Are cheesecakes cake?

[Infected Mushroom]

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cheesecake?s=t

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cheesecake[ cheez-keyk ]SHOW IPA
noun
Also cheese cake . a cake having a firm custardlike texture, made with cream cheese, cottage cheese, or both, and sometimes topped with a jamlike fruit mixture.

The dictionary has taken a side.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

A cake is a medium or large baked sweet good that is capable of maintaining its own shape, is neither brittle nor fully encased, and has an appreciable vertical component. It is also not bread.

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Sweet breads are bread so they fail the exclusion test.

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So, bread has to be raised with yeast?

If a baked good is (a) sweet, (b) raised with bicarb and (c) has an "appreciable" vertical component ... is it a cake only because there's nothing else it could be?

"Fully encased" makes no sense to me.

[The New California Republic]

What about yellowcake?

[Ethel mermania]

Why wouldn't cheesecake be a cake?

[Forsher]

A cake is a medium or large baked sweet good that is capable of maintaining its own shape, is neither brittle nor fully encased, and has an appreciable vertical component. It is also not bread.

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Sweet breads are bread so they fail the exclusion test.

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So, bread has to be raised with yeast?

The definition of bread isn't important. So, um, I don't know.

However, since breads can be flat, I don't think the exclusion rule is actually necessary.

If a baked good is (a) sweet, (b) raised with bicarb and (c) has an "appreciable" vertical component ... is it a cake only because there's nothing else it could be?

I mean... that's kind of how the term cake is used? And that was sort of the point of the "common sense" definition.

"Fully encased" makes no sense to me.

Imagine, for example, a chocolate cake in a pastry shell. That's not a cake. That's a pie with a chocolate cake filling. God knows why, but that's what it'd be. (For clarity... a pie should give the illusion that it's two separate things, i.e. the "case" and the filling).

[Infected Mushroom]

I believe in the power of the dictionary in settling this debate, that's just me =)

[Alvecia]

I consider most round desSerts to be cakes

[The New California Republic]

I consider most round deserts to be cakes

...are there any round deserts? The Gobi and Sahara aren't.

[Alvecia]

I consider most round deserts to be cakes

...are there any round deserts? The Gobi and Sahara aren't.

D:

[Atheris]

Depends on the cheesecake. If it's a normal cheesecake with crust on the bottom, it's a type of toast. If it's actually layered, it's a cake.

[Sanghyeok]

I believe in the power of the dictionary in settling this debate, that's just me =)

That's fair enough

[Sanghyeok]

So far, the poll results show that:

Nearly 56% think cupcakes are a cake
Nearly 58% think cheesecake (American-style) is a cake
60% think cheesecake (Japanese-style) is a cake
Nearly 56% think ice cream cake is a cake

[Alternamerica]

Apparently, cookies are a cake

[The New California Republic]

So far, the poll results show that:

Nearly 56% think cupcakes are a cake
Nearly 58% think cheesecake (American-style) is a cake
60% think cheesecake (Japanese-style) is a cake
Nearly 56% think ice cream cake is a cake

Given that you can select all options—like I did—the results are essentially meaningless.

[The Blaatschapen]

The more important question here is, how much cheese does cheesecake have?

[The Blaatschapen]

Apparently, cookies are a cake

Oreos are a sandwich.

[Minskiev]

Apparently, cookies are a cake

Oreos are a sandwich.

Thank you. But are hotdogs?

[Alternamerica]

Oreos are a sandwich.

Thank you. But are hotdogs?

Yes.

[Sanghyeok]

Thank you. But are hotdogs?

Yes.

No! A sandwich has two non-connected pieces of bread!

[Katganistan]

If you invite people over for coffee and cake and serve cheesecake, literally no one is protesting that it is not a cake.

[Sanghyeok]

If you invite people over for coffee and cake and serve cheesecake, literally no one is protesting that it is not a cake.

I would protest that there is coffee being served and not tea, but I get your point.

[Sanghyeok]

So far, the poll results show that:

Nearly 56% think cupcakes are a cake
Nearly 58% think cheesecake (American-style) is a cake
60% think cheesecake (Japanese-style) is a cake
Nearly 56% think ice cream cake is a cake

Given that you can select all options—like I did—the results are essentially meaningless.

I assume everyone claimed "cake is a cake". I then took the percentage of people from each other category and divided by people who said "cake is cake".

[The Sands Casino]

Sorry for throwing this in, but how about oatcakes?

And for those who suggest cheesecake is a pudding, what about Yorkshire pudding and black pudding?

[The New California Republic]

Sorry for throwing this in, but how about oatcakes?

And for those who suggest cheesecake is a pudding, what about Yorkshire pudding and black pudding?

A better question would be whether or not the following are cakes:

Crabcake.

Fishcake.

Potato cake.

[Sanghyeok]

Sorry for throwing this in, but how about oatcakes?

And for those who suggest cheesecake is a pudding, what about Yorkshire pudding and black pudding?

A better question would be whether or not the following are cakes:

Crabcake.

Fishcake.

Potato cake.

No, cakes are sweet