CDA 230 - possibly the end of NS?
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:43 pm
This was going to happen eventually. Our politics has opened the way for malicious people to manipulate US law over time, and now the people in power have the opportunity to strip away even more of our meager internet privileges.
The DOJ has proposed revisions to CDA 230 recently. For elaboration:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice- ... 230-reform
https://www.wired.com/story/fight-over- ... e-know-it/
I'm going to be straightforward and issue a disclaimer this is going to be a biased post against any revisions/revocation. Call me pro-cda230. That's because while the idea of revising 230 is bi-partisan, though the semantics differ by party, it's bad for everyone. Nobody benefits except politicians, maybe because they can censor negative content.
CDA230 is what allows you to post content on the web, on social media, and platforms like nationstates, without the publishers being held liable for what's posted. Likewise, it allows websites like nationstates to moderate content without being sued for censoring people's opinions.
With the current (proposed) revisions by the DOJ, anybody that posts content on the web that's not "politically neutral" can be held liable for it and sued in US courts. Any "platform" like nationstates can be sued if they ever try to moderate content on their platform that's not in "good faith".
It's no exaggeration to say that NS would not survive this. There'd be to much risk to Max being sued for EVERYTHING he owns the moment a volunteer mod does something that could be construed "in bad faith" ( the term of "bad faith" is vague as fuck) or somebody posts something offensive. Either that or Max chooses to let NS go the way of 8chan, with any posts possibly containing every slur imaginable, with swastikas and sick fringe porn galore. Basically, they'd have to shut down the site or allow all the spam. There'd be no inbetween without walking a tight-rope.
It'll be the same situation for every website and every internet user that makes content (i.e. that includes writing anything on social media, chatrooms, or just any website). Nobody will be protected anymore by anonymity. Nobody.
For a more articulate, friendly explanation for what the fuck is going on, here's a helpful youtube video from a channel called extra credits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UNJ9XfPrWI
Discuss the recent CDA 230 stuff. Usually there's an opinion here, but it's kind of obvious to discern what my opinion is already.
The DOJ has proposed revisions to CDA 230 recently. For elaboration:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice- ... 230-reform
https://www.wired.com/story/fight-over- ... e-know-it/
I'm going to be straightforward and issue a disclaimer this is going to be a biased post against any revisions/revocation. Call me pro-cda230. That's because while the idea of revising 230 is bi-partisan, though the semantics differ by party, it's bad for everyone. Nobody benefits except politicians, maybe because they can censor negative content.
CDA230 is what allows you to post content on the web, on social media, and platforms like nationstates, without the publishers being held liable for what's posted. Likewise, it allows websites like nationstates to moderate content without being sued for censoring people's opinions.
With the current (proposed) revisions by the DOJ, anybody that posts content on the web that's not "politically neutral" can be held liable for it and sued in US courts. Any "platform" like nationstates can be sued if they ever try to moderate content on their platform that's not in "good faith".
It's no exaggeration to say that NS would not survive this. There'd be to much risk to Max being sued for EVERYTHING he owns the moment a volunteer mod does something that could be construed "in bad faith" ( the term of "bad faith" is vague as fuck) or somebody posts something offensive. Either that or Max chooses to let NS go the way of 8chan, with any posts possibly containing every slur imaginable, with swastikas and sick fringe porn galore. Basically, they'd have to shut down the site or allow all the spam. There'd be no inbetween without walking a tight-rope.
It'll be the same situation for every website and every internet user that makes content (i.e. that includes writing anything on social media, chatrooms, or just any website). Nobody will be protected anymore by anonymity. Nobody.
For a more articulate, friendly explanation for what the fuck is going on, here's a helpful youtube video from a channel called extra credits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UNJ9XfPrWI
Discuss the recent CDA 230 stuff. Usually there's an opinion here, but it's kind of obvious to discern what my opinion is already.
Parxland wrote:Bombadil wrote:
I thought the servers were in Switzerland along with all his Nazi gold..
Nope, there has to be some infrastructure in the US to support the majority of people that visit this website. Can you imagine how hard it would be to connect and how high the pings would be if people had to connect to Switzerland from the United States? Pings of at least 130, which would time out pages all the time for anybody with less than stellar US/DS.
Parxland wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:Eh? Max is an Australian. I think the web server runs in Canada?
The only people who could be hurt by this are the americans who partake of the site.
I forgot to mention since it's important, but NS has servers in america. Therefore, the content of this website falls under US law. Now, if Max removed any server in US territory then you'd be right. He might have to restrict access from anybody in the US too.
Oh also NS falls under US law because americans use this website. So even if there were to be no servers in the US, NS would still be liable for shit, because america.