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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
27
16%
No
61
36%
I Don't Know
36
21%
Too Early to Say
44
26%
 
Total votes : 168

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:29 pm

Cordel One wrote:I'll admit I'm new to this voting, could an individual hypothetically write in a joke presidential candidate such as "Hugh Janus"? Assume write-ins are allowed.


Different states have their own rules.
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Postby Celritannia » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:20 pm

This is certainly an exciting election for sure.

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Postby Blargoblarg » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:30 pm

Re: the poll, I'm not sure anyone will "win" in debates between Biden and Trump. Both are senile and can barely string coherent sentences together. It'll be a national embarrassment watching those two debate each other.

It would be nice if the debates would include third party candidates instead of just the Democratic and Republican candidates. But I'm sure that won't happen anytime soon, sadly.
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Postby Celritannia » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:33 pm

Blargoblarg wrote:Re: the poll, I'm not sure anyone will "win" in debates between Biden and Trump. Both are senile and can barely string coherent sentences together. It'll be a national embarrassment watching those two debate each other.

It would be nice if the debates would include third party candidates instead of just the Democratic and Republican candidates. But I'm sure that won't happen anytime soon, sadly.


Or even let all the primary nominees from both parties battle it our in a mega-primary.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:44 pm

Blargoblarg wrote:Re: the poll, I'm not sure anyone will "win" in debates between Biden and Trump. Both are senile and can barely string coherent sentences together. It'll be a national embarrassment watching those two debate each other.


You're not going to watch it anyway, are you?
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New haven america wrote:McConnell's trying to get the gov. shutdown so that a Senate Recess SCotUS pick can happen, who will most likely choose Trump as the victor even if Biden is the clear and concise winner.

This is most likely because he knows the Reps don't have the numbers to vote in a new Justice immediately.


I'm sorry? By all accounts they already have the votes and are going to do it as soon as Trump picks. The only people who have said no are Murkowski and Collins, all the other vulnerable or moderate Republicans have either remained quiet or expressed support, which leaves them at 51 votes. Even if Romney jumps ship they still get a tie and they still win via Pence.

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Postby Picairn » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:03 am

Blargoblarg wrote:Re: the poll, I'm not sure anyone will "win" in debates between Biden and Trump. Both are senile and can barely string coherent sentences together. It'll be a national embarrassment watching those two debate each other.

Their style of senility is different, imo. Biden stutters and seems to be unable to form words from his thoughts, while Trump has the vocabulary of a ten-year-old.

Just a side story, but I remember last night watching on Twitter about Trump's response to Ginsburg's death on C-Span. The cheesy Elton John music made everything look so heartfelt, yet I was turned off instantly by Trump's repetition of the word "amazing". Like can't you find other synonyms for that?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:31 am

Bombadil wrote:Of course, it won't be over by Election Day, a majority of Democrats are voting by post whereas a majority of Republicans are voting in person. What this means is that end day November 4th Trump may well be winning before all the postal votes are counted. God knows every effort will be made to nullify those postal votes to the point a Supreme Court decision may be made as to when the cut off date is required.. and alas the Supreme Court may well be stacked.

On votes alone Trump will certainly lose, alas this election is not about votes alone.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:59 am

Blargoblarg wrote:Both are senile and can barely string coherent sentences together.


Oh, are we still supposed to swallow the "Biden is senile because Trump said he is" tripe?
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Postby Juristonia » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:06 am

Vassenor wrote:
Blargoblarg wrote:Both are senile and can barely string coherent sentences together.


Oh, are we still supposed to swallow the "Biden is senile because Trump said he is" tripe?

I'm not onboard the "Biden is senile" train, but you realise people can think this stuff without Trump, right?
Not everyone who thinks a thing that you disagree with does so because of Trump.
People have been saying this about Biden long before Trump became a factor.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:10 am

Juristonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Oh, are we still supposed to swallow the "Biden is senile because Trump said he is" tripe?

I'm not onboard the "Biden is senile" train, but you realise people can think this stuff without Trump, right?
Not everyone who thinks a thing that you disagree with does so because of Trump.
People have been saying this about Biden long before Trump became a factor.


Before Trump was a factor (ie President), Biden was vice-President.

He had a reputation for gaffes. I don't remember anything saying gaffes proved he was dopey.
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Postby Juristonia » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:16 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Juristonia wrote:I'm not onboard the "Biden is senile" train, but you realise people can think this stuff without Trump, right?
Not everyone who thinks a thing that you disagree with does so because of Trump.
People have been saying this about Biden long before Trump became a factor.


Before Trump was a factor (ie President), Biden was vice-President.

He had a reputation for gaffes. I don't remember anything saying gaffes proved he was dopey.

People have been making statements about Bidens mental state for years and years.
Hell, it was an issue when he ran against Obama in 2008.

I don't agree with them, but to pretend this is only a thing because of Trump is just not accurate.
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Postby Blargoblarg » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:21 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Blargoblarg wrote:Re: the poll, I'm not sure anyone will "win" in debates between Biden and Trump. Both are senile and can barely string coherent sentences together. It'll be a national embarrassment watching those two debate each other.


You're not going to watch it anyway, are you?

If a debate is on a night that I'm not working, I might try to suffer through as much of it as I can stand. But I work in the evenings five days a week, so if a debate is on during one of the nights that I have to work, I probably won't see much of it.

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Blargoblarg wrote:Both are senile and can barely string coherent sentences together.


Oh, are we still supposed to swallow the "Biden is senile because Trump said he is" tripe?

No, I think Biden is senile because I've watched several videos of him struggling to talk in coherent sentences. I don't get my opinions from the stupid things Trump says.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:25 am

Juristonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Oh, are we still supposed to swallow the "Biden is senile because Trump said he is" tripe?

I'm not onboard the "Biden is senile" train, but you realise people can think this stuff without Trump, right?
Not everyone who thinks a thing that you disagree with does so because of Trump.
People have been saying this about Biden long before Trump became a factor.

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Postby -Astoria- » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:27 am

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Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Before Trump was a factor (ie President), Biden was vice-President.

He had a reputation for gaffes. I don't remember anything saying gaffes proved he was dopey.

People have been making statements about Bidens mental state for years and years.
Hell, it was an issue when he ran against Obama in 2008.

I don't agree with them, but to pretend this is only a thing because of Trump is just not accurate.

I'm thinking that said "issue" was only reopened & re-galvanised with Trump.

This is not meant to mean that it started with gim, in case you wwre wondering.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:38 am

New poll by the AJC has Trump and Biden tied at 47% each. Ossoff has 45%, Purdue has 47%, with 5% undecided.

Loeffler has 24%, Collins 21%, Warnock 20%, Lieberman 11%, and Tarver 5%. Undecided stand at 17%.

50% disapprove of Trump, while 48% like him, same thing when it comes to the economy just flipped. Basically Georgia is pretty much split down the middle on just about every single issue.

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Of course, it won't be over by Election Day, a majority of Democrats are voting by post whereas a majority of Republicans are voting in person. What this means is that end day November 4th Trump may well be winning before all the postal votes are counted. God knows every effort will be made to nullify those postal votes to the point a Supreme Court decision may be made as to when the cut off date is required.. and alas the Supreme Court may well be stacked.

On votes alone Trump will certainly lose, alas this election is not about votes alone.

Enjoy...

I see no reasons why mail in votes cant be received and counted before election nights, in early voting elections of all kinds, not just for President, for all early voting elections.

Because Trump has ordered the mail to be slowed down. Like how he ordered Covid-19 testing to be slowed down.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:47 am

Picairn wrote:
Blargoblarg wrote:Re: the poll, I'm not sure anyone will "win" in debates between Biden and Trump. Both are senile and can barely string coherent sentences together. It'll be a national embarrassment watching those two debate each other.

Their style of senility is different, imo. Biden stutters and seems to be unable to form words from his thoughts, while Trump has the vocabulary of a ten-year-old.

Just a side story, but I remember last night watching on Twitter about Trump's response to Ginsburg's death on C-Span. The cheesy Elton John music made everything look so heartfelt, yet I was turned off instantly by Trump's repetition of the word "amazing". Like can't you find other synonyms for that?

That's because Biden actually used to have a pretty debilitating stutter.
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Picairn wrote:Their style of senility is different, imo. Biden stutters and seems to be unable to form words from his thoughts, while Trump has the vocabulary of a ten-year-old.

Just a side story, but I remember last night watching on Twitter about Trump's response to Ginsburg's death on C-Span. The cheesy Elton John music made everything look so heartfelt, yet I was turned off instantly by Trump's repetition of the word "amazing". Like can't you find other synonyms for that?

That's because Biden actually used to have a pretty debilitating stutter.

This is true:

As a current presidential candidate and former Vice President of the United States, Joe Biden is required to speak in public at high-profile events more often than most. It’s no secret that Vice President Biden has struggled with a stutter throughout his life, but it makes it all the more impressive and inspiring that he has risen to the second-highest office you can possibly hold in the United States.

Vice President Biden spoke about how difficult it was to overcome his stutter in a 2010 appearance on ABC's The View. In 2011, he wrote an essay for People Magazine on his experience:

“I never had professional therapy, but a couple of nuns taught me to put a cadence to my speaking, and that's why I spent so much time reading poetry – Emerson and Yeats,” Biden wrote. “But even in my small, boys' prep school, I got nailed in Latin class with the nickname Joe Impedimenta. You get so desperate, you're so embarrassed.”

Vice President Biden is an inspiration to those who stutter, proving that struggling with stuttering does not have to hinder your personal success.

At a 25th anniversary gala for The Lab School of Washington, Biden told the audience, “God’s gift to me was my stuttering,” he said. But he also warned, “Don’t let your learning disability define you.”

As a child, Biden worked on relieving his stuttering by reciting poetry in front of the mirror while monitoring his facial reactions. Overcoming the disability and the outcast status it gave him made him that much stronger and more empathetic later in life, he noted.

“Time and time again, my parents taught me that being different is no barrier to success,” Biden said. “And the measure of a man isn’t how often he is knocked down but how quickly he gets up.”

In May 2015, Vice President Biden sent a letter to the Stuttering Foundation of America in celebration of the Foundation’s annual Lotos Club Gala. He offered up some valuable advice to those struggling with stuttering:

“If I could share one piece of advice with all of those struggling with a stutter, it would be this: When you commit yourself to a goal and when you persevere in the face of struggle, you will discover new strengths and skills to help you overcome not only this challenge, but future life challenges as well. I promise you – you have nothing to be ashamed of, and you have every reason to be proud.”

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Postby Picairn » Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:14 am

Gravlen wrote:This is true:

As a current presidential candidate and former Vice President of the United States, Joe Biden is required to speak in public at high-profile events more often than most. It’s no secret that Vice President Biden has struggled with a stutter throughout his life, but it makes it all the more impressive and inspiring that he has risen to the second-highest office you can possibly hold in the United States.

Vice President Biden spoke about how difficult it was to overcome his stutter in a 2010 appearance on ABC's The View. In 2011, he wrote an essay for People Magazine on his experience:

“I never had professional therapy, but a couple of nuns taught me to put a cadence to my speaking, and that's why I spent so much time reading poetry – Emerson and Yeats,” Biden wrote. “But even in my small, boys' prep school, I got nailed in Latin class with the nickname Joe Impedimenta. You get so desperate, you're so embarrassed.”

Vice President Biden is an inspiration to those who stutter, proving that struggling with stuttering does not have to hinder your personal success.

At a 25th anniversary gala for The Lab School of Washington, Biden told the audience, “God’s gift to me was my stuttering,” he said. But he also warned, “Don’t let your learning disability define you.”

As a child, Biden worked on relieving his stuttering by reciting poetry in front of the mirror while monitoring his facial reactions. Overcoming the disability and the outcast status it gave him made him that much stronger and more empathetic later in life, he noted.

“Time and time again, my parents taught me that being different is no barrier to success,” Biden said. “And the measure of a man isn’t how often he is knocked down but how quickly he gets up.”

In May 2015, Vice President Biden sent a letter to the Stuttering Foundation of America in celebration of the Foundation’s annual Lotos Club Gala. He offered up some valuable advice to those struggling with stuttering:

“If I could share one piece of advice with all of those struggling with a stutter, it would be this: When you commit yourself to a goal and when you persevere in the face of struggle, you will discover new strengths and skills to help you overcome not only this challenge, but future life challenges as well. I promise you – you have nothing to be ashamed of, and you have every reason to be proud.”

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Besides, stuttering is not generally considered a symptom of senility.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:22 am

Picairn wrote:
Gravlen wrote:This is true:

As a current presidential candidate and former Vice President of the United States, Joe Biden is required to speak in public at high-profile events more often than most. It’s no secret that Vice President Biden has struggled with a stutter throughout his life, but it makes it all the more impressive and inspiring that he has risen to the second-highest office you can possibly hold in the United States.

Vice President Biden spoke about how difficult it was to overcome his stutter in a 2010 appearance on ABC's The View. In 2011, he wrote an essay for People Magazine on his experience:

“I never had professional therapy, but a couple of nuns taught me to put a cadence to my speaking, and that's why I spent so much time reading poetry – Emerson and Yeats,” Biden wrote. “But even in my small, boys' prep school, I got nailed in Latin class with the nickname Joe Impedimenta. You get so desperate, you're so embarrassed.”

Vice President Biden is an inspiration to those who stutter, proving that struggling with stuttering does not have to hinder your personal success.

At a 25th anniversary gala for The Lab School of Washington, Biden told the audience, “God’s gift to me was my stuttering,” he said. But he also warned, “Don’t let your learning disability define you.”

As a child, Biden worked on relieving his stuttering by reciting poetry in front of the mirror while monitoring his facial reactions. Overcoming the disability and the outcast status it gave him made him that much stronger and more empathetic later in life, he noted.

“Time and time again, my parents taught me that being different is no barrier to success,” Biden said. “And the measure of a man isn’t how often he is knocked down but how quickly he gets up.”

In May 2015, Vice President Biden sent a letter to the Stuttering Foundation of America in celebration of the Foundation’s annual Lotos Club Gala. He offered up some valuable advice to those struggling with stuttering:

“If I could share one piece of advice with all of those struggling with a stutter, it would be this: When you commit yourself to a goal and when you persevere in the face of struggle, you will discover new strengths and skills to help you overcome not only this challenge, but future life challenges as well. I promise you – you have nothing to be ashamed of, and you have every reason to be proud.”

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So did Churchill.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:28 am

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Picairn wrote:Demosthenes also used to be a stutterer, yet he became one of Athens' greatest orators.

So did Churchill.

George VI is another one. Had huge issues with stuttering and public speaking from what i know of him, ended up becoming a pretty good public speaker with help.

Apparently he had no problem speaking when he was angry
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La xinga wrote:New thread smell.

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It's no longer new when you're on the second page; for shame.

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