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Postby Mordka » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:08 pm

I think that there should be a military government in Thailand that would suppress the protests.

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Postby Diahon » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:09 pm

Mordka wrote:I think that there should be a military government in Thailand that would suppress the protests.


no

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Postby Mordka » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:12 pm

Diahon wrote:
Mordka wrote:I think that there should be a military government in Thailand that would suppress the protests.


no

why not it is dissent, it should be dealt with.

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Postby Diahon » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:17 pm

Senkaku wrote:I just want to know why a 67 year old heterosexual man is wearing a fucking crop top in autumn in Bavaria, and also why the ostensible head of state and semi-divine monarch of an ancient and proud kingdom has tattoo sleeves and an overgrown tramp stamp


he didn't give a shit and doesn't give a shit

his father and every politically aware thai knew the guy was unfit from the word go, but there was no avoiding his sitting upon the throne

he really should've abdicated when the going was good, or else handed over the throne to one of his siblings

now he can stay in that hotel forever

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Postby Heloin » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:23 pm

Mordka wrote:I think that there should be a military government in Thailand that would suppress the protests.

Ah yes, the classic tactic of the totalitarian, make everything worse for everyone and expect that will to get better. By fucking magic I can only guess.

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Postby Mordka » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:32 pm

Heloin wrote:
Mordka wrote:I think that there should be a military government in Thailand that would suppress the protests.

Ah yes, the classic tactic of the totalitarian, make everything worse for everyone and expect that will to get better. By fucking magic I can only guess.

the only way to suppress dissent is for the army to get involved, to let them get their way would show weakness, I don't care if they get rid of the monarchy or not, the military needs to step in and take over.

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Postby Heloin » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:36 pm

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Heloin wrote:Ah yes, the classic tactic of the totalitarian, make everything worse for everyone and expect that will to get better. By fucking magic I can only guess.

the only way to suppress dissent is for the army to get involved, to let them get their way would show weakness, I don't care if they get rid of the monarchy or not, the military needs to step in and take over.

Sure thing buddy. Maybe you don't see the hypocrisy of calling for an army from a country you know nothing about to slaughter innocent people you don't care about, then again most people never do.

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Postby Mordka » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:46 pm

Heloin wrote:
Mordka wrote:the only way to suppress dissent is for the army to get involved, to let them get their way would show weakness, I don't care if they get rid of the monarchy or not, the military needs to step in and take over.

Sure thing buddy. Maybe you don't see the hypocrisy of calling for an army from a country you know nothing about to slaughter innocent people you don't care about, then again most people never do.

There is a saying if you want steak, you need to kill a cow, people will die but it would be for the common good of suppressing democracy.

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Postby Rusozak » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:47 pm

Mordka wrote:
Heloin wrote:Sure thing buddy. Maybe you don't see the hypocrisy of calling for an army from a country you know nothing about to slaughter innocent people you don't care about, then again most people never do.

There is a saying if you want steak, you need to kill a cow, people will die but it would be for the common good of suppressing democracy.


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Postby Heloin » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:48 pm

Mordka wrote:
Heloin wrote:Sure thing buddy. Maybe you don't see the hypocrisy of calling for an army from a country you know nothing about to slaughter innocent people you don't care about, then again most people never do.

There is a saying if you want steak, you need to kill a cow, people will die but it would be for the common good of suppressing democracy.

How brave of you to sacrifice other people so willingly.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:50 pm

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Mordka wrote:There is a saying if you want steak, you need to kill a cow, people will die but it would be for the common good of suppressing democracy.

How brave of you to sacrifice other people so willingly.

That is the conceit of the totalitarian, they will never be the ones making the sacrifice for "the common good."
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Postby Mordka » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:59 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Heloin wrote:How brave of you to sacrifice other people so willingly.

That is the conceit of the totalitarian, they will never be the ones making the sacrifice for "the common good."
Heloin wrote:
Mordka wrote:There is a saying if you want steak, you need to kill a cow, people will die but it would be for the common good of suppressing democracy.

How brave of you to sacrifice other people so willingly.

there is nothing wrong with a totalitarian military dictatorship, dissenters would be killed yes but it is worth it.

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Postby Kowani » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:04 pm

Mordka wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That is the conceit of the totalitarian, they will never be the ones making the sacrifice for "the common good."
Heloin wrote:How brave of you to sacrifice other people so willingly.

there is nothing wrong with a totalitarian military dictatorship, dissenters would be killed yes but it is worth it.

Odd. I don’t hear any arguments about how it would benefit anyone.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:06 pm

Mordka wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That is the conceit of the totalitarian, they will never be the ones making the sacrifice for "the common good."
Heloin wrote:How brave of you to sacrifice other people so willingly.

there is nothing wrong with a totalitarian military dictatorship, dissenters would be killed yes but it is worth it.

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Postby Nogodia » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:07 pm

Mordka wrote:
Heloin wrote:Sure thing buddy. Maybe you don't see the hypocrisy of calling for an army from a country you know nothing about to slaughter innocent people you don't care about, then again most people never do.

There is a saying if you want steak, you need to kill a cow, people will die but it would be for the common good of suppressing democracy.

You speak as though you wouldn't be one of the first lined up against on the wall should a tyrannical government come to power.

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Postby Mordka » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:09 pm

Kowani wrote:
Mordka wrote:there is nothing wrong with a totalitarian military dictatorship, dissenters would be killed yes but it is worth it.

Odd. I don’t hear any arguments about how it would benefit anyone.

It would be more stable if under martial law, with regular executions and national curfew.

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Postby Heloin » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:10 pm

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Kowani wrote:Odd. I don’t hear any arguments about how it would benefit anyone.

It would be more stable if under martial law, with regular executions and national curfew.

All of which generally lowers stability.

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Postby Kowani » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:10 pm

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Kowani wrote:Odd. I don’t hear any arguments about how it would benefit anyone.

It would be more stable if under martial law, with regular executions and national curfew.

Only if you’re Ignoring the fact that stability is of no inherent value, and ignoring that military dictatorships don’t bring stability, because otherwise that’s not true at all
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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:11 pm

Mordka wrote:
Kowani wrote:Odd. I don’t hear any arguments about how it would benefit anyone.

It would be more stable if under martial law, with regular executions and national curfew.

A quick glance at a Wikipedia page on military dictatorships reveals that juntas generally aren't very stable, and are usually out of power in a decade or so.

Unless you're proposing that the Thai's submit themselves to the Tokugawa Bakufu... but somehow I don't see that being hugely popular in Thailand either...
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Postby Mordka » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:15 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Mordka wrote:It would be more stable if under martial law, with regular executions and national curfew.

A quick glance at a Wikipedia page on military dictatorships reveals that juntas generally aren't very stable, and are usually out of power in a decade or so.

Unless you're proposing that the Thai's submit themselves to the Tokugawa Bakufu... but somehow I don't see that being hugely popular in Thailand either...

Unless there is are good figurehead.

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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:18 pm

Mordka wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:A quick glance at a Wikipedia page on military dictatorships reveals that juntas generally aren't very stable, and are usually out of power in a decade or so.

Unless you're proposing that the Thai's submit themselves to the Tokugawa Bakufu... but somehow I don't see that being hugely popular in Thailand either...

Unless there is are good figurehead.

What, you mean like basically every Junta ever?

Because they always have a figurehead, and they still fail.
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Postby The Novakian Empire » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:23 pm

The King should abdicate or be deposed. His incompetence, lack of spine, and moral bankruptcy are proving to be the ruination of not only the Thai Monarchy, but Thailand itself, as he allows the country to be dominated by a military government while he embezzles billions of dollars of public money so he can indulge in his own personal fantasies, while not paying any attention to the well-being of his people.
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Postby Badjuristan » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:26 pm

Never ever have i heard People wanting a monarchy back.
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Postby The Novakian Empire » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:30 pm

Badjuristan wrote:Never ever have i heard People wanting a monarchy back.

Then I suppose you haven't looked very hard at all. There's restorationist movements across Europe, including quite viable ones in Romania, Georgia, perhaps Bulgaria, and others.
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Postby Mordka » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:30 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Mordka wrote:Unless there is are good figurehead.

What, you mean like basically every Junta ever?

Because they always have a figurehead, and they still fail.

not all of them if there is no foreign intervention.

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