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by The Lone Alliance » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:39 pm
by Cisairse » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:41 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Cisairse wrote:In the sense of its definition. Social intersectionality attempts to defend the interest of those facing social oppression in alliance with those who are facing other types of oppression, or not, in order to advance the interest of those being oppressed socially. Social justice is in fact the only goal.
Cool, but how do we decide who faces social oppression, or far more importantly, how we remedy oppression. I'm all for advancing the interest of the socially oppressed, but at what cost?
That is what worries me. The left currently has a reputation as violent, racebaiting haters. I would hope our theories would disprove that conception, rather than cast even the slightest hint of legitimacy.
by Nazeroth » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:42 pm
by Cisairse » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:42 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Ricksolot wrote:Honestly the United States of America is the least oppressive country in the world. I think identity politics is just a tool for planting the seeds of hatred and contention. By their fruit you will recognize them. Just take a look at what people do versus what they say. BLM is just a Marxist organization bent on brainwashing colored people. And antifa is a terrorist group. Additionally Marx was a racist himself soooooo. Not to mention that no communist or socialist government has ever existed without the mass execution of millions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7C6tNjiRKY
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboo ... ist-164792
I personally don't care that Marx was racist. Especially considering he lived at a time when slavery was still a thing for much of his life. Who wasn't at least somewhat racist then? Nobody is perfect.
Also, LOLing at the hilariously stupid take that BLM or Antifa are Marxist.
Also also, nice "Communism killed 10 quintillion people" there. It's almost as stupid as the "What about Venezuela?!?!?!?"
by Nazeroth » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:43 pm
Cisairse wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I personally don't care that Marx was racist. Especially considering he lived at a time when slavery was still a thing for much of his life. Who wasn't at least somewhat racist then? Nobody is perfect.
Also, LOLing at the hilariously stupid take that BLM or Antifa are Marxist.
Also also, nice "Communism killed 10 quintillion people" there. It's almost as stupid as the "What about Venezuela?!?!?!?"
It's worth noting that while Marx was somewhat racist and commonly used racist slurs in his personal life, he was a staunch abolitionist and repeatedly wrote letters to Pres. A. Lincoln demanding that he free the American slaves. He was absolutely a progressive in his age.
by Alternamerica » Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:20 am
Nazeroth wrote:Cisairse wrote:It's worth noting that while Marx was somewhat racist and commonly used racist slurs in his personal life, he was a staunch abolitionist and repeatedly wrote letters to Pres. A. Lincoln demanding that he free the American slaves. He was absolutely a progressive in his age.
That can be said about TONS of people today, guess what there reward is? Cancel Culture
by Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:34 am
Nazeroth wrote:all white people should go back to europe
all blacks to africa etc etc
and all american lands returned to the natives, low population or not.
by Ricksolot » Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:26 pm
Cisairse wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I personally don't care that Marx was racist. Especially considering he lived at a time when slavery was still a thing for much of his life. Who wasn't at least somewhat racist then? Nobody is perfect.
Also, LOLing at the hilariously stupid take that BLM or Antifa are Marxist.
Also also, nice "Communism killed 10 quintillion people" there. It's almost as stupid as the "What about Venezuela?!?!?!?"
It's worth noting that while Marx was somewhat racist and commonly used racist slurs in his personal life, he was a staunch abolitionist and repeatedly wrote letters to Pres. A. Lincoln demanding that he free the American slaves. He was absolutely a progressive in his age.
by Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:45 pm
Ricksolot wrote:It's a matter of surviving.
by Ricksolot » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:38 pm
by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:32 pm
Cisairse wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Cool, but how do we decide who faces social oppression, or far more importantly, how we remedy oppression. I'm all for advancing the interest of the socially oppressed, but at what cost?
That is what worries me. The left currently has a reputation as violent, racebaiting haters. I would hope our theories would disprove that conception, rather than cast even the slightest hint of legitimacy.
As with most things, these topics deserve specific and just treatment, and not to be disrespected by proscribing one-size-fits-all solutions.
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by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:33 pm
Nazeroth wrote:Cisairse wrote:It's worth noting that while Marx was somewhat racist and commonly used racist slurs in his personal life, he was a staunch abolitionist and repeatedly wrote letters to Pres. A. Lincoln demanding that he free the American slaves. He was absolutely a progressive in his age.
That can be said about TONS of people today, guess what there reward is? Cancel Culture
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by Cisairse » Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:42 am
Nazeroth wrote:Cisairse wrote:It's worth noting that while Marx was somewhat racist and commonly used racist slurs in his personal life, he was a staunch abolitionist and repeatedly wrote letters to Pres. A. Lincoln demanding that he free the American slaves. He was absolutely a progressive in his age.
That can be said about TONS of people today, guess what there reward is? Cancel Culture
by Cisairse » Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:43 am
Ricksolot wrote:If your old enough then I recommend legally acquiring a firearm for self defense. I also recommend acquiring the skills to use your firearm effectively.
Stay Safe
by Major-Tom » Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:43 am
Nazeroth wrote:Cisairse wrote:It's worth noting that while Marx was somewhat racist and commonly used racist slurs in his personal life, he was a staunch abolitionist and repeatedly wrote letters to Pres. A. Lincoln demanding that he free the American slaves. He was absolutely a progressive in his age.
That can be said about TONS of people today, guess what there reward is? Cancel Culture
by Cisairse » Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:44 am
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Cisairse wrote:As with most things, these topics deserve specific and just treatment, and not to be disrespected by proscribing one-size-fits-all solutions.
To be honest, that’s a bit of a disappointing answer. It comes off more as a dismissal. Not saying it is, but it reads to me “don’t worry about it”.
by West Leas Oros 2 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:29 pm
Bassoe wrote:A secular repackagment of Original Sin, sans the possibility of forgiveness.
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by West Leas Oros 2 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:35 pm
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by Bassoe » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:48 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Bassoe wrote:A secular repackagment of Original Sin, sans the possibility of forgiveness.
Not that I'm questioning your statement, but what is your reasoning for saying so. Intersectionality, in and of itself at least, isn't quite so vengeful. It's just often paired with vengeance.
by Cordel One » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:02 pm
by Imperialisium » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:07 pm
Alternamerica wrote:Nazeroth wrote:
That can be said about TONS of people today, guess what there reward is? Cancel Culture
Isn't Cancel Culture the new "Friend Zone" but instead it's political? You're just choosing to ignore someone or something because you don't like them. People do that all the time before "Cancel Culture" was a thing
by West Leas Oros 2 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:31 am
Imperialisium wrote:Alternamerica wrote:
Isn't Cancel Culture the new "Friend Zone" but instead it's political? You're just choosing to ignore someone or something because you don't like them. People do that all the time before "Cancel Culture" was a thing
Not quite.
Cancel Culture is basically the Left (used generically) deliberately wishing to brand someone as a evil, terrible, unethical, amoral, and quite frankly ‘bad’ person in need of their lives destroyed unless they prostrate themselves before the Left in apology. Generally fo holding anything as a contrary view or what breaches mainstream left doctrine.
Basically a weird modern concept of the 17th century Witch Hunt that you'd find in the pages of The Crucible.
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