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by San Lumen » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:41 pm

by Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:41 pm
San Lumen wrote:Bombadil wrote:
The issue is postal votes come in post-election, and they're majority Democrat - so end of day November 4th Trump will likely be ahead, and he'll claim victory and try everything possible to delegitimise any votes counted after the 4th.. and frankly I've become too used to Trump getting away with everything to feel confident he won't find a way, with full Republican support, to stay.
Hence why nominating an SC judge is so important to them given Trump has said this will go to the SC.
And what if he’s not? What happens then? If polls stay as they are it’s highly possible Biden is ahead.

by Washington Resistance Army » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:42 pm
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:San Lumen wrote:And what if he’s not? What happens then? If polls stay as they are it’s highly possible Biden is ahead.
About the only way grand cheating can be avoided is if Biden wins hugely. Like Texas hugely, a 400 elector win. Then there's no point disputing individual states.
As to the Supreme Court though, I think it won't be done by election day. What exactly happens if the court splits 4/4 on who won the tipping point state I can't even imagine.
Republicans will get that seat on the Supreme Court this year. But I think it will be in the lame-duck period. Raising another possibility: they might hold back on appealing the election result until they have the court.

by Major-Tom » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:50 pm
Bombadil wrote:
Count your blessings you don't live in HK where they used the pandemic to delay the election for a year rather than face crushing defeat, while unironically organising mass testing the week after.. so clearly having people stand in line for something is feasible..
We should protest..
Ah shit..

by Kexholm Karelia » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:50 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
About the only way grand cheating can be avoided is if Biden wins hugely. Like Texas hugely, a 400 elector win. Then there's no point disputing individual states.
As to the Supreme Court though, I think it won't be done by election day. What exactly happens if the court splits 4/4 on who won the tipping point state I can't even imagine.
Republicans will get that seat on the Supreme Court this year. But I think it will be in the lame-duck period. Raising another possibility: they might hold back on appealing the election result until they have the court.
Why would you think they're gonna wait to make the nomination? McConnell has confirmed they're holding the vote ASAP after Trump makes the nomination, which he's going to do Saturday.

by Geneviev » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:50 pm
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Why would you think they're gonna wait to make the nomination? McConnell has confirmed they're holding the vote ASAP after Trump makes the nomination, which he's going to do Saturday.
Good, a conservative supreme court is important to stopping the far left

by Kexholm Karelia » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:51 pm
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Kexholm Karelia wrote:IDK people were accusing me of hacking into other nations or something
Your nation was deleted for posting past ban.
Personally I've noticed you're often posting at the same time (in the same threads) as Aureumterra. Would you like me to check for other similarities?"Kexholm and Karelia" and "Aureumterra" were both your nations. Don't lie to us, and don't waste our time. Both accounts were correctly deleted for posting past ban. --Sedgistan, Senior Issues Moderator
I'd just leave it there if I were you.

by Major-Tom » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:51 pm
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Your nation was deleted for posting past ban.
Personally I've noticed you're often posting at the same time (in the same threads) as Aureumterra. Would you like me to check for other similarities?"Kexholm and Karelia" and "Aureumterra" were both your nations. Don't lie to us, and don't waste our time. Both accounts were correctly deleted for posting past ban. --Sedgistan, Senior Issues Moderator
I'd just leave it there if I were you.
I don’t know a thing about computer science, it would be impossible for me to hack into Aureumterra lol

by The Exarchate of the West » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:57 pm
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Good, a conservative supreme court is important to stopping the far left
by Bombadil » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:58 pm

by Liriena » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:00 pm
Aureumterra III wrote:Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Compared to the party of:
•Mexico isn't sending its best people.
•Joe Biden is gonna move Africans into Minnesota and thats a bad thing
•Arab Americans cheered on 9/11 and we'll repeat that filthy and disgraceful lie without proof forever
•*teargas sounds and yelling in Lafayette Square*
Yeah, actually.
The republicans have gone that far right.
How do you define "right?"
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by Liriena » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:02 pm
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Kexholm Karelia wrote:IDK people were accusing me of hacking into other nations or something
Your nation was deleted for posting past ban.
Personally I've noticed you're often posting at the same time (in the same threads) as Aureumterra. Would you like me to check for other similarities?"Kexholm and Karelia" and "Aureumterra" were both your nations. Don't lie to us, and don't waste our time. Both accounts were correctly deleted for posting past ban. --Sedgistan, Senior Issues Moderator
I'd just leave it there if I were you.
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by Liriena » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:06 pm
Bombadil wrote:538.com have done a lengthy article on what and how happens where Trump simply doesn't leave.. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... ont-leave/
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by Bombadil » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:14 pm
Liriena wrote:Bombadil wrote:538.com have done a lengthy article on what and how happens where Trump simply doesn't leave.. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... ont-leave/
The #1 conclusion I've drawn from reading this so far is that the electoral college is a disgusting, convoluted liability.

by Liriena » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:17 pm
Bombadil wrote:Liriena wrote:The #1 conclusion I've drawn from reading this so far is that the electoral college is a disgusting, convoluted liability.
Basically, there's simply no guarantee that electors voted for are the electors who end up in the electoral college - a Republican controlled state senate can simply put forward a different set.
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by Major-Tom » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:18 pm
Liriena wrote:Bombadil wrote:
Basically, there's simply no guarantee that electors voted for are the electors who end up in the electoral college - a Republican controlled state senate can simply put forward a different set.
But you can't elect presidents through popular vote, of course. That would be mob rule and that's somehow worse than whatever the hell this is.

by Aureumterra III » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:21 pm
Liriena wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Your nation was deleted for posting past ban.
Personally I've noticed you're often posting at the same time (in the same threads) as Aureumterra. Would you like me to check for other similarities?"Kexholm and Karelia" and "Aureumterra" were both your nations. Don't lie to us, and don't waste our time. Both accounts were correctly deleted for posting past ban. --Sedgistan, Senior Issues Moderator
I'd just leave it there if I were you.
A one-man conservative astroturfing effort.

by Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:24 pm

by Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:29 pm
Aureumterra III wrote:Back on the topic, quite a few Republicans supporters have threatened to not vote if the Senate doesn’t get through a nominee, so I’ve heard

by Liriena » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:32 pm
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Aureumterra III wrote:Back on the topic, quite a few Republicans supporters have threatened to not vote if the Senate doesn’t get through a nominee, so I’ve heard
That moment your voters don't trust you to do the viciously partisan, cynical thing ... did Mitch get photographed playing with a puppy or something?
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by Major-Tom » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:33 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Major-Tom wrote:
THE MOB is unironically my new favorite term to come out of 2020, it's so patently ridiculous and stupid, I love it.
Whenever someone mentions "the mob," i just remember this scene right here: https://youtu.be/SkKdfh8Int4

by Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:34 pm
Liriena wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
That moment your voters don't trust you to do the viciously partisan, cynical thing ... did Mitch get photographed playing with a puppy or something?
At the very least it proves that Republican politicians do represent their voters: power hungry, morally bankrupt, etc.

by Liriena » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:34 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Liriena wrote:At the very least it proves that Republican politicians do represent their voters: power hungry, morally bankrupt, etc.
Why do they even fly the flag anymore? People like Mitch McConnell and of course the president are more than willing to harm the United States if it accomplishes their selfish goals.
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by San Lumen » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:43 pm
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:San Lumen wrote:And what if he’s not? What happens then? If polls stay as they are it’s highly possible Biden is ahead.
About the only way grand cheating can be avoided is if Biden wins hugely. Like Texas hugely, a 400 elector win. Then there's no point disputing individual states.
As to the Supreme Court though, I think it won't be done by election day. What exactly happens if the court splits 4/4 on who won the tipping point state I can't even imagine.
Republicans will get that seat on the Supreme Court this year. But I think it will be in the lame-duck period. Raising another possibility: they might hold back on appealing the election result until they have the court.

by Washington Resistance Army » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:45 pm
San Lumen wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
About the only way grand cheating can be avoided is if Biden wins hugely. Like Texas hugely, a 400 elector win. Then there's no point disputing individual states.
As to the Supreme Court though, I think it won't be done by election day. What exactly happens if the court splits 4/4 on who won the tipping point state I can't even imagine.
Republicans will get that seat on the Supreme Court this year. But I think it will be in the lame-duck period. Raising another possibility: they might hold back on appealing the election result until they have the court.
After the shitshow of 2000 and Bush V Gore mess can you imagine the unrest and civil disobedience if the court throws out millions of ballots? The Supreme Court will lose any and all legitimacy and the great experiment will finally come to an end. I dont think Roberts or Alito would go for someone thing like that.
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