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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
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No
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I Don't Know
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Too Early to Say
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:08 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Someone pay for my immigration to Canada if Trump wins, okay?


Fuck that. I'm swimming across the river to Canada whether they want me there or not.
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Someone pay for my immigration to Canada if Trump wins, okay?


We're NSGers, we all broke broke out here.

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Yup. If y'all need me the week after Nov. 3, I'll probably be on a week-long bender somewhere in the Mountains.

You mean until January 20th?


Why the fuck not aha.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
That's a huuuuuuuge stretch to take one of BLM's founders being a Marxist to claim the entire damn left is a bunch of commies.


How do you even become a "trained Marxist" - what?

Well first you have to go the secret marxist training camps in the hinterlands of Sweden, there you will take part in a three year all inclusive training course before taking a two year field course in central America or Western Africa.

If you want then you can go for specialist training on another two year course in Uzbekistan on the finer points of military coups and subverting gamers by making all their protagonists gay black women.
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Someone pay for my immigration to Canada if Trump wins, okay?


Fuck that. I'm swimming across the river to Canada whether they want me there or not.


I dunno mean, a Visa is cheaper than a hospital visit for hypothermia.

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:09 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Kowani wrote:Assuming he accepts the loss.

Again, he will be forced to. No one can deny numbers. That's the one thing that is safe.


Three million illegal voters.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:10 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Kowani wrote:Assuming he accepts the loss.

Again, he will be forced to. No one can deny numbers. That's the one thing that is safe.

But they can deny that the process of counting the numbers was unfair.

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Kowani wrote:Assuming he accepts the loss.


He doesn't get a choice in the matter - that's the best part! :p

He has the bully pulpit.
He kinda just needs his base to think it was rigged, and then all hell breaks loose.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:10 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
How do you even become a "trained Marxist" - what?

Well first you have to go the secret marxist training camps in the hinterlands of Sweden, there you will take part in a three year all inclusive training course before taking a two year field course in central America or Western Africa.

If you want then you can go for specialist training on another two year course in Uzbekistan on the finer points of military coups and subverting gamers by making all their protagonists gay black women.


As gamer, I'll have you know I enjoy dark-skinned lesbians.

Take that, filthy Marxists! :lol:
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Postby Geneviev » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:10 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Again, he will be forced to. No one can deny numbers. That's the one thing that is safe.


Three million illegal voters.

No one believed that. It's the beauty of numbers, numbers that don't agree with Trump.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:11 pm

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Kexholm Karelia wrote:Black Lives Matter, a movement that has gained immense popularity in recent months, has their co-founder declare herself a "trained Marxist"


Talk to BLM supporters, the vast majority are not Marxists. BLM isn't an organization, it's a movement birthed by LA community organizers that includes Cullors. But it's also an ideological big tent, I've seen college conservatives in BLM rallies, all the way to hardcore leftists.

It's not a group you can really ascribe an ideology to because it's not really a group, it's a position that you either support or do not.

Hell the other day I saw a Trump supporter waving a BLM flag
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Postby -Astoria- » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:11 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Someone pay for my immigration to Canada if Trump wins, okay?

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:11 pm

Kowani wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
He doesn't get a choice in the matter - that's the best part! :p

He has the bully pulpit.
He kinda just needs his base to think it was rigged, and then all hell breaks loose.


Most of them don't have the balls to do anything. The ones that do will end up getting their asses kicked by the National Guard.
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Postby Geneviev » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:12 pm

Kowani wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Again, he will be forced to. No one can deny numbers. That's the one thing that is safe.

But they can deny that the process of counting the numbers was unfair.

Fine, that might happen. But who would believe it?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:12 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well first you have to go the secret marxist training camps in the hinterlands of Sweden, there you will take part in a three year all inclusive training course before taking a two year field course in central America or Western Africa.

If you want then you can go for specialist training on another two year course in Uzbekistan on the finer points of military coups and subverting gamers by making all their protagonists gay black women.


As gamer, I'll have you know I enjoy dark-skinned lesbians.

Take that, filthy Marxists! :lol:

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Postby Kowani » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:13 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Kowani wrote:But they can deny that the process of counting the numbers was unfair.

Fine, that might happen. But who would believe it?

A substantial portion of his base.
So...call it 30% of the electorate.
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Postby Geneviev » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:14 pm

Kowani wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Fine, that might happen. But who would believe it?

A substantial portion of his base.
So...call it 30% of the electorate.

That seems a lot. I would say half of his base, at the very most. 21% is closer than 30%. And even then, not all of those 21% are guaranteed to allow Trump to stay in office.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:15 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Fuck that. I'm swimming across the river to Canada whether they want me there or not.


I dunno mean, a Visa is cheaper than a hospital visit for hypothermia.


You don't understand how close Canada is to me. I could be there like that, as long as Canadian Border Patrol doesn't get me first.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:15 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Talk to BLM supporters, the vast majority are not Marxists. BLM isn't an organization, it's a movement birthed by LA community organizers that includes Cullors. But it's also an ideological big tent, I've seen college conservatives in BLM rallies, all the way to hardcore leftists.

It's not a group you can really ascribe an ideology to because it's not really a group, it's a position that you either support or do not.

Hell the other day I saw a Trump supporter waving a BLM flag


They are soooooooooo confused. That's radical centrism right there.
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Postby Aureumterra III » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:15 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Someone pay for my immigration to Canada if Trump wins, okay?

This fearmongering again?
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Postby Geneviev » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:17 pm

Aureumterra III wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Someone pay for my immigration to Canada if Trump wins, okay?

This fearmongering again?

I hear that Canada is democratic. And I believe they also have moose. There's nothing wrong with Canada.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:19 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Hell the other day I saw a Trump supporter waving a BLM flag


They are soooooooooo confused. That's radical centrism right there.

So that's what all the protests mean! We just want to grill some buildings, for God's sake!
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:19 pm

Aureumterra III wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Someone pay for my immigration to Canada if Trump wins, okay?

This fearmongering again?


200,000 Americans dead from a virus the president did nothing to stop, who gives state secrets to the Russians while ignoring their bounties on our soldiers, who lets Turkish presidential bodyguards assault American protesters on American soil and get away with it, who said in his own words "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" as he ignores police murdering American citizens in cold blood, let's mercenaries hired by federal agencies abduct American citizens without cause off the streets at random, and is literally trying to sabotage the election is hardly "fearmongering".

You are living proof that the "Enlightened European" myth is just that: a myth.
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:20 pm

Aureumterra III wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Someone pay for my immigration to Canada if Trump wins, okay?

This fearmongering again?


Yeah man, a lot of us are scared in the US. Think about it from our perspective.

We see an article citing a truthful fact that the Trump team is considering trying to claim victory despite losing, which would make us, well undemocratic. We then read that though unlikely, there is a distinct legal possibility that it could work, threatening to tear the fabric of this country apart.

I would very much like not to be here if that were to happen, I do not wish to live in a country going through democratic backsliding and a country that already hates one another viscerally. I encourage and welcome you to visit the US for yourself if you think we're some sort of tranquil paradise where a broad group of leftists, liberals, centrists and even many conservatives "irrationally" fear for our future and think life may be better elsewhere were it to get worse.

It's not fear mongering, you have a truly bad habit of jumping in and claiming that legitimate fears and tensions in the US are little more than fear mongering, despite overwhelming evidence both objectively and anecdotally to the contrary, and despite the fact that you have the privilege to live in a country that doesn't see mass violence, mass tensions between citizens, and a government that only cares about enriching themselves.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:23 pm

Aureumterra III wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Someone pay for my immigration to Canada if Trump wins, okay?

This fearmongering again?


200,000 people died while trump continues to downplay the virus, stole medical supplies from states, nixed a plan to deliver masks to every household in America and encouraged the "liberation of Michigan." Im pretty sure nothing at this point is fear mongering when the graveyards are filling up with covid victims.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:24 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Aureumterra III wrote:This fearmongering again?


200,000 Americans dead from a virus the president did nothing to stop, who gives state secrets to the Russians while ignoring their bounties on our soldiers, who lets Turkish presidential bodyguards assault American protesters on American soil and get away with it, who said in his own words "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" as he ignores police murdering American citizens in cold blood, let's mercenaries hired by federal agencies abduct American citizens without cause off the streets at random, and is literally trying to sabotage the election is hardly "fearmongering".

You are living proof that the "Enlightened European" myth is just that: a myth.


Damn.
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:25 pm

Most people saying they will flee to Canada probably won’t just like 2016. If people actually start doing that, the Canadians have the right to enforce their borders and deport them
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