2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[Kannap]

That's right



Because they believe in violating the rights of other human beings and that's not acceptable, what part of this aren't you understanding?



This is good actually.

So only people you agree with ought to be allowed to run? That's utterly disgraceful and not a democracy in the slightest. That's borderline dictatorial if not outright so.

So you're not understanding any part of the argument then, got it.

I don't care if people agree with me or not when they run for office. If I don't like them, I don't have to vote for them. I firmly believe people who believe in denying human rights to people and are going to use their power to violate human rights or otherwise harm people should not be allowed to hold office.

I don't care how you feel on taxes, the environment, minimum wage, etc. Go hog wild. But if somebody believes, say, all gay people should be executed, then yes they should be barred from holding office.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

So if the status quo allows it, you're cool with it.

And if it doesn't?



Should the people be able to pick from absolutely anyone willing to run? And by "anyone", I mean "literally everyone"? Convicted felon, someone sitting in jail, someone below the age of majority?

Your entire argument seems to be that restricting people from running is against the very concept of democracy, and I want to see if you actually follow that to its conclusion.

No how could someone in jail do the job of mayor or someone whose 14 or any other elected office. There needs to be a certain level of maturity to be able to run.

I don't agree with that. It's incompatible with law for one thing. Serving felons can in most places run, and hold office, and the question of how they do their job can be left for the future ... in the unlikely event it ever happens. The option must remain though, in case a future government arrests a popular leader of the opposite party on a trumped-up charge.

Age of eligibility is something I should know more about. I won't contradict you there, it's probably 18+ in most places.

[Dresderstan]

No because A) you are one person an B) my beliefs are not a threat to democracy, they're are only a threat to your perceived view of keeping the status quo as law and fucking any reasonable reforms. Also, I'm not the one defending Nazis and blatant anti-semites, racists, homophobes and others with undesirable beliefs like you to run for office and do nothing.

Really? Someone who doesn't want certain people to be able to run isn't a threat to democracy?

Its up to the people in a fair democracy to decide who they want the nominee to be and to get the job in the general. Its not the job of the Board of Elections or the party.

When a person or ideology threaten people's livelihoods they are a much bigger threat than someone wanting to bar them or want actual fucking change, which you have done nothing but constantly oppose.

Yes it should.

[Telconi]

No because A) you are one person an B) my beliefs are not a threat to democracy, they're are only a threat to your perceived view of keeping the status quo as law and fucking any reasonable reforms. Also, I'm not the one defending Nazis and blatant anti-semites, racists, homophobes and others with undesirable beliefs like you to run for office and do nothing.

Really? Someone who doesn't want certain people to be able to run isn't a threat to democracy?

Its up to the people in a fair democracy to decide who they want the nominee to be and to get the job in the general. Its not the job of the Board of Elections or the party.

So who determines if someone is eligible to run?

[San Lumen]

So only people you agree with ought to be allowed to run? That's utterly disgraceful and not a democracy in the slightest. That's borderline dictatorial if not outright so.

So you're not understanding any part of the argument then, got it.

I don't care if people agree with me or not when they run for office. If I don't like them, I don't have to vote for them. I firmly believe people who believe in denying human rights to people and are going to use their power to violate human rights or otherwise harm people should not be allowed to hold office.

I don't care how you feel on taxes, the environment, minimum wage, etc. Go hog wild. But if somebody believes, say, all gay people should be executed, then yes they should be barred from holding office.

So dont vote for them. That doesn't mean you can bar them from the ballot.

Lets say we have several counties in rural Missouri where a majority think, LGBT people shouldn't be able marry or adopt, are anti gun control, pro life and very religious. By your standard candidates who represent their values should be able to run and they ought to be forced to vote for someone they don't agree with? Tell me how that is democracy?

[Kowani]

So you're not understanding any part of the argument then, got it.

I don't care if people agree with me or not when they run for office. If I don't like them, I don't have to vote for them. I firmly believe people who believe in denying human rights to people and are going to use their power to violate human rights or otherwise harm people should not be allowed to hold office.

I don't care how you feel on taxes, the environment, minimum wage, etc. Go hog wild. But if somebody believes, say, all gay people should be executed, then yes they should be barred from holding office.

So dont vote for them. That doesn't mean you can bar them from the ballot.

Lets say we have several counties in rural Missouri where a majority think, LGBT people shouldn't be able marry or adopt, are anti gun control, pro life and very religious. By your standard candidates who represent their values should be able to run and they ought to be forced to vote for someone they don't agree with? Tell me how that is democracy?

Democracy is made better when the representatives are not allowed to call for the deaths of the people.

[Kannap]

So you're not understanding any part of the argument then, got it.

I don't care if people agree with me or not when they run for office. If I don't like them, I don't have to vote for them. I firmly believe people who believe in denying human rights to people and are going to use their power to violate human rights or otherwise harm people should not be allowed to hold office.

I don't care how you feel on taxes, the environment, minimum wage, etc. Go hog wild. But if somebody believes, say, all gay people should be executed, then yes they should be barred from holding office.

So dont vote for them. That doesn't mean you can bar them from the ballot.

Lets say we have several counties in rural Missouri where a majority think, LGBT people shouldn't be able marry or adopt, are anti gun control, pro life and very religious. By your standard candidates who represent their values should be able to run and they ought to be forced to vote for someone they don't agree with? Tell me how that is democracy?

So politicians who believe gay people should all be executed are fine then, I think we're done here. Congrats on supporting the continued existence of a shitty country.

[San Lumen]

Really? Someone who doesn't want certain people to be able to run isn't a threat to democracy?

Its up to the people in a fair democracy to decide who they want the nominee to be and to get the job in the general. Its not the job of the Board of Elections or the party.

When a person or ideology threaten people's livelihoods they are a much bigger threat than someone wanting to bar them or want actual fucking change, which you have done nothing but constantly oppose.

Yes it should.

again your being quite broad. its obvious you don't believe in the very concept of democracy.

No it shouldn't be. The Board of elections ought to be apolitical.

The people of Ms. Greene's district liked what she was selling. Why shouldn't they be able to have the person they voted for in office?

[San Lumen]

So dont vote for them. That doesn't mean you can bar them from the ballot.

Lets say we have several counties in rural Missouri where a majority think, LGBT people shouldn't be able marry or adopt, are anti gun control, pro life and very religious. By your standard candidates who represent their values should be able to run and they ought to be forced to vote for someone they don't agree with? Tell me how that is democracy?

So politicians who believe gay people should all be executed are fine then, I think we're done here. Congrats on supporting the continued existence of a shitty country.

No you don't believe in the very concept of democracy. What your proposing is borderline dictatorial and its scary you can't see that.

[Kannap]

So dont vote for them. That doesn't mean you can bar them from the ballot.

Lets say we have several counties in rural Missouri where a majority think, LGBT people shouldn't be able marry or adopt, are anti gun control, pro life and very religious. By your standard candidates who represent their values should be able to run and they ought to be forced to vote for someone they don't agree with? Tell me how that is democracy?

Democracy is made better when the representatives are not allowed to call for the deaths of the people.

Democracy is when groups of "icky people" should be genocided if that's what the people want. Any attempts to stop "icky people" from being genocided is anti-democracy and wrong and you should be ashamed.

[Dresderstan]

When a person or ideology threaten people's livelihoods they are a much bigger threat than someone wanting to bar them or want actual fucking change, which you have done nothing but constantly oppose.

Yes it should.

again your being quite broad. its obvious you don't believe in the very concept of democracy.

No it shouldn't be. The Board of elections ought to be apolitical.

The people of Ms. Greene's district liked what she was selling. Why shouldn't they be able to have the person they voted for in office?

Neither do you Mr. Recalls are terrible.

Human Rights violations are not political.

Because said person is a horrible human being.

[Kannap]

So politicians who believe gay people should all be executed are fine then, I think we're done here. Congrats on supporting the continued existence of a shitty country.

No you don't believe in the very concept of democracy. What your proposing is borderline dictatorial and its scary you can't see that.

No, I understand. Politicians who believe gays/blacks/jews/Hispanic people/Muslims/etc. have no place in this country and should be deported/kill/imprisoned are perfectly fine to serve for office. I was clearly mistaken, carry on.

[Kowani]

Democracy is made better when the representatives are not allowed to call for the deaths of the people.

Democracy is when groups of "icky people" should be genocided if that's what the people want. Any attempts to stop "icky people" from being genocided is anti-democracy and wrong and you should be ashamed.

If that’s democracy, then fuck democracy.

[San Lumen]

Really? Someone who doesn't want certain people to be able to run isn't a threat to democracy?

Its up to the people in a fair democracy to decide who they want the nominee to be and to get the job in the general. Its not the job of the Board of Elections or the party.

So who determines if someone is eligible to run?

Either the Board of Elections and the Secretary of state or a combo of both. It depends on the position.

[Dresderstan]

So politicians who believe gay people should all be executed are fine then, I think we're done here. Congrats on supporting the continued existence of a shitty country.

No you don't believe in the very concept of democracy. What your proposing is borderline dictatorial and its scary you can't see that.

And what you want is for people who want you, me, Kannap and an overwhelming amount of people in America killed by keeping the status quo and let horrible people come to power. Frankly you care less about democracy and the welfare of the people if you can so blindly allow a terrible human being run for office.

[Telconi]

So politicians who believe gay people should all be executed are fine then, I think we're done here. Congrats on supporting the continued existence of a shitty country.

No you don't believe in the very concept of democracy. What your proposing is borderline dictatorial and its scary you can't see that.

Your concept of democracy is horrifying and indefensible to any person with even a half decent moral code.

[San Lumen]

again your being quite broad. its obvious you don't believe in the very concept of democracy.

No it shouldn't be. The Board of elections ought to be apolitical.

The people of Ms. Greene's district liked what she was selling. Why shouldn't they be able to have the person they voted for in office?

Neither do you Mr. Recalls are terrible.

Human Rights violations are not political.

Because said person is a horrible human being.

Up to the people to decide. Not a apolitical body.

And the people of the district agreed with her. Therefore in a fair democracy she gets to serve. She can be primaried in 2022.

No you don't believe in the very concept of democracy. What your proposing is borderline dictatorial and its scary you can't see that.

No, I understand. Politicians who believe gays/blacks/jews/Hispanic people/Muslims/etc. have no place in this country and should be deported/kill/imprisoned are perfectly fine to serve for office. I was clearly mistaken, carry on.

so don;'t vote for those people. Unless they are in prison, a convicted felon (the law varies by state) , don't meet the age or residency requirements or didn't get enough valid signatures they have a legal right to run.

[Telconi]

So who determines if someone is eligible to run?

Either the Board of Elections...

So it is the board of elections' job...

[San Lumen]

No you don't believe in the very concept of democracy. What your proposing is borderline dictatorial and its scary you can't see that.

And what you want is for people who want you, me, Kannap and an overwhelming amount of people in America killed by keeping the status quo and let horrible people come to power. Frankly you care less about democracy and the welfare of the people if you can so blindly allow a terrible human being run for office.

Why was Trump allowed to run? By your standard he should have been barred from the ballot.

[Telconi]

And what you want is for people who want you, me, Kannap and an overwhelming amount of people in America killed by keeping the status quo and let horrible people come to power. Frankly you care less about democracy and the welfare of the people if you can so blindly allow a terrible human being run for office.

Why was Trump allowed to run? By your standard he should have been barred from the ballot.

Yes.

[San Lumen]

Either the Board of Elections...

So it is the board of elections' job...

To determine if someone meets age, residency, and signature requirements. That's it. Someone's beliefs aren';t in the picture for them.

[Telconi]

So it is the board of elections' job...

To determine if someone meets age, residency, and signature requirements. That's it. Someone's beliefs aren';t in the picture for them.

Unless we make a law that says they are.

[San Lumen]

To determine if someone meets age, residency, and signature requirements. That's it. Someone's beliefs aren';t in the picture for them.

Unless we make a law that says they are.

Such a law would not be constitutional. We went over this. How many different ways do I have to explain it?

[Dresderstan]

Neither do you Mr. Recalls are terrible.

Human Rights violations are not political.

Because said person is a horrible human being.

Up to the people to decide. Not a apolitical body.

And the people of the district agreed with her. Therefore in a fair democracy she gets to serve. She can be primaried in 2022.

No, I understand. Politicians who believe gays/blacks/jews/Hispanic people/Muslims/etc. have no place in this country and should be deported/kill/imprisoned are perfectly fine to serve for office. I was clearly mistaken, carry on.

so don;'t vote for those people. Unless they are in prison, a convicted felon (the law varies by state) , don't meet the age or residency requirements or didn't get enough valid signatures they have a legal right to run.

"""Apolitical"""

What a stupid copout answers, all of the canned, hope you enjoy the death of American Democracy as it continues to rot and die.

[Kannap]

Neither do you Mr. Recalls are terrible.

Human Rights violations are not political.

Because said person is a horrible human being.

Up to the people to decide. Not a apolitical body.

And the people of the district agreed with her. Therefore in a fair democracy she gets to serve. She can be primaried in 2022.

No, I understand. Politicians who believe gays/blacks/jews/Hispanic people/Muslims/etc. have no place in this country and should be deported/kill/imprisoned are perfectly fine to serve for office. I was clearly mistaken, carry on.

so don;'t vote for those people. Unless they are in prison, a convicted felon (the law varies by state) , don't meet the age or residency requirements or didn't get enough valid signatures they have a legal right to run.

And they shouldn't, and your idea of democracy is terrifying.