on
The iron cross symbol should be banned; but not the overall flag.
Because it’s only really the iron cross I see as neo-nazi
by The Huskar Social Union » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:10 pm
Punished UMN wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:The iron cross symbol should be banned; but not the overall flag.
Because it’s only really the iron cross I see as neo-nazi
The Iron Cross is literally the symbol of the modern German armed forces.
I would say ban its use at political events, but not to outlaw it totally. Its political use in the modern day has a connotation, but that doesn't mean that we should allow Neo-fascists to take any symbol they like and appropriate it for their own use.
by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:12 pm
Nejii wrote:This is getting ridiculous. I strive to maintain a centrist perspective on things but this historical suppression campaign by the radical left has gotten out of hand. People need to stop being such snowflakes...
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by Nejii » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:30 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Nejii wrote:This is getting ridiculous. I strive to maintain a centrist perspective on things but this historical suppression campaign by the radical left has gotten out of hand. People need to stop being such snowflakes...
Radical leftist here. Please stop blaming the actions of butthurt liberals on us, or we will throw you in gulag.
by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:35 pm
Nejii wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Radical leftist here. Please stop blaming the actions of butthurt liberals on us, or we will throw you in gulag.
Just try it.
*locks and loads*
(Disclaimer: I am not a member of the NRA nor am I a part of the “MURICA!” element. But I do own a firearm and fully support the 2nd Amendment.)
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by Pilipinas and Malaya » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:35 pm
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:kinda looks racist at first glance, but i think that's just because i've see racists use it
i'm all for it. i'm not german, but if the flag isn't officially used for anything and is a racist symbol, it just makes sense to prevent its use, like the confederate flag.
by Tekania » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:38 pm
Neuer Deutsches Reich wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:In any case, I’ve seen plenty of Neo-Nazis use the Imperial Flag (or other imperial symbols) as a stand-in for overtly fascistic symbols.
Does that mean everything they try to use even tho it is not fascist or Nazist should be banned? Banning the Imperial German Flag will just mean they switch over to another flag that would also need to be banned and so on
by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:41 pm
Tekania wrote:Neuer Deutsches Reich wrote:Does that mean everything they try to use even tho it is not fascist or Nazist should be banned? Banning the Imperial German Flag will just mean they switch over to another flag that would also need to be banned and so on
I agree.
Indeed banning symbols is a problem. All it does is make the group choose a different symbol. Thus then the thing comes to well ,we have to ban that now.... all banning this will do is make them adopt some other symbol.
Banning symbols doesn't actually do anything.
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